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Game feels and looks good. Reduced load times from t7 are great. That poo poo was so annoying. I'm learning Azucena from scratch (obviously) since I have to wait for my main Eddy to join the cast. She's really fun to use. I need to delve into the specifics of heat more, I can't tell if I like the addition or not yet, it seems too easy to use and to last too long, but it's too early for me to tell I guess.
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brainSnakes posted:I only gave Azucena a quick lookover last night, So I don't fully get her. What's the move against her auto parry sass stance? Just Do A Throw? Mids so while you could do a launch or a strong mid most people using her are gonna try to not be obvious about chilling in that stance (using moves that transition to it and not being in it for a long time) so a classic df1 would be a good option to check it, especially since if you misread her going into stance you're not very negative if you're blocked. Kinda like how people quick jab eddy to float him out of handstand before he can get going. Her D 1+2 throw is absolute cheese while people still have no knowledge on her/vs new players in general. Fun to use. Long range high crush throw. It's called an imanari roll irl and i think ufo throw or something in game. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Two minor gripes but you cant select violet from the lee select screen like before and also the character portraits for everyone are really boring and limited compared to last version. Gonna focus hard on Azu for the moment but messed around with lee for a bit to try some acid rains and when he has heat the acid rain and mist trap dont need perfect timing! Kinda lame imo as watching lee specialists is fun but oh well.
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Jan 27, 2024 00:38
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How much is Jun like tt2 Jun. That's the only place I tried her briefly.
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Jan 27, 2024 02:45
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Starting to flow with Azucena a bit. She's real fun, still getting used to what to do in the stances/stance switching though. I feel like knowing which each character can do in heatmode will be a pretty big early knowledge check its more variable and big than I initially thought.
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Jan 27, 2024 04:00
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Real hurthling! posted:Whats the least bad default way to get up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PDc20Jezg This video is a good watch. There's a lot of options on what to do next after you hit the ground in tekken (which is fun and adds depth!) and it can seem confusing at first but it will quickly become second nature as to what options seem best give the situation.
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Jan 27, 2024 17:28
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Tortolia posted:That is a really cool detail. Since you can always select P1 side some people are pretty scuffed when they are swapped to P2 mid match, especially at lower levels and especially for certain techniques (like wave dashing). If you notice this you can switch sides easily with your basic 2+4 throw. The basic 1+3 throw does the same damage but keeps sides the same.
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I haven't had anyone DC on me mid match. Had some crashes trying to launch matches day 1 but thats gone now. People will occasionally alt f4 or shut off the console if losing a ranked match but it was rare in T7. Though in 7 I only played vs other xbox players. I have crossplay on for now but if I run into a lot of people playing on lovely pcs, alt f4ing a lot, or using macros then I'm turning that poo poo off.
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blastedsalami imo puts out the best tekken guides (he does overviews and in depth), he edits a lot so itll take a bit of time for him to get to all the basics but has character guides are trickling out and very good and digestible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaaDQ-2U4F0 His t7 full roster break down was the definitive one and honestly you could still learn a lot about what t8 characters are about from this one still for legacy characters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ym-u3i6Ke8 Anyways not necessary to watch that since some info will be incorrect but definitely check his channel for the T8 stuff he's doing. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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Thinking about making lee my backup main behind Azu til eddy drops because being able to do mist traps without frame perfect input during heatmode seems pretty sweet E- could just be me imagining things but acid rain outside of heat seems slightly more forgiving now too Seltzer fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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I think the craziest thing so far is that I haven't played a single Law and I've already seen a Kuma. Maybe it's cause I've only been accepting 5 bar matches..... One of the big things I've always liked about tekken is the big roster and generally good balance + the fact that characters require a lot of dedication means you see a ton of different opponent characters each session. Playing SF6 it felt like 90% of my matches were against 4 characters and 50% of that was just against Ken.
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I've seen a lot of victors. People trying whats new I suppose. I do think he's a really lame waste of a newcomer slot. He's like what a kid would scribble in notepad if they were designing what they thought was a cool character. He really looks goofy already then you see his rage art and its like some Bushido Blade poo poo. Just incongruous styling all around.
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Orv posted:So a Tekken character. eh nah. Some of them are poorly designed but playing Bryan vs Law feels like tekken. Geese vs Noctis just feels off. Victor is closer to Noctis than a character that feels like it fits the tone of the game. Lidia last year was a great addition for example.
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Real hurthling! posted:Kinda want more stages Number isn't too bad imo. I was actually gonna post how I like the stages we've got so far much more than T7. A lot of cool designs and theming also, no endless stages which I always hated. Really big stages like Colliseum are more fun designwise and tactically. The good news is new tekken dlc characters often come with stages so expect a lot more down the road.
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Solus posted:Whats the vibe you get when you're facing a mirror matchup I don't like mirrors with any character in any game but with how deep the movelist and knowledge checks are in tekken I usually whip out more deep cut moves and sequences. People who main that character will naturally understand the characters basic frame work more and how to exploit it sinces thats how they lose. I usually play less aggressive than vs other chars and so what they do for awhile too.
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Been maining Azu but have been running through all the characters in Practice to see what they can do in heat and...... Xiaoyu seems really fun this edition. I used her a decent bit in T7 and the moves and setups came back to me pretty quick. She's got some really dope heat options so I think I might have to try her out for a few days. I'm having success with Azu but I feel like her stances are less coherent than others who are tricksters. Eddy flows very well for me and Xiaoyu also has more options and logic in her flow then Azu I think. Oh yeah, Xiaoyu had some kinda tricky combos and they made them easier (along with a lot of combos across the board which I dont like but alas) so she'll be pretty quick to pick up again I think.
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Monicro posted:xiaoyu is hella buffed in this game, her real pain point in 7 was not having good approach options and ff4/f2,1,2 are insane buttons they gave her and she can legitimately bully her way in with them now lol. you can play her as standard or as gimmicky as you want but that + hypnotist being fleshed out into a legitimate pressure stance gives her way better options in a ton of situations she used to struggle in. Cheers. Yeah I hopped online last night after some beers and essentially no t8 ling knowledge and won a bunch with my rusty t7 skills. I used her a bit in TT2 also when that dropped on games with gold on xbox (online is still lively on xbox for that and t6 which rules). Actually technically I used Miharu because she's a funny character and the camera selfie throw is one of the greatest troll moves in tekken history. I really hope someone makes a T8 version of this soon https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ETDnPJuku2ref3PzODMpZ4y7e5_wfILR2aPv83WpSw/edit#gid=369227785 Was EXTREMELY useful for picking up chars quickly. Kinda annoying to rifle through random youtubers videos to find out the best BnBs atm
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shaheen is definitely only still around because tekken likes to have a few simple "easy to learn characters" and to pander to Saudi. Literally everyone I've seen online groaned at his inclusion. Kazumi was a much better "beginner" character that had way better design and enough gameplay stuff going on to be fun to play.
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Autsj posted:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTsgbCJNSTKajMNlJvQleJOl0eTiEcV-PbeU0obDg1lsSqmz0lTtcD2k6NzfTPt7Db9Ua2dz1o_34Sv/pubhtml Thanks for the link but yeah it's still early days on there just by looking at the Azucena guide. The BnB combo they list does 2 less than the one I learned off youtube 4 days ago and has less wall carry though its definitely a lot easier. The one I use for the record is DF2- D2,3,- 4,- 4,1,2 (run to close distance) f2,1,4. The timing is a bit tricky though, I could explain if anyone needs it. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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Monicro posted:
its RDS2 then RDS 1,2 btw lol (rds 1,4 isnt a thing). This was driving me nuts for a few minutes
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Do you have to do the D2,3, *4 super tight or something? This is what it looks like in practice. SA doesnt allow .gifv embeds so you can click on that. Basically after the d2,3 you have to walk forward just a split second in stance before landing the 4 or the whole thing falls apart (so press and hold forward right after d2,3). It's really finicky timing but once you get it the rest of the combo is easy. https://imgur.com/a/JKI3tDJ What I started doing is noticing visually where the opponent was in the air consistently before throwing the 4. You essentially throw the 4 right before theyre about to spike the ground. Diagram below. Press 4 while walking forward at the moment the opponent is near that part of the juggle. Basically right as their head is touching the ground. You want to do it nearly as late as possible without the combo dropping. It's frustrating at first but itll quickly become muscle memory.  e- Also don't throw out launchers on round start lol. That guy wasnt very good so I was trying a bunch of random stuff. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I don't think having one middle eastern character in your roster of 30 is especially pandering. I meant pandering to Saudi not that they were pandering to arabs and or the ME. Saudi has thrown a lot of money at (everything, but also) esports and gaming. Also Zafina is on the roster btw. Sidenote- I think it would've been cool to get a Pakistani character in the game to tip the cap to how great their emergence during t7 was and how big their results have been. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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How's Feng in t8. Dabbled with him a bit in 7 before he got really strong near the end
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I kinda do feel bad for newcomers at the moment lol. I started T7 about a year into the game cycle and in ranked everyone was as crappy as me and same with casual. Casual and ranked are filled with people on 0 points who were high level t7 players. That should adjust itself in due time. I get it though, I didnt touch ranked for a week because I wanted to learn a whole new character and and the new system. What I'm getting at is things will level out soon enough.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:There were definitely cheaters grinding their way up the leaderboard with varying degrees of brazenness in 7, and I hear they have new tech in 8 I read the autoblock client was popular enough to be annoying on PC. I'd that happens I'll turn pff cross play or just manually decline non Xbox and PS matches.
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Nice Van My Man posted:I gave him a shot today. I mained him in Tekken 7 so it felt like I was doing war crimes as I climbed the ranks in T8. He plays about the same as T7, with a few differences: Thanks. Bummer about the headbutt not being plus. It's a rad animation.
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As in best Df1 properties-wise or best df1 chains? I do miss Kazumi's crazy oppressive df1
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Feng feels really good in this edition and I have enough "messing around with Feng in T7" skill to adapt quickly. I'll keep bouncing around characters til eddy but he's suited me the best so far. I was winning at a decent clip with Xiaoyu but a lot of times it felt like a struggle and Azucena is fun and I did well with her too but didn't click completely. I think the only others Ill try before Eddy is in the game are Lee and maybe Bryan.
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Things I'm too lazy to Google right now- did law lose his 14 frame launcher in t8 and did Feng have armor moves from bt and shifting clouds in t7? I think he didn't but I could be wrong
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Really wish you could just filter out wifi users completely. Had too many 5 bar wifi connections that were absolute poo poo. Manually rejecting 3 wifis to get to a wired is just a waste of time.
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faantastic posted:I'm glad to see others are having this same headache, I was assuming it was me being bad (i am) and making excuses but wireless players continue to make fighters not fun for me online. Wifi is always worse but 5 bar wifi in SF6 is much better than tekken and usually ok, that game has better netcode in general. I've been playing a lot of quick play trying out different characters and during quick play I'll usually accept 5 bar wifi but I just played such a poo poo match I decided it's not worth it anymore. It's funny that they let you see the wifi icon but you have to manually filter. E- I'm not even kidding when I say that I occasionally play tekken 6 online and the 5 bar connections there are more consistent. It's probably because everyone left is wired/not having to play against people on badly specced PCs.
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Also why did they take out the opportunity to continue rematching in casual...... Is it just a measure to force people to play the dumb avatar arcade mode? Kinda annoying
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I don't think everyone speaking their own language is some clever trick, I think Namco just sucks at certain things. Irish characters speaking with English accents, iirc marduk used to have american VA etc. Tekken rules but everything namco does aint great. Fillipinos panned josies VA and Ive seen the same for Shaheen and his arabic which apparently sounds super weird. Anyways Feng is badass. Definitely gonna be my main focus til Eddy. Also to any new players, he has a lot of great tools that you want in a character but also some really cool higher level slick stuff. A great character to pick up if you dont want to use a boring char like Shaheen but also don't want to commit to a very unique/weird character. Hes got a great i15 launcher, a great i10 punish, a great in between punish (b 1+2), an incredible list of pokes, a good backswing blow (bf1), Good plus frames (b3, ff3 etc.), and his two main stances (shifting clouds and backturned) both have armor now. His two main combo routes aren't that hard either. He ticks all the boxes of good tekken fundamental tools while also having a deep movelist and a lot of stances to play your own unique and tricky way. When your character is missing a good tekken tool you feel it. For instance Xiaoyus pitiful i10 punishes or with eddy his terrible side step range and very little access to viable + frames. Oh and using Ganryu in t7 was real hard to grasp as he has no i10 jab. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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DeadButDelicious posted:
Most of the tekken lore is really stupid and it was kinda amusing seeing people saying that tekken 8 plot was RUINED from seeing thumbnails on YT. I mean if you like the story thats cool, I just never care about them at all really. I think it took me like 6 months to check out the T7 one. Theyre always all over the place and arent really coherent entry to entry. I think other Harada reasoning at to why every woman in t7 looked 20 and you were unable to tell who was who if using default hair was that "nina was frozen cryogenically" and that Kazumi's representation in the game is from when her and Heihachi were young or something. That being said the jobbed out Eddy hard in his character story in T7 which was messed up.
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Feng's df3 launcher seems way too safe at -7 for something you can turn into 62 dam. Gonna start throwing it out more e-df3 range is super small but a b3 is +8 on block, so b3 into that would at worst trade if the opponent jabs. Gonna try that also. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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unattended spaghetti posted:I didn't realize b3 was plus. That's sick. Glad someone else is playing him. It's cool to exchange ideas. I really love the evasive poking style he's got. It's a natural extension of the kinds of characters I like in 2D games. b3 is a HUGE tool for him this year and it covers a lot of ground too. I played him to an ok level in 7. In 7 I had characters I mained for a big period of time (Kazumi, Negan, Eddy) and then characters I got to know alright (Ling, Steve, Feng, Raven) and then characters I got to know enough to have fun with(Lee, lei, geese, bryan etc). I technically played him in older games a bit, but that was after learning him in 7. Xbox had tt2 and t6 free with gold so I'd use him Eddy and other legacy characters here and there when I wanted to mess around with those games for a t7 break. A general tip I'd give anyone learning a new character, or refreshing a new character is- Pin the full movelist and use each move in a row to see what they have, then do the same but have the CPU set to opponent actions-standing, opponent actions after a hit or block- block all. This will let you see what strings are natural and which can be blocked and how negative they are. Then run through the list one last time with CPU set to block all to see how negative certain moves are and to see where your good plus frame moves are. It sounds like a lot of effort but its really not. Also db3 is great but his d4 is also a good poke when you're in their face and his b4 is a very very good poke, it's a super fast mid that cant be punished. I like to use the d4 a lot then throw out the 1+2 extension when theyve been conditioned to just seeing the d4. B4 is a good round ender poke when theyre super low health and have rage. You can mix that with jabs to get that last bit of HP. Seltzer fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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GigaPeon posted:So a mini News Years resolution for me was "git good at a fighting game". I've always just managed to learn a 3 hit combo for a guy and then spam it to get through whatever story mode the game has, but I'm trying to be better and be semi-decent online. Should I play on Special Mode until I get a hang of the rhythm, or is that just going to teach me bad habits? Been probably going 50/50 being a Special Boy. Do not touch special mode at all. Seriously. It's trash to make people first picking up the game feel cool for doing big moves against the cpu
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Bored Grunt posted:Most played was 7 but casual, played some of the previous games far less. I'd like to put some effort into 8 and see how far I can go but I'm leaning towards picking a character that isn't going to kill my hands after a few hours of play. I liked Reina because I could play very aggressive with her. Have any recommendations on a characters to try that might feel similar but without the wavedash/EWGF? Pretty much the majority of the cast has way less execution requirements than the mishimas. I think only the mishimas and jin have a wavedash this edition (I think they might have gave the bears one)? You should be good with most other characters
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I played tekken 6 (2007) online on xbox last night when T8 was down and the 4 and 5 bar connections there were on average better than the 5 bar wired connections I've been getting to PC players in T8. PC players sort your poo poo out. I might start declining them on sight in ranked.
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Phenotype posted:How do I get a consistent EWGF on a PS5 controller? I spent a little time in practice last night and I only ever do it by accident, and very rarely at that. Couldn't even figure out how to practice getting better at it, cause it just never comes out. Two things. As a pad player, get a fight pad. I have an xb1 Era hori commander and it's way better than any standard pad to play fgs with. Also yeah what the other guy said. Don't expect to consistently pull off the hardest moves and or combos in a decades old fighting game series in 2 weeks.
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