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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

the smaller ships have little hp and low troops, they are hyper vulnerable the moment they get hit with a boarding action etc and the ai absolutely loves to spam those at anything vulnerable.

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Man, can those Tyranids do a number on you! I'm just lucky I didn't lose more ships!

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Grey Hunter posted:



Man, can those Tyranids do a number on you! I'm just lucky I didn't lose more ships!

Nids hit like absolute trucks and can really mess you up with the death acid fields, I like to jam torpedos into them or bait them with a ship then hop away from the charge if i'm the crons.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

Yeah, I never really developed a foolproof counter strategy for the Tyranids. I think I settled on increasing my use of escort ships for scouting and Nova Cannons to try to nuke their commanders from as far away as possible. If those giant fleets aren't put down quick they do a lot of damage though, so it's always a rush when you manage to break their "morale" early in a fight like that.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Bracing yourself for them and basically unleashing hell right before they get in close works

Chaos wants to use those long range guns and poke at them.

Crons I feel have it fairly easy, let them close in on you and open up your star waves/aoe abilities, then just use your drive teleport to not be where their suicide explosions are

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
Tyranids in campaign are annoying, doubly so for beginners, because most first time players will play their fleets as brawlers because it's the easiest way to play. Tyranids punish brawlers hard.

If you don't know how to play the 'keep away' game, they are a pain in the butt, especially with pure space marines fleets.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Angry Lobster posted:

Tyranids in campaign are annoying, doubly so for beginners, because most first time players will play their fleets as brawlers because it's the easiest way to play. Tyranids punish brawlers hard.

If you don't know how to play the 'keep away' game, they are a pain in the butt, especially with pure space marines fleets.

I assume Ad mech with like their novas, lances, stasis and rad bombs are the best? About to hit nids in my campaign

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

bunnyofdoom posted:

I assume Ad mech with like their novas, lances, stasis and rad bombs are the best? About to hit nids in my campaign

That was basically my go-to, yeah. I think Space Marines had some tricks to make them useful if they're all you happen to have to respond with, but I generally wanted at least one Ad Mech fleet in any Nid engagement. It's been a while since I played though.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

bunnyofdoom posted:

I assume Ad mech with like their novas, lances, stasis and rad bombs are the best? About to hit nids in my campaign

AdMech does fine against Tyranids, just keep away from them while firing at them and using all your damage abilities. Also, standarize all the ships you're going to group together i.e try to use ship classes with the same types of armament and speed. My go-to for AdMech is spamming Dictator class cruisers (along with a couple frigates), they are cheap carriers with two launch bays a nova cannon and moderately cheap. For Imperial Navy, I start the campaign mixing Dictator and Dominator class cruisers, but by the point of the Tyranid invasions, I just spam Mars class battlecruisers, who are basically the Dictator and Dominator mixed up together. Later on, when battles get too big to handle that many carriers, maybe I will mix some grand cruisers to act as line ships.

That's just me though, the chaos campaign taught me how to manage carrier groups and I love them.

Grammarchist posted:

That was basically my go-to, yeah. I think Space Marines had some tricks to make them useful if they're all you happen to have to respond with, but I generally wanted at least one Ad Mech fleet in any Nid engagement. It's been a while since I played though.

Space Marines suffer against Tyranids because boarding actions are weak against them, so you will just have to keep your distance while shooting broadsides to the enemies that jump too close, rinse and repeat. It takes longer and you get more damage in the process than with the other two imperial fleets but it works in a pinch.

Angry Lobster fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Mar 1, 2024

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Nids are really strong up close, and you need to close to board

Punishing them at range or setting up punishments as they close works best. Torpedos down their throat as they try to charge in is satisfying.

Captian Nuke
Aug 5, 2012
Tyranids are a pain in close combat but quite vulnerable to area of effect attacks, particularly nova cannons. Also you want to focus on Psynapse creatures since if you can knock out all of those then the rest of the fleet will go feral and run away with only a little damage.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


So many tyranids, and some brutal losses - I'm getting better at dealing with them, but that is a big wave on the horison....

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/IZzTK90nd6Q

Those big invasion fleets come in, and bio titans are a thing to fear!

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
I'm really looking forward to what comes next :allears:

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/TBiKsyttzoA

Man, I was hoping for better reinforcements than that!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Grey Hunter posted:

https://youtu.be/TBiKsyttzoA

Man, I was hoping for better reinforcements than that!

Did you cut that cutscene off on purpose?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

bunnyofdoom posted:

Did you cut that cutscene off on purpose?

No, is it cut? dammit!

I was in a hurry editing videos

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Let's clear the Eldar out of Medusa - unlocking a lot more problems.
I'm focusing on the economy for a while, so I can get hold of some bigger ships.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Something I found while playing this week are that defense platforms are your best friend when facing Tyranids on the defense.


So, first off, you know that the nids will just go straight at them at the start of the battle, letting you set an ambush easily. 2ndly, they have the escort pulse ability. So, as soon as they come under fire, pop it, reveal the enemy fleet, and drop nova/plasma/torps on em. As well, I found the nids lose turrets really fast so bombers are great, and target the synapse creatures first. That more than anything saved my rear end when I had like 8 invasions all at once.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


I take some more serioous hits here - which is not good as I'm supposed ot be trying to build up my forces!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/-wa7vwbrFdo

Let's take down the first of those chaos Admirals!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


The game, while hammering me at every opportunity, gives me a way to at least start slowing down the other factions!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Grey, for the latest video, that you haven't posted yet, when you gave the Ad Mech guy the anti-asteroid shields? You missed the unlimited Nova Cannon shot skill. I think that one's better.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

bunnyofdoom posted:

Something I found while playing this week are that defense platforms are your best friend when facing Tyranids on the defense.


So, first off, you know that the nids will just go straight at them at the start of the battle, letting you set an ambush easily. 2ndly, they have the escort pulse ability. So, as soon as they come under fire, pop it, reveal the enemy fleet, and drop nova/plasma/torps on em. As well, I found the nids lose turrets really fast so bombers are great, and target the synapse creatures first. That more than anything saved my rear end when I had like 8 invasions all at once.

Tyranids lose "turrets" fast because their number of turrets is directly tied to their current shield value - they don't have permanent ones. This does lead to some weirdness in bomber/torpedo usage compared to everyone else, as you can't just sit at long range stealthed using fighters to neutralize turrets before sending in bombers, because there aren't any to neutralize. On the other hand, effects that instantly drop shields also immediately render them incredibly vulnerable to bombers/torpedoes, but obviously those also generally require you to get moderately close in order to drop them.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/cUMnX-lACw0

Today's video, let's interrupt the Orks

And pick the wrong upgrade.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Let's clear a path to the Anchient Tyranid!

midnight77
Mar 22, 2024
Grey Hunter, when will you complete your magnum opus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGHl752L3Q8

Let's see if I can take out the Tyranid threat (for now!) -Some save scumming will be involved!

midnight77 posted:

Grey Hunter, when will you complete your magnum opus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa

Even I'm not that mad!

The main problem is I don't have the time I used to - even finding time for text based LP's is hard. I'm at that time poor part of life. Video LP's work better as they don't take another hour and a half + to edit and type up.
in short, Adulting Sucks.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Grey Hunter posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGHl752L3Q8

Let's see if I can take out the Tyranid threat (for now!) -Some save scumming will be involved!

Even I'm not that mad!

The main problem is I don't have the time I used to - even finding time for text based LP's is hard. I'm at that time poor part of life. Video LP's work better as they don't take another hour and a half + to edit and type up.
in short, Adulting Sucks.

It's an Easter mircale. I once again have to work midnight to 8am for a two week stretch, starting Easter Sunday. Last time, I made it through by binging your great war LP (speaking of, are you thinking of going back and doing it from the Allies side? Marching Canadians straight into machine guns)

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

bunnyofdoom posted:

It's an Easter mircale. I once again have to work midnight to 8am for a two week stretch, starting Easter Sunday. Last time, I made it through by binging your great war LP (speaking of, are you thinking of going back and doing it from the Allies side? Marching Canadians straight into machine guns)

It's on the list, I just want to get through Easter!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/bGHl752L3Q8

https://youtu.be/qxXj0jGd6mw

Dammit, I missed one. Doing this from my phone ISA pain.

Let's see if we can kill the local hive nexus!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Hey Grey, dunno if you noticed, but some of your fleet commanders have unlocked some upgrade slots, but also, in battle, the Space Marines have a 2nd Lightning strike that IIRC bypasses shields call "For the Chapter" that is an order, and is only limited by the amount of troops on your ships. All lightning strike bonuses also apply to it. So you can literally do lightning strike twice in a row from each space marine ship.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

bunnyofdoom posted:

Hey Grey, dunno if you noticed, but some of your fleet commanders have unlocked some upgrade slots, but also, in battle, the Space Marines have a 2nd Lightning strike that IIRC bypasses shields call "For the Chapter" that is an order, and is only limited by the amount of troops on your ships. All lightning strike bonuses also apply to it. So you can literally do lightning strike twice in a row from each space marine ship.

I miss the for far to long.

I'm currently unable to get to my computer, so I'm running a buffer - then I get one day before I go on holiday to cover 4 days of work.
Honestly, I don't think my wife cares about my youtube career!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



So......I can't relentlessly tease you about missing the obvious for a couple videos?

(I kid I kid. I love your work, and am just trying to help)

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

bunnyofdoom posted:

So......I can't relentlessly tease you about missing the obvious for a couple videos?

(I kid I kid. I love your work, and am just trying to help)

I'm always up for help. Improving ones self is the aim of life.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
https://youtu.be/whzoiDjfvEU

Let's drive on to the next side mission!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Back at my computer for one night only! And we're at the obligatory time loop episode!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



After the 3rd or 4th loops I was watching the blinking warp button, wishing for you to hit it. Now I know for my run

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Right, this is from a few days ago, but it's time to hit the Necrons!

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets


Nova Cannons are just so good. And I teach the orks why.

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