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All versions of windows have always been bullshit, then we learn how to work with and around the bullshit and it becomes normalized and we don't care anymore. Its very linuxy in this way A lot of the dumb stuff in win11 echoes similar dumb stuff in win10 and so on (like it's hilariously stupid that the win10 system settings panel functions as the "advanced settings" of win11 in the same way that the win7 settings panel was the "advanced settings" of win10 but its just the same lovely design flaw that already existed before)
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yeah i get it, i think the direction is problematic ethically but i don't think it's going to be much of a problem for a while yet when it comes to actually impacting market share which is struggling for other reasonsZlodo posted:All versions of windows have always been bullshit, then we learn how to work with and around the bullshit and it becomes normalized and we don't care anymore. Its very linuxy in this way this was sort of my pov at the start yeah
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Zlodo posted:All versions of windows have always been bullshit, then we learn how to work with and around the bullshit and it becomes normalized and we don't care anymore. Its very linuxy in this way i kind of disagree in that me, vista, and 8 were dumb and bad in ways funnier and more aspirational. the feeling of it all being a racket rather than a thing you bought (from microsoft, oems have indeed been like that forever) is relatively new. it is also hitting windows relatively late. the entire industry is extremely full of it, to the point where companies annoy users with "also buy this" poo poo even without a cynical profit motive, it's just product managers figuring that's what products do in 2024.
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i do love that windows 11 home is what used to be like 7 home basic and pro is basically just what windows 7 home premium was these days and if you want actual "pro" then congratulations you need an enterprise license
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Branch Nvidian posted:i do love that windows 11 home is what used to be like 7 home basic and pro is basically just what windows 7 home premium was these days and if you want actual "pro" then congratulations you need an enterprise license i don't love that at all
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more like windblows lmao
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:more like windblows lmao "micro$haft windblows  " i post from my work pc running windows 11 enterprise 21h2 that can't receive updates because doing so destroys user accounts in active directory for some reason
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Feb 23, 2024 17:46
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Branch Nvidian posted:"micro$haft windblows uh you misspelled mikkkro$h4ft
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just pretend i emptyquoted everything infernal machines said
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we as an industry is held hostage by microsoft
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whiplash from the first post being entirely true to the second being insane: microsoft is extremely late to fall into this general cesspool, the *industry* has been rotten for decades
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Feb 23, 2024 19:17
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Branch Nvidian posted:i think even microsoft forgets that windows is also a business operating system sometimes when they start trying to shoehorn in new interaction paradigms and whatever for example all our pcs at work are not one person machines windows doesn’t seem to get the idea of a shared pc “set up one drive today”, on the pc on the retail counter that 20yo youths use to sell people anus ointment
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they do understand it, they want you to: a) use separate accounts for every person using the pc b) if it's a shared kiosk, pay for the version that supports kiosk mode and do all the management poo poo necessary to enable and configure that, with all of the IT backend that might entail your employer being like every non-tech focused small business doesn't know or care about any of that poo poo and isn't hiring people who know or care enough to do it properly for them tl;dr: you're holding it wrong
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you can't rename a file by right-clicking it anymore? when did that change
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Pinterest Mom posted:you can't rename a file by right-clicking it anymore? when did that change ya its a windows 11 bs thing. You have to shift + right click to bring up the old style menu and then it's magically there
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AlbertFlasher posted:ya its a windows 11 bs thing. You have to shift + right click to bring up the old style menu and then it's magically there this operating system is a loving mess rofl
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Pinterest Mom posted:you can't rename a file by right-clicking it anymore? when did that change i'm reasonably certain you can, but there are a bunch of file operations you can't do from the "recent files" list because those are just shortcuts
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yeah, the new menu is dumb as poo poo (brought to you by crybabies who go 'having ui from 20 years ago show up hurts my feelings somehow uwu'), but that's not the full menu for when you right-click a file. possibly the favourites should be the full thing, but not quite everything makes sense pretending they are.
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infernal machines posted:your employer being like every non-tech focused small business doesn't know or care about any of that poo poo and isn't hiring people who know or care enough to do it properly for them or they see absolutely zero financial benefit yes it’s annoying that every few days it does that thing at the start when it tries to get you to add a personal account or some poo poo also i didn’t know you could kioskify windows
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Jonny 290 posted:of course you would run ubuntu as a server. Lmao 
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echinopsis posted:or they see absolutely zero financial benefit you can turn that off under settings, system, notifications, "additional settings" the two or three checkboxes under that will disable the persistent nags
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echinopsis posted:for example all our pcs at work are not one person machines when i worked retail from 1997-2005 or so the till computers all used some bluescreen, dos based, keyboard driven software and it was freaking glorious. i shudder to think of having to rely on a janky windows install, retail is already painful enough
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Jonny 290 posted:of course you would run ubuntu as a server. Lmao i have iterated through fedora, red hat, debian, and i think? arch and all of them were painful in various ways that did not spark joy the death knell for my last install was no native support in aws ssm for fedora. with ubuntu (or al2, lol) i can just remote in or manage patches reasonably easily using iam creds ubuntu is kind of the default linux for everything to support and while i have greybeard tendencies i would rather spend my time quoting posts and saying lol than getting furious at config file formats or whatever git apologist fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 23, 2024 |
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