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coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

It’s a rainy Saturday at the Pomona WinterNationals. and I’m thinking about what kinda straight acceleration I could get from one of those formula E motors if I put it on straight rails. Ideally I’d like to put some noisemaker gimmicks in too.

Other things of notes:
One of the borrowed sportsman cars(car was rented from another racer) went into the sand trap and broke the nets. That’s a first for me. An old timer told me stories about how they had to improvise a net replacement one time because they didn’t have the right tools. TV didn’t catch it out of respect.

The loving sheriff department has a loving motorsports budget deep enough to purchase a cybertruck. And it fuckin stinks.

Footage from NHRA.tv

https://youtu.be/xDuQLtjh80U?si=4dy9c-d4QZsjqWSz

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Road/oval? No noise sucks but whatever. I truly dont understand electric cars in drag racing. I subscribe to NHRA.tv, attend every local drag event I can, just a massive drag fan! and no noise/fake noise just absolutely murders any interest I have in the sport.

also those taxpayers need a new Sheriff if theyre giving him a motorsport budget and he buys a CYBERTRUCK.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Kvlt! posted:

Road/oval? No noise sucks but whatever. I truly dont understand electric cars in drag racing. I subscribe to NHRA.tv, attend every local drag event I can, just a massive drag fan! and no noise/fake noise just absolutely murders any interest I have in the sport.

also those taxpayers need a new Sheriff if theyre giving him a motorsport budget and he buys a CYBERTRUCK.

yeah that's why I was thinking about installing megaphones so the drivers can talk poo poo to each other as they drag down. Maybe get extra points for good zings or convincing engine noises.

and yeah LASD is the largest publicly funded militia in the US. Its pretty crazy the funding they get when the fuckin roads never work.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



coconono posted:

yeah that's why I was thinking about installing megaphones so the drivers can talk poo poo to each other as they drag down. Maybe get extra points for good zings or convincing engine noises.

and yeah LASD is the largest publicly funded militia in the US. Its pretty crazy the funding they get when the fuckin roads never work.

I think you misunderstood; artificial noise is worse or as bad as no noise imo. 99% excitement as a spectator of drag racing is the buildup of the engines idling, the roar when they take off. Making that fake/replacing it with insults sounds less appealing than just the near-silent high pitched electric motors.

It just seems very "fixing a problem that doesnt exist". Dragsters arent road cars, they go (more or less) a 1/4 mile. They dont need to be electrified, especially at the cost of the MAIN APPEAL OF THE SPORT (the roar/fire/excitement of the dragsters taking off). I know electric motors have torque, but I dont really see any upside or reason to introduce electric to drag.

NHRA dragsters arent road cars. They're built for drag racing. Why electrify them and ruin your sport? Taking out an ICE and putting in fake engine noise just seems like a middle finger to fans.

Kvlt! fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 23, 2024

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I respect that opinion but I just wanna go real fuckin fast.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



coconono posted:

I respect that opinion but I just wanna go real fuckin fast.

then go to a track day? Or just an empty drag strip?

I guess if your drag racing against other electric cars I can see the appeal if you literally only care about speed, but I dont think drag racing an electric motor against an ICE is any sort of accomplishment. Its like racing an F1 car against a NASCAR: youre not really winning a race when its against a completely different type of car built for a different purpose.

I guess I just dont get it; if you really just "wanna go fast", why are you putting fake noise into your car? You clearly do care about the other aspects.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

oh no, I just wanna engine noises with my mouth over a megaphone while going fast because that would be funny. Going fast primary, funny secondary.

Other scratchpad idea was doing some kinda motion light show so I could spell out rude words like Bonneville or Pontiac.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Oh ok i gotchu i misunderstood what you were saying

I am curious are you racing your EV against ICE cars or other EVs, (and if the former, what are your thoughts on what I said in my previous post about racing EVs against ICE?)

Id like to be clear Im not trying to be hostile or ask these questions in bad faith, youre just the first person ive encountered who drags EVs so im just curious as how you see the ICE vs. EV issue when it comes to drag racing (im talking competition, not the noise/spectator stuff)

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

oh its totally, cool. its car banter. And I'm waiting for the rain to break here in Pomona anyway.

I like EVs because they have positively absurd acceleration and the mechanics are deceptively unintuitive. Turns out 4 motors each attached to their own wheel doesn't automatically translate into 4x more power.

Right now its a smokey idea, but ideally I'd like to build an EV racing vehicle capable of matching the 300mph nitro classes. I have a test bed system consisting of a derelict lawnmower I'm in the process of wrenching off the engine and a shop vac motor that's going to replace it. This is clearly an extremely serious professional operation.

Professionally, there's been a few EV dragster attempts but the batteries are extremely temperamental. NHRA did a trial run 2023 in Vegas 4wide(it might have been 2022, these tours all blend together) and there was a cold snap that killed the batteries. People run rented Teslas in the street legal EV category. They never turn in real impressive numbers. There's room for a kit or bespoke EV build to really clean up if you can get the economics right.

Personally, I don't think EV dragsters will ever supplant a funny car. A funny car is a very specific spectacle. It slides, flames, explodes and takes a special mentality to master. But I have faith in humanity that EV dragsters will become their own spectacle if we can get sponsorships/grants lined up to support a comfortable living for a racer, 5 crew 2-3 support staffers.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



coconono posted:

oh its totally, cool. its car banter. And I'm waiting for the rain to break here in Pomona anyway.

I like EVs because they have positively absurd acceleration and the mechanics are deceptively unintuitive. Turns out 4 motors each attached to their own wheel doesn't automatically translate into 4x more power.

Right now its a smokey idea, but ideally I'd like to build an EV racing vehicle capable of matching the 300mph nitro classes. I have a test bed system consisting of a derelict lawnmower I'm in the process of wrenching off the engine and a shop vac motor that's going to replace it. This is clearly an extremely serious professional operation.

Professionally, there's been a few EV dragster attempts but the batteries are extremely temperamental. NHRA did a trial run 2023 in Vegas 4wide(it might have been 2022, these tours all blend together) and there was a cold snap that killed the batteries. People run rented Teslas in the street legal EV category. They never turn in real impressive numbers. There's room for a kit or bespoke EV build to really clean up if you can get the economics right.

Personally, I don't think EV dragsters will ever supplant a funny car. A funny car is a very specific spectacle. It slides, flames, explodes and takes a special mentality to master. But I have faith in humanity that EV dragsters will become their own spectacle if we can get sponsorships/grants lined up to support a comfortable living for a racer, 5 crew 2-3 support staffers.

Thanks for the reply! That def makes a lot of sense, made me a little more open to the idea. Especially the last part where it's more "a new class" than it is "replacing old ones". I'd def be interested in some updates on your project as they happen that does sound interesting.

Brass Hand
Feb 27, 2020
Give these people a call https://youtu.be/XQIu5tZ0vbQ?si=zNybC1O63Jz9-Re_

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS


yeah I've watched that a dozen times. Its insane.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
The Nurburgring stuff seems to be extremely normal and going great for NES.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Maybe they should split the circuit in two.

The Ostenshleife and the Westenscleife if you will.

Build a wall at the karussell perhaps.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Meanwhile, Peugeot’s updated 9X8 has broken cover: https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/03/25/2024-spec-peugeot-9x8-revealed.html

Grimson
Dec 16, 2004




boooo

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Misc Racing 2024: Winging It

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



algebra testes posted:

Misc Racing 2024: Winging It
:emptyquote:

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



is there a website that just has a list of all races happening that day?

A lot of times after work i wanna watch a live race of ANY KIND but theres so many across so many different types of racing I often will look for one and not be able to find one, then the next day realize there was one happening I didnt know about.

shadowzero313
Feb 6, 2009

Kvlt! posted:

is there a website that just has a list of all races happening that day?

A lot of times after work i wanna watch a live race of ANY KIND but theres so many across so many different types of racing I often will look for one and not be able to find one, then the next day realize there was one happening I didnt know about.

https://raceday.watch/

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012




that is exactly what i was looking for, thank you so much!!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

we dropped hail on almost 7000 people and called it a WinterNationals. The NHRA fuckin rules.

There was some pretty good racin all told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR98-DJcm3c

and some crazy stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shd4zxzVEJU

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



God that Alexis lady can drive a car with a save like that

Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

coconono posted:

we dropped hail on almost 7000 people and called it a WinterNationals. The NHRA fuckin rules.

There was some pretty good racin all told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR98-DJcm3c

and some crazy stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shd4zxzVEJU
John Force is still racing funny cars? God drat.

I actually caught a bit of Pomona after. I haven't watched drag racing in some time I kinda do miss it.

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty


The rules screwed them over, I'm glad the altered car still looks unique.

raceday is great but it's massively incomplete, for instance the British Truck Racing championship, an essential for everyone is on this weekend and missing.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Wolfy posted:

John Force is still racing funny cars? God drat.

I actually caught a bit of Pomona after. I haven't watched drag racing in some time I kinda do miss it.

If we stopped him, he'd probably go work Lyft and terrorize airports.

Shirley Muldowney still shows up for events too. And still makes grown men cry.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Official video is out, shame about becoming "normal" it was cooler before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FzVk4o6jgk

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
If you're in the mood for some GT3 action; a wet opener to British GT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD0MgncA1CQ

Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

British GT irritated me because they decided it was perfectly sensible to put large spoilers for the race in the thumbnail and title of videos that went up seconds after the live stream ended.

So now to watch it I have to figure out how to get straight to their live tab or there's no point.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Friend to all Camrie Caruso broke her car

https://youtu.be/yX7F9OtRe8o?si=osmke-wakU_rKlT8

It’ll get better

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtsa5oqf5mQ

lagidnam
Nov 8, 2010
First qualifying race for the 24h Nürburgring is live right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMcFPZKctYg

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



lagidnam posted:

First qualifying race for the 24h Nürburgring is live right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMcFPZKctYg
I hope this stream stays online, so I can watch it after participating in Trivia 54.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtsa5oqf5mQ

Goodwood Members meeting is on, best racing IMO

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
Imola WEC weekend time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1DCQPDEI7o

Edit: FP3 starting now

https://www.youtube.com/live/S87eZ1Sc7Tg

SlowBloke fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Apr 20, 2024

Custard Undies
Jan 7, 2006

#essereFerrari

Spa 12hr just started and boy is it wet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LR7R0uq94

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Conor de Phillipi is a menace to society

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
Imola 6h race live is starting, espn or eurosport depending on continent. Peugeot plus wing seems to not be that big of an upgrade to beat the other competitors.

razorscooter
Nov 5, 2008


i appreciate ferrari’s commitment to throwing races for no reason

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
Toyota podium but only because AF corse hosed up, it's a shame, AF rarely messed up this badly on strategy.

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