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Fabricated posted:The thing I'm interested to watch is how Windows just collects visual design cruft as it changes. Every actual new dialog uses whatever visual style is the default of the version of the OS it was introduced in, and almost nothing is ever changed so if you just poke around in the OS you can get system dialogs/panels that have the visual stylings of Win2k, XP, Vista, 7, 8, and now 10 in addition to the new rounded/softened 11 look. yeah if you go into the "show more" on a right click it's like, whoops, back to the old days with you! same thing with most settings being some stupid grouping like "apps" or "personalisation" which is inexplicably where you set display stuff, but if you go into diskmgr it's the same as winxp
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also this same "lets change the stuff everybody uses and make the default some idiotic" is infesting the rest of their platforms as well. have the mail/calendar/contacts pane selection in the bottom left in Outlook like it's been forever? sorry, MS have decided these are all "apps" now and so must be on the left hand edge for "consistency of experience" they've grudgingly added a toggle to turn that off but threaten it as "we are going to remove this". Their forums are full of people calling out their dumbass poo poo like this
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Branch Nvidian posted:the taskbar got a “major redesign” and now, without third-party tools, can only be positioned at the bottom of the screen. they also moved all the icons and poo poo to the middle of the task bar, possibly to emulate the macos dock, but you can at least toggle a setting that puts everything back to the left side of the taskbar yeah I was working at a pharmacy and some older lady yells out one time "who's been loving around with the settings", because the task bar was in the middle it was bad when the power button in windows was already in the same place. I prefer it to dynamically shift around
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no echi. every day should be an edge of your seat adventure in computing. who knows what you'll be able to do today, or won't be able to do? it keeps you on your toes. nobody uses software for accomplishing tasks, they use it to experience the joy of navigating a new interface for the fourth time this month. microsoft understands this.
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my favorite aspect of computing is engaging with brands, and my favorite brand of all is the maker of my computer operating system, microsoft
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keep thinking i should check out windows 11 but at this point i think i'll just wait for the movie
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:nah, biggest effort was 11, which is why it is so garbage. people being offended by being able to find stuff that does not look just right are the kind of people who got us entirely pointless "modern" taskbars and context menus. they should've kept the ui entirely win32-based, op
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just found out it's possible to redesign ui elements in a consistent manner without everything looking like they were designed 20 years apart by different teams. truly a novel concept
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Branch Nvidian posted:my favorite aspect of computing is engaging with brands, and my favorite brand of all is the maker of my computer operating system, microsoft when they released xbox it was like wtf microsoft is the dorkiest company ever might as well be IBM releasing a console
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infernal machines posted:no echi. every day should be an edge of your seat adventure in computing. who knows what you'll be able to do today, or won't be able to do? it keeps you on your toes. our data shows that moving the button over here increases user engagement by 3.4%. we're doing it
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they named the best windows "Windows 2000"
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I love increasing web integration into my OS with each update!
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fart simpson posted:our data shows that moving the button over here increases user engagement by 3.4%. we're doing it if they spend more time trying to find the button that’s engagement and it’s good
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3des these nuts posted:they named the best windows "Windows 2000" only 1989 versions to go until we get there!
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3des these nuts posted:they named the best windows "Windows 2000" off by 3
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:also this same "lets change the stuff everybody uses and make the default some idiotic" is infesting the rest of their platforms as well. have the mail/calendar/contacts pane selection in the bottom left in Outlook like it's been forever? sorry, MS have decided these are all "apps" now and so must be on the left hand edge for "consistency of experience" oh thank christ. i had no idea these were called "apps" (???) so i completely missed this in settings shits aggravating. at least our workstations are all still win10
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Raluek posted:off by 3 windows 5000?
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fart simpson posted:windows 5000? no, thats powerman
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Raluek posted:oh thank christ. i had no idea these were called "apps" (???) so i completely missed this in settings yeah I mentioned this bullshit to my wife and she went "wait you can turn that off? Oh my god show me please!" it's ridiculous. you go into like power bi cloud and it's like "hey here's excel on the web for you!" Sitting on the left. nobody has ever wanted to use excel on the web. "hmm yes let me have a version with half the features that shits itself with large datasets because your browser can't handle it's bullshit" <== the words of the utterly deranged.
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Raluek posted:off by 3 nt 3.5 is the best windows i agree
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lmao got a new PC at work that runs win11 it looks so bad already got to go from the newest security settings page to the old win10 one to change a setting the rounded borders look so bad with random rear end apps with old uis, poo poo is super misaligned it looks linux as hell gj Microsoft
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Zlodo posted:it looks linux as hell gj Microsoft it looks like someone decided to try to copy gnome from any time in the last decade
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I’ve fully adapted windows 11, even the dumb taskbar. embrace the bold future
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i too have embraced being less productive next tech refresh im demanding a mac and will finally be windows except for my gamingpc that's always off
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Perplx posted:i too have embraced being less productive you can leave it on and just let steam run with access to ur local network then stream games to your mac. works great for us
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the windows 11 settings menus are a loving travesty
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:windows a loving travesty
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echinopsis posted:tapestry ?? of failure maybe
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echinopsis posted:tapestry ?? good tng episode
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they put a new server in at work and it had w11 of course and immediately I was like ugh “enhance pointer precision” so I hit windows and type mouse and go to the setting but it wasn’t what I was familiar with so I got scared i hit windows again and typed mouse and noticed there was “mouse” and also “mouse settings” (I think), and the mouse settings took me to the legacy mouse settings that lets you change the important things honestly I just suspect most people just don’t have a clue that their mouse settings make it awful to use and just tolerate the garbage that it is if you haven’t fixed it. like u ever watch someone use a pc and the mouse is darting all over the place because the sensitivity is wayayyyyy too high and it looks so awful and hard to use perhaps the way I set it up you have to overall move the mouse a greater distance but it’s also 100% predictable where it’ll end up, unlike with mouse acceleration whwre it’s a gamble
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echinopsis posted:tapestry ?? an utterly classic album
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echinopsis posted:they put a new server in at work and it had w11 of course and immediately I was like ugh “enhance pointer precision” so I hit windows and type mouse and go to the setting but it wasn’t what I was familiar with so I got scared i unchecked "enhance pointer precision" and now the cursor moves super slowly. thanks for nothing.
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you;re welcome just make it move faster with the slider senior sagebrush says you should leave the speed setting in the menu in the middle and adjust dpi to taste, but not everyone has that luxury
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this mf thing only has 1000/1600 DPI naively and you need logitech software to get the full 4000 lol
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had to look it up. i did also find out that there is horizontal sliding
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