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I'll always be a TD 'all seasons rule especially 1&2' Stan but this feels like a last ever season dash. Until the reboot in twenty years.
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season 2 had an incredible series of posts written about it on reddit, which have unfortunately all been deleted and lost to time. there remains some deep dives on the net: i.e.https://web.archive.org/web/20170321173359/https://zircillius.com/2015/08/23/true-detective-season-2-review-the-dead-puppet-factory/ but yeah, s2 goes a hell of a lot deeper than ppl give it credit for imho. lots of william burroughs in it. (Cities of the Red Night is a fantastic book/trilogy and s2 takes a lot from it). e: here's a good one citing greek tragedies as the template for s2: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/3hbnrn/season_2_the_greek_tragedy_aspect_isnt_talked/?onetap_auto=true&one_tap=true Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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The_Rob posted:I don’t think the supernatural stuff wasn’t real. I think the supernatural was just a guiding force that emanated through the entire series. There’s a dark force that’s always there. It just doesn’t give them answers. The ending also is bittersweet because they didn’t really change anything. The real criminals are still in power and doing what they always did. They just caught some patsy. Panzeh posted:One of the things that season 1 did that was probably correct was make the supernatural stuff not real at the end, and it even basically had Marty break the case in the end, because while Rust could see connections in everything, Marty could see what was right in front of him. It wouldn't shock me if they chose to make the supernatural stuff real in this season, to try to differentiate it. Euphoriaphone posted:[...][*]A perp is captured in the end but the true criminal (the system) lives on[...]
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TheBizzness posted:I don’t know what exactly is being told, but I do think it’s telling that not once has Rachel McAdams been mentioned in Season 2 chat. Lampsacus posted:i like how rachel mcadams vapes and does cool knife attacks. e: oh whoops that was a different thread, sorry. still!
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Jan 18, 2024 04:27
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SimonChris posted:I'll always maintain that Season 2 is a must-watch just for the incredible over-the-top faux noir dialogue. I have never heard anything like it before or since:
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Jan 18, 2024 14:25
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I AM GRANDO posted:Am I misremembering or was there a suggestion at the end that Hart’s daughter was on medication for a mood disorder in 2012, partially explaining her difficulties as a teenager? Maggy: She's fine, at the moment. She sometimes decides she doesn't need her meds. I like her boyfriend. He watches out for her. She had an art show in New Orleans, sold some paintings. Yeah but i think the broader insinuation is that she is one of those zany art girls and expressive and is now free to florish, which meant her personality was always going to clash with traditionalist 'low in openess-to-experience' Marty. Now, if Rust was her father... She'd be dead!!
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Jan 18, 2024 22:08
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Mat Cauthon posted:Maggie mentions it in the last episode of S1 when Hart visits her I think.
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I sometimes wonder why ppl find S2 so abrasive and I think it's because if you think the creators are trying to do S1 again, S2 comes across as in the uncanny valley. Wait, I should rephrase that: S2 is close enough in nature to S1 that if you go into it with expectations that it will be a continuation of S1 AND you think the creators are trying to continue S1, it comes across as something in the 'abrasive valley'.
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i feel like TD has been connected not just to Epstein, but prefiguring Epstein...in a causal sense..
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Jan 19, 2024 22:43
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Gangs of London (season 1 only!!)
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Jan 19, 2024 23:37
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There's going to be a lifetime of youtube essays of how this season went so wrong. Season one and two are so tremendously good, in their own ways. I also can't help but laugh that this season is full of continuity and set dressing errors when it's entire brand is built on being good in the smallest details. Unless all the errors are on purpose... Like it's a big brain play... Like season two is good actually... Arghhh nooooo
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Jan 23, 2024 12:48
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It's like a bad b-movie at this point, isn't it.
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i mean, its all just words. i feel s2 is good b movie. 'its a bad b movie now' is just what i said involuntarily out loud to myself when th episode ended lol
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Jan 29, 2024 07:16
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Loving the discussion and all the posts. This show feels like its running on the fumes of the reputation of a season literally a decade ago. s1: amazing s2: weird (in, imho) an incredible and underrated way s3: blegh. good moments and acting but resolution ruined it. s4: bad
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Jan 30, 2024 23:18
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I AM GRANDO posted:Who’s the kindest true detective? I vote Hays in season 3. Taylor Kitsch didn’t seem too bad either. But yeah, I think Hays and Taylor for sure.
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Jan 31, 2024 10:36
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ruddiger posted:S3 ends on probably the best shot of the entire series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9LWwhtfXpY
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Feb 2, 2024 22:19
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Bright Bart posted:Season 3's mystery is like the opposite of this season's, in so many ways. also some tropes in theorizing are universal. -they are dead -it was all a dream etc its like the background radiation of tv show speculation. every single show, they could be dead. home improvement? they are all actually dead.
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s1=they think they are dead but are alive s2=they think they are alive but are dead (egypt mythos) we can extend this but it doesn't really work lol: s3=they think they are alive and are alive s4=they think they are dead and are dead
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Feb 4, 2024 15:22
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a common conceit is s2, at least attempted, to invert s1 in a few ways. you know, to be all edgy and subvert expectations. s2 has three leads who are 'already dead' but don't realize it, and when they do then the show dramatises it by having them die on screen (all shot). this was written to be the mirror of s1 where the two leads are all like "'hey wow the lights winning" "maybe we had it all and should have appreciated it". but i don't know, this is where you start to go down the rabbit hole of fan theories and such aha. there is also a LOT of egyptian/underworld motifs in s2 that supports this.
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Bright Bart posted:I don't mind the supernatural but don't see the need to introduce it when it's not necessary. In SE02 it's enough that they're "dead men walking".
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Feb 5, 2024 01:06
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Chairman Capone posted:Watching the season made me go back and watch the X-Files episode “Ice” last night, and so there’s at least one top tier episode that this season has provided for me! X-Files episode “Ice The Terror s1 Fortitude s1-s3 e: Monsieur Spade
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Feb 6, 2024 13:06
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A small youtube channel I follow has a good almost 3 hour conversation on s3. It comes from a parapolitical/Ballard/weird paranoid america angle so if that's your thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It_5gel0QZM warning: may contain s2 apologetics
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It just pisses me off because you have like two decades of internet poisoned american parapolitics to draw from. you have the range and width of conspiracy, occult, psychedelia, epstein, dulles, pynchon, internet, DEATH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, new religious movements, qanon chuds, real life actual darkness, arghh, and they gently caress it up. And presenting and centering the indigenous voice is such a good place to take this series and nope. I'm just saying, you take ten insane content poisoned internet people and you could write a pretty compelling series and yet. Argh. Oh well. Hell, make a series that, as a subplot, refutes nick land and th shittt dark enlightenment folks. Oil, Alaska, oil, resource, climate change, conspiracy, protestors of the mine are funded by the mine, etc. it's all right there. Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Feb 7, 2024 |
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Is this one of those confusing seasons where it's seen as bad but maybe good and then later critically reappraised as amazing but then only internet posters care
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Feb 10, 2024 10:25
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mark immune posted:2 > 1 > 4 > 3 Unironically seconded. 1 is wonderful but 2 has some insane things going on in the background that still haven't been fully unpacked. Lots of Ballard and Burroughs influence.
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Feb 16, 2024 02:30
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Grip it and rip it posted:1>>>>3>2>Night Country. the closet we got to this framing device ever being used again was s3 and that was more of a re-re-re-re-linkinpark-flunkmaster flex-remix version of it anyway. honestly if they just stuck to this trope every season this entire show would have at least had an interesting gimmick to keep it at a baseline entertaining. ugahie iowoo watch the terror s1 i don't know
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Feb 19, 2024 06:55
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My theory is that there were some elements of production (HBO side?) that intentionally aided in tanking this season. There had to be some purposefulness behind how bad it was. Maybe to finally retire the True Detective brand. Maybe it had so much status it would always have to be made whilst not deliver views. I don't know. We got s1 and the sountrack to s2 out of it so meh. thank you td for introducing me to lera lynn and black mountain.
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Feb 19, 2024 14:13
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Born too early for indistinguishable ai set dressing Born too late for human made set dressing Born just in time for BALCKMERALL
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Smith Comma John posted:
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The_Rob posted:Ive said it before. What makes their dynamic work is Marty is what happens when you don’t think and are maybe not curious, rust is what happens when all you do is think. 
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Feb 19, 2024 22:19
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1 > 2 > 3 > 4
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Feb 19, 2024 23:30
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Honestly this could have fit better as a Red Mirror miniseries. But I guess it's a bit of a trend now to eternalise acclaimed tv shows with badly written seasons. I have a feeling that was always a trend in content, really.
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Feb 20, 2024 22:48
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Previous seasons have some dumb/interesting pretentious philosophy informing it. S2 Ballard, S3 satanic panic, etc. did this one? Season one had the last messiah or some bullshit.
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Feb 21, 2024 22:33
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I hope its a team up cumulation season lead by Stan.
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yeah the main obstacle the TD brand faces is that everybody has a different idea on what made s1 good. it might be a handful of tropes, or only the chemistry of the duo leads, or maybe how it was always teetering at the edge of cosmic horror but never falling into genre. I, personally, think it was crab man! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5yDzzOEps OR the bridge they travel on first. that bridge is just excellent. but seriously folks, why can't the TD go in MY direction? - parapolitics - pyramids - Parallax View, The - poison - maybe-magic-maybe-mundane trope https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MaybeMagicMaybeMundane - almost but not quite cosmic horror - lush landscapes - ambiguity - memorable well acted bit characters (how good were they in s1 seriously) - ???? - Ballard, Burroughs, DEATH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER Lampsacus fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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The_Rob posted:I think season 2 is a lot more self aware than people give it credit for.
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It's really interesting how the tone shift causes most s1 fans to bounce off it hard. It just immediately tastes different that ppl spit it out. And fair enough too.
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s2 has some fantastic bit part characters too. well acted! -the hippie ram dass knock off dad -the plastic surgeon/psychiatrist -the mayor + his son -nails -stan
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Feb 25, 2024 07:00
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maybe it was the elvis impersonator singing on stage "they say love..."¬¬¬ start of s02e02 or s02e03 my favourite hokey moment in s2 is when paul (the ex-soldier motorbike cop) goes to a sports game or car race or something with his friend. it feels so weird for them to be doing a 'off the clock normal person thing' half way through this batshit insane case.
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“It's like everything is paper mache. Season 2 allowed for some great, and some not so great, deep dive head-canon posting: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/comments/6rg70b/spoilers_crows_and_tracing_the_unseen_web_in_true/ https://biblioklept.org/2015/08/08/a-riff-on-true-detective-season-2s-neon-noir-satire/ etc
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