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Show is OK, Jody Foster is good, ice horror is always good, being so explicit with the spirals and stuff is whatever but Season 1 is so great that I'll take it. My main complaint is the opening song which is incredibly god loving awful and out of place. Wtf.
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Bright Bart posted:Billie Eilsh is actually a stellar singer but she writes pop songs for young people (and is a kid herself). I know this which is why it's bizarre that the song is autotune garbage that sounds like discount store O Superman
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Jan 27, 2024 12:28
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Henchman of Santa posted:S1’s theme was the most western poo poo ever which is really silly for a show set in the bayou, but it fit the mood extremely well. S1 should have had a setting-appropriate theme, something like https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRRW3aine6Y
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Jan 28, 2024 14:02
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Fair enough! I just don’t think I know why they were at the hospital to begin with? Danvers got a call saying there was an accident in the search party. Somebody fell or shot someone by accident or something and they were fighting about it. They didn't look at Annie K's phone yet because they only found it in the trailer last episode and Peter only just got it open. Show is pretty lovely but these things are all said straight out!
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Jan 29, 2024 04:45
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This feels like a teen YA show with the music cuts every 2 minutes and melodrama and lack of any real cohesion. It's like the show is afraid to build any tension, it's all blam blam blam. Season 1 is a very high bar but it's incredible at this. Everything is given room to breathe and when stuff happens, stuff happens. The tracking shot gets a lot of rightful praise but the entire sequence leading up to it, Rust going in and Marty being a loving dumbass and watching the boat leave, is just as good.
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Jan 29, 2024 04:51
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Gresh posted:Ok I'm pretty much ready to call this a very bad show. Like what am I even supposed to be invested in at this point? I don't give a poo poo about anyone, all these subplots are so lame and generic and bland and the mystery isn't compelling or interesting at all. I almost fell asleep but the last 5 minutes jolted me back awake but even then the supernatural in a TD show is silly. Yeah this is the biggest problem with the show, it's just boring. It's a mishmash of barely-veiled influences with weak True Detective S1 fanservice thrown in and is just...boring? None of the plots work? I'll keep watching that garbage but expecting it to be totally forgotten by everyone in a few months.
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Jan 29, 2024 14:43
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The central mystery is now who the "her" they woke up is, assuming she did infact do the murders. I hope it's like a hosed up looking ancient wendigo lady thing.
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Jan 29, 2024 18:14
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Wonder if the original show title was just Night Country. Remove the spiral, Tuttles, and Travis and there's no connection at all to S1 so far, so guess we'll see if anything else shows up. Maybe the ex prostitute Marty was cheating with appears and says wow I used to know Travis's son's former partner, Marty Hart, isn't that incredible?
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Jan 29, 2024 18:27
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Hakkesshu posted:I don't think this show is awful, but it really lacks the confidence of the previous seasons, and it's relying on so many tired and lazy writing tropes and it's not like the acting is carrying it like it was in season 3. Yeah lol the writing is generally quite bad, which is fine most of the time, but when it tries to be profound it falls very very flat. Believer vs atheist is so boring and worn out and I hope they throw something novel in there but it's probably way too late for that.
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Jan 30, 2024 12:42
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Deadite posted:Have they talked at all about the victims’ families? I can’t remember if it’s explained but it feels really weird that they have five dead guys and no family members have come to see them or are calling constantly for answers. They mentioned the families are all around the world so it might take a while to notify them all but that's about it. There's this incoherence between the central mystery and the rest of the show. It'll all be related plot-wise, probably, but it feels like 2 or 3 different shows mashed together. There's a lack of thematic consistency which is something every prior season has done a generally good job with, even S2.
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Jan 30, 2024 12:53
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Navarro did it There's my guess idk sure why not
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Jan 30, 2024 15:30
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algebra testes posted:John Hawkes is absolutely killing as just the worst dude ever, by the way. Just total dogshit. Great performance. Yeah he sucks rear end (the character), really great performance. I'm more interested in knowing how his Russian wife saga ends than the murder mystery.
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Jan 30, 2024 23:42
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I would feel a lot more satisfied with the show if just one of the mysteries had been solved by now, halfway through. Or at least progress made. Instead we've got a bunch of stuff that presumably will get some kind of resolution near the end. This is something S1 does exceptionally well, there's a huge climax with a (false) resolution to the murder mystery at the end of the 5th episode and a really tense build up to it in the 4th. The audience is left feeling like the detectives did their job and solved the case, even if we also feel something isn't quite right. Maybe we'll get some kind of climax in episode 4, I hope so, the wheel spinning is frustrating.
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Jan 31, 2024 03:45
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Well, he's right
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Feb 2, 2024 12:36
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Sickening posted:Some of yall are so loving board you are going to hatewatch the entire season. It is OK to watch shows and criticize them for their positive and negative qualities
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Feb 2, 2024 16:40
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weekly font posted:In think the season is extremely mid to ok right now but with the short season a lot of the overall result is going to hinge on how it wraps up. Yes. Part of what made S1 so great is that there is no mystery box, there are no stupid theories encouraged by the showrunners, there is just the story. People tried to come up with some regarding Marty's daughters and father in law and thankfully that was nonsense - can't blame viewers though because we are trained to expect mystery box bullshit in TV now. The resolution of the whodunnit, and the false resolution too, all make great sense and feed back into the major theme of the show. Hopefully the same will happen with this one, I just want a satisfying resolution that doesn't feel out of left field.
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Feb 2, 2024 19:57
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The_Rob posted:Jump scares with ghosts have been the worst part of horror for like the last two decades it feels very lazy in this show. just kinda boring. I have no idea what this show is about.
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Feb 5, 2024 04:51
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Jeep posted:i know this has been a persistent problem but it bears repeating this week: drat the music selection is so bad lmao It's rare that music in dramatic moments can completely ruin a scene but that's what happened this episode. The sister walking off into the ice should have been a somber, sad moment and here's more Billie Elish! The whole show is just afraid to let itself have any space, like it doesn't trust the viewer to know what's going on if they are not constantly bombarded with musical cues or flashbacks. I am looking forward to a dramatic conclusion in ice cave Carcosa. Please give me a wendigo, this will redeem the entire show.
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Feb 5, 2024 15:08
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DangerDongs posted:Anything short of "mass psychological issues caused by released ancient virus" will be lame. Previous mental illness issues exacerbating the virus pan out well. Wendigo
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Feb 5, 2024 18:21
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The music is fine as music, Billie Elish is cool and Mazzie Star is great, but the choices of where they're using the music in the show is awful and the general reliance on having music playing so much at all is very annoying. Silence is ok!!
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Feb 5, 2024 19:37
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I AM GRANDO posted:For being such an ominous and evil presence in the town, the mine hasn’t really done anything especially evil in the series so far, other than poison the water supply. The mine owner/head administrator seems pretty reasonable in all appearances so far. I can’t really blame her for wanting to prosecute someone for petty vandalism or for hating a cop for personal reasons. It is yet another effect of there being way too many characters and too many side plots. It's hard to care about anything when it's given 5 minutes of screen time over 4 episodes.
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Feb 5, 2024 22:33
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Navarro: theres no ice caves around Teacher guy: actually there are Navarro and Danvers: oh OK cool very good writing around the introduction of the ice caves
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Feb 5, 2024 22:59
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wow, Rust Cohle and Harry Potter are cousins?
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Feb 6, 2024 00:49
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Doltos posted:The jump scares in this are identical to Grave Encounters. Open mouth pointing. It's so incredibly lazy. A product of zero ambiance on the mystical side of this season. As a big Grave Encounters fan, yeah absolutely, gonna need to rewarch Grave Encounters again now. Way better movie than this show. Everyone should watch it. It's fun.
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Feb 6, 2024 02:02
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Digital Prophet posted:This really feels like somebody pitched a show called "Night Country," and the HBO execs were like "Okay, we like this, but what if it was True Detective?" This is literally exactly what happened!
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Feb 6, 2024 12:37
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Seldom Posts posted:The recurring bit in this thread where goons can't understand basic plot points or symbolism or retain simple information about the characters, and then use that as a basis to criticize the show is pretty hilarious. naw I'm following along fine its just shallow and lovely. thats OK I will keep watching that garbage.
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Feb 6, 2024 16:10
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Sickening posted:I promise you that you don't have to keep watching the show you hate. You have that power. it's schlocky lovely tv to watch for fun while hanging out with your friends/family/posting pals, not everything has to be high art, people like watching lovely tv!
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Feb 6, 2024 16:55
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Kawabata posted:Yeah but it's been marketed as high art or close as far as tv's concerned, between the True Detective naming, how it's directed and the cast they chose. Jodie Foster as lead doesn't exactly screams "lovely tv I can enjoy with my friends while eating mozzarella sticks and texting". Oh yeah it's very disappointing in that sense, True Detective is a failed franchise doomed chasing a high of a near-perfect first season. I hope this season is what kills the brand once and for all. Spot on with the teen show, the whole thing feels like YA, been saying that from the beginning. It's designed for an audience with no attention span and brains that aren't fully developed. Show would have been better if it was left as Night Country but then no one would be watching it or have heard of it, myself included.
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Feb 6, 2024 18:47
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Cranappleberry posted:the writers of s1 thought the nonsense coming out of Cohle's mouth was cool+real as hell. lol it's just recycled stuff from Thomas Ligotti, the type of writing that appeals very much to teenage to early 20s boys Ligotti is a good fiction writer don't get me wrong
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Feb 6, 2024 20:21
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what does the lovely looking polar bear symbolize
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Feb 6, 2024 20:37
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EmptyVessel posted:Danvers' dead child's toy - which has been obvious for a while imo (they both have that missing eye for starts) the real polar bear symbolizes the stuffed polar bear?
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Feb 7, 2024 00:32
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Dr Who whitening his teeth because he plans to run for mayor was a funny little touch
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Feb 7, 2024 02:08
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Sickening posted:The polar bear isn’t real. Was that not obvious by now? I think it's real, we see Danvers throw it out into the snow! Doltos posted:I was thinking that Danvers sees the same ghosts that Navarro does but she's in denial but it doesn't seem that fleshed out as a concept I agree and it's cool if true, when she's so adamant that Navarro saw something in the room with Wheeler it's because she is the one who saw the dead girl's ghost. Maybe Navarro did too. It's very annoying that no one seems too interested in what the mysterious spiral that keeps showing up actually means. It's old and uhhh that's it?
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Feb 7, 2024 03:26
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Ithle01 posted:It's not going to be supernatural. True Detective likes to hint at little occult stuff, but as a previous poster said the cosmic horror is just in the background and the real danger are regular human beings. Well, maybe not regular normal humans, but just humans. If you want supernatural stuff watch the X-Files (excellent show) or, I guess, Fortitude. I have no idea what Fortitude is about but other posters talked about it and now I want to watch it so I think I might do that. Something about evil supernatural stuff in the 'safest town on Earth' in the arctic circle. Idk this season has already had more explicit supernatural stuff like Rust dad ghost pointing out the location of the bodies. Iirc the past seasons didn't have anything like that, where something supernatural made a direct impact on the real world. Season 1 didn't even really have anything supernatural at all, the only weird stuff was explained straightforwardly as Rust's lingering effects from years of drug abuse.
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Feb 7, 2024 13:44
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Lampsacus posted:It just pisses me off because you have like two decades of internet poisoned american parapolitics to draw from. you have the range and width of conspiracy, occult, psychedelia, epstein, dulles, pynchon, internet, DEATH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, new religious movements, qanon chuds, real life actual darkness, arghh, and they gently caress it up. And presentin.g and centering the indigenous voice is such a good place to take this series and nope. As much as insane paranoiac conspiracies and parapolitics are one of my favorite hobbies, it'd be very hard to turn that into a mainstream TV show. Maybe if you centered it around historical characters it could work, like the Blue Book show being centered around Hynek. Let's do Mad Men but it's Edward Landsdale faking vampies and the plot is about the development of psywar and looted Japanese war gold. There are plenty of colorful characters and stories in the field to pick.
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Feb 7, 2024 14:18
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I AM GRANDO posted:Did people at the time think the killer reveal in season one was pretty stupid? He’s not a really great or interesting element compared to the rest, imo. It's the weakest part of the season for sure. It all makes perfect sense thematically and plot-wise but the shift in the last episode is awkward and the barrage of "a ha" clues with the green paint and old lady whose house was painted is pretty weak.
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Feb 8, 2024 01:34
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TheBizzness posted:People were definitely sour on the finale and reveal. The episode itself is pretty good, the final showdown is great. I think a lot of people wanted some reveal like the preacher or state senator Tuttle was the killer, but how it's presented is way more realistic. The elite perverts that rule the world need bagmen like lawnmower guy to do their dirty work and sweep the floors at Carcosa, they just show up to do the hosed up abuse and rituals. The cover-up was still very real, but by the time the show ends a lot of the old Carcosa pedophile/murderer network had fallen apart.
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Feb 8, 2024 01:40
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I solve this problem by never going to IMDB until after I've seen the whole show
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Feb 8, 2024 13:46
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Justin Credible posted:An excellent example of even years and years later just missing the point. He was in a bad mental place for a long time from the death of his kid. But he wouldn't go through all the effort he did if he really believes all the poo poo he spouted as a defense mechanism for his trauma. One of the great tricks the show does is have Rust appear to be this whacko nihilist who nobody likes, but he's actually a much better person than Marty who is an alcoholic piece of poo poo cheater. The flip of Marty going "this girl is underage what are you doing" to loving her a few years later is so good. He sucks. Rust was a good man who experienced horrible trauma and it took him decades and accomplishing vengeance against real evil and almost dying in the process to start to heal.
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In episode 6, all the True Detectives show up in the ice caves for a huge party.
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