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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Just finished the series and I agree that the pacing was definitely the major shortcoming. I found some of the writing to be pretty corny as well, especially if you have subtitles on and can read what people are saying in the background. I particularly didn't like Barry Keoghan's character dying off screen all for the sake of making the viewer think Buck is also dead. Felt very cheap.

That being said, Callum Turner and Austin Butler were fantastic in their roles. The series did also did a good job making the Nazi regime seem real instead of some distant unknown menace, which is always the impression I get when watching Band of Brothers. The aerial shots of the big formations flying around were always really impressive as well. I'm no CGI expert but I thought it was one of the more realistic looking approaches I've seen on screen. Didn't take me out of it the way most CGI scenes do.

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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McNally posted:

Off screen? We watched his plane hit the ground and then explode. Did you want his head to fly into the camera or something?

Maybe I need to re-watch that episode lol

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Arc Hammer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyL1xfrF9L8

Convinced himself he could land a plane so his barely alive copilot might survive, ends up planting it in the dirt.

Ok so I realize what happened- I had watched the first 2 episodes and most of the 3rd before stopping to wait for my wife to catch up. She decided she didn't care for it after the first episode so I started back on Ep 4, and for some reason I thought he was on the mission where Buck goes down.

Thanks for the video, convinced me I need to rewatch all of Ep 3.

EDIT: I wouldn't call it "a big pile of poo poo", it's still a great show about an under-represented aspect of WW2, but the pacing is really muddled and some of the plotlines begin and end in weird places so the whole thing isn't nearly as cohesive as say Band of Brothers. I remember when the Pacific aired, a lot of the same criticisms were made of it, I'd say MotA has those problems but dialed up a bit. I think the acting is better in this than in the Pacific- just my 2c though.

FLIPADELPHIA fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 15, 2024

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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It really says a lot that the main highlight of this thread is someone doing recaps of Band of Brothers.

(Thanks and I'm looking forward to part 10)

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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I rewatch Band of Brothers every couple of years, and in the final scene when Winters quotes Grandpa about being a hero in the war, I choke up every time. Hell, I choked up a little bit just typing this.

I will always maintain that the interviews with the real soldiers are what really makes Band of Brothers an unrivaled piece of art.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Like the above poster said, no real military knowledge is required to understand the sobel winters dynamic (as depicted in the show). Sobel is a deeply insecure person who compensates by treating everyone below him like garbage. His training methods are not some 3d chess master best practices aimed at creating a crack military unit, they are the flailings of a petty tyrant who wants validation from both his superiors (check out the look on David Schwimmer's face when he's being promoted) and ironically, from the men he constantly shits on.

It's mostly a lucky accident that sobel's methods produce Easy Company. It's not like sobel is in charge of all of their training anyway. There are countless other NCOs and officers that contributed to the training of these men- and it's clear that the competence the easy company soldiers have in the field was not learned from sobel but from either their own experiences, common sense, or from training received from other specialists in the army.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Anyone who wants to blame every German (a natural and understandable sentiment) for the Holocaust should be very careful about where that leads. The US government has and continues to support multiple massive campaigns of violence that could easily be construed as genocide.

There are many famous stories of Jewish and other Nazi victims trying to escape to the US and other Western nations and being turned away. In many ways that's just as monstrous as what the Nazis did.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Why on earth would you guys talk about the Holocaust in a thread about a world war II show?

Absolutely incredible.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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When I was in college, one of the students in one of my history classes asked a veteran from his church to come to class and talk about his experiences in the war. He was a bubble turret gunner in the European theater. He was super soft spoken, tiny guy, and he started off talking about training and some lighter stories about him and his friends. About halfway through he opened up and told us he'd been at the bombing of Dresden. At the time I didn't really know what that meant but I could tell he was having trouble talking about it. He also mentioned that one of the other gunners had been hit by flak and was so pulverized that they had to wash his remains out of the turret with a hose.

I saw some hosed up poo poo during my stint in the army but nothing that disturbing.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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Sledge breaking down on the hunting trip is legit one of the most powerful scenes in any show or film.

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FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

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twistedmentat posted:

At least they never forced Shia LaBouf on us in these. God I hate that guy, just an awful, awful actor. The only movie I ever saw him in that the role suited his rat like energy was in Nymphomaniac.

He's really good in Fury, which happens to be a good but not great WW2 tank film.

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