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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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mawarannahr posted:

Are there any laws saying a judge must be alive to serve?

Yes. The Constitution says that a vacancy occurs upon resignation, impeachment, or death.

Technically, you could get into a gray area where he is missing and has not been declared legally dead.

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Yes. The Constitution says that a vacancy occurs upon resignation, impeachment, or death.

Technically, you could get into a gray area where he is missing and has not been declared legally dead.

Thank you for the explanation 🙏

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Alito has the opportunity to do the funniest thing in history right now by weekend-at-Bernie's-ing the only justice more batshit than he is for 6 months

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIČRE IN ME

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The huge violent crime wave that started in late 2020 and continued through early 2023 seems to be abating.

I believe the conservative "counterpoint" to this is "crimes just aren't being reported anymore that's why the data says crime is down, but it's actually up higher than ever"

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008

this thread maybe doesnt have room for 2 green xbox one avs

Acebuckeye13 posted:

If Thomas dies Biden is ethically and professionally obligated to take the funniest option available to him and nominate Anita Hill.

Uh, you might want to look up Biden's own history on that particular event.

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Yes. The Constitution says that a vacancy occurs upon resignation, impeachment, or death.

Technically, you could get into a gray area where he is missing and has not been declared legally dead.

Well, if a legal declaration of death is all that's needed, Democrats should just pay off a couple of bureaucrats with a nudge and a wink, fast track some appointments, then let the not-actually-dead justices sue to try get their seats back.

Underhanded sure, but way more humane than the other way to get an official death certificate for the conservative justices.

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

koolkal posted:

Uh, you might want to look up Biden's own history on that particular event.

That's exactly why it would be Biden's ethical, professional, and comedic obligation to nominate her.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Jimbozig posted:

Well, if a legal declaration of death is all that's needed, Democrats should just pay off a couple of bureaucrats with a nudge and a wink, fast track some appointments, then let the not-actually-dead justices sue to try get their seats back.

Underhanded sure, but way more humane than the other way to get an official death certificate for the conservative justices.

Depending on the state, it usually takes about 7 years to be declared legally dead.

That is why it would be a huge gray area if a Justice actually did go missing without warning.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Have him erroneously declared dead, then fill the seat before the state-level bureaucracy sorts it out. They don't have the authority to remove his replacement

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

Biden has the senate so if Thomas croaks it would get filled immediately.

Is it possible Sinema tanks it out of spite and just being "independent?"

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Nail Rat posted:

Is it possible Sinema tanks it out of spite and just being "independent?"

Yes, and Manchin has already said he will not vote for any more nominees without 'Bipartisan' support. So if Thomas does croak she's the fulcrum for his replacement.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I'd bet a large sum of money that the entire D caucus would unanimously vote to confirm a liberal replacement for Clarence Thomas.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!
Ketanji Brown Jackson got three Republican votes, I don't think confirming a replacement will be that hard as long as the majority leader is a Democrat.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
The bipartisan replacement would not be the 25-year-old militant socialist everyone ITT wants, but a jurist who is serious about fairly and even-handedly applying the current state of the law would still be a massive improvement over Thomas

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Thomas most likely didn't skip the opening arguments because he is unexpectedly dying, so it is all kind of moot.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Thomas most likely didn't skip the opening arguments because he is unexpectedly dying, so it is all kind of moot.

but there is a chance you're saying?

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Thomas most likely didn't skip the opening arguments because he is unexpectedly dying, so it is all kind of moot.

don't poo poo on my dreams

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Mooseontheloose posted:

but there is a chance you're saying?

It's not impossible, but the court said he would be "participating fully" in the case and he would just not present be today.

Doesn't seem like he got in a car accident this morning and if it was some sort of health diagnosis serious enough to prevent him from working, then he probably wouldn't have cancelled the day before.

Clarence Thomas would also not allow his soul to leave his mortal coil while there is a Democratic President and Senate. Especially when he just needs to wait 9 months for a likely Republican Senate and a 50/50 shot at a Republican President.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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That R&D Tax Credit + Expanded Child Tax credit deal that passed the House earlier this month died in the Senate before it could be applied to this tax season. It still isn't scheduled for a vote because Senate Republicans have threatened to filibuster this version.

Politico reports that Senate Republicans felt that they would have a better chance next year to pass larger business tax cuts without making a $40 billion child tax credit expansion permanent. This saves them $40 billion in their tax cut budget and prevents them from having to take an uncomfortable vote to repeal it.

Publicly, the Senate Republicans are saying that they haven't decided to oppose it yet, but are "concerned" that some provisions might disincentive parents from working. Specifically, the new "look back" provision that allows you to qualify for the tax credit if you had income that qualified either this tax year or the previous year.

Reminder: This compromise version was ~$400 more per year per child. So, apparently, the theory is that some parents might stop working to get an extra $400 to $800 in tax credits at the end of the year.

If some version does pass, they can still make it retroactive and have the IRS automatically recalculate everyone's returns.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1779915876663242951

quote:

Tax Day is here, but the expanded Child Tax Credit never materialized

Earlier this year, the federal Child Tax Credit appeared headed for an expansion that would have helped lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty. But the expanded CTC failed to materialize ahead of the April 15 tax deadline, and its future appears uncertain.

The bill, called the Tax Relief for American Families and Workers Act of 2024, easily passed the House in February with bipartisan support. But it currently remains mired in the Senate, with Senator Josh Hawley, a Republican from Missouri, telling NBC News earlier this month that the bill is "on life support."

Some parents were watching the bill's progress because it had a provision that could have boosted their refund for their 2023 taxes, which are due on April 15 (unless a taxpayer requests an extension.) The expanded CTC would have bumped up the credit's maximum per-child refund amount to $1,800, up from $1,600 in its current form.

Tax experts caution it's not a good idea to delay filing your taxes with the hope that tax legislation could pass, given the unpredictability of the political process. While April 15 is the regular tax-filing deadline, taxpayers can request an extension that gives them until October 15 to send their returns to the IRS.

"Don't wait to file," said Mark Jaeger, vice president of tax operations at TaxAct, told CBS MoneyWatch. "I'm not saying it's impossible — there are people on both sides of the aisle that would like it to happen — but I wouldn't hold my breath."

Child Tax Credit: Could it start in 2024?

The Tax Relief for American Families and Workers Act still hasn't been scheduled for a vote in the Senate, with the New York Times reporting that Republicans have pushed back against some provisions.

One of those issues is a so-called "look back" provision that would allow parents to use income from a prior year if it would help boost the amount they could claim through the CTC. Some Republican lawmakers claim it could weaken parents' incentive to work, Politico reported.

Even so, advocates are still holding out hope that the tax bill could pass. The National Parents Union, an advocacy group for parents, urged lawmakers at an April 10 rally to move the legislation forward.

"Both Republicans and Democrats, doesn't matter what area of the country we're talking about — there is unanimity," said National Parents Union co-founder Keri Rodrigues in a statement. "American families are in support of this Child Tax Credit."

What happens if expanded CTC goes into effect after you file?

If Congress passes the legislation, the IRS says it will automatically make adjustments for parents who already filed and claimed the CTC.

The IRS is urging taxpayers not to wait to file their 2023 tax returns in anticipation that Congress could pass the expanded Child Tax Credit.

What can parents claim for the 2023 Child Tax Credit?

Without the bill's passage, the Child Tax Credit is $2,000 for each eligible child for the 2023 tax year.

There is an income limit for claiming the $2,000 credit, which is $200,000 in adjusted gross income for single filers and $400,000 for joint filers.

A portion of that $2,000 credit is considered fully refundable, which means that you can receive it as a tax refund even if you don't owe any federal taxes. That's noteworthy because some tax credits will at most reduce your tax liability to $0, and any amount of the credit beyond that has no impact on your refund.

But in the case of the CTC, the tax credit is refundable up to $1,600 per child, potentially boosting their tax refund by that amount.

Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 15, 2024

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Thomas most likely didn't skip the opening arguments because he is unexpectedly dying, so it is all kind of moot.

Can't believe he actually took John Oliver's offer.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

Biden has the senate so if Thomas croaks it would get filled immediately. The trouble would be if Biden wins but loses the senate and Thomas croaks after, because I think they’d let the seat be open 2-4 years.

the piece of poo poo from WV says he'll only vote if atleast 1 R supports a the D stuff.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

PhazonLink posted:

the piece of poo poo from WV says he'll only vote if atleast 1 R supports a the D stuff.

For lower courts. This is a different ballgame. You'd have 51 D caucus votes for a Thomas replacement.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's not impossible, but the court said he would be "participating fully" in the case and he would just not present be today.

Doesn't seem like he got in a car accident this morning and if it was some sort of health diagnosis serious enough to prevent him from working, then he probably wouldn't have cancelled the day before.

Clarence Thomas would also not allow his soul to leave his mortal coil while there is a Democratic President and Senate. Especially when he just needs to wait 9 months for a likely Republican Senate and a 50/50 shot at a Republican President.

Scalia swore upon his rotten soul to the do the same, but his unending desire to poison the country was only successful thanks to Satan tapping another of his thralls to assist. The Reaper gonna reap, and not even your million dollar motor coach can out run him. The pillow found Scalia in his rich rear end in a top hat resort on the other side of the continent after all.

Edit: Unfortunately is more likely that Thomas was just on an all nighter with his boy Donny and only one of them decided to skip court.

Gyges fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 15, 2024

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

FizFashizzle posted:

Can't believe he actually took John Oliver's offer.

We need to give John Oliver a honorary tri corner hat.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Elon says they are going to charge to post on Twitter going forward.

This applies to new accounts only. Existing accounts will not be charged to post.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1779930065469383166

48 Hour Boner
May 26, 2005

I think something's wrong with this thing

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Elon says they are going to charge to post on Twitter going forward.

This applies to new accounts only. Existing accounts will not be charged to post.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1779930065469383166

Project Go Away 2: Go More Away

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


:10bux:

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
peh, who needs new users? something awful hasn't had new users in years, and look how vibrant and thriving we are!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Let me know when I can pay to change someone else’s profile pic

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Thomas is just doing a practice run for when they rule that all crime is legal for presidents and ex-presidents and he has to go into hiding from Biden's commando squads

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

peh, who needs new users? something awful hasn't had new users in years, and look how vibrant and thriving we are!

Elon's trying to corner the insane rereg guy market

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

pretense is my co-pilot

Levitate posted:

I believe the conservative "counterpoint" to this is "crimes just aren't being reported anymore that's why the data says crime is down, but it's actually up higher than ever"

its certainly what the Freepers are saying. the notion that homicides were down in NYC was adjudged as conspiracy to conceal the truth by the federal government

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that
The article linked earlier didn't say this, but the CNN article on Thomas taking a mental health day today contains a little nugget of info that I think explains it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/politics/clarence-thomas-supreme-court/index.html

quote:

The first centered on a payment the former mayor of Portage, Indiana, received from a city contractor and whether that payment violated a federal anti-corruption statute.

Would have been absolutely awkward/hilarious as gently caress if he'd been sitting there while the Court heard arguments on whether an official accepting favors was a federal crime.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Sarcastro posted:

Would have been absolutely awkward/hilarious as gently caress if he'd been sitting there while the Court heard arguments on whether an official accepting favors was a federal crime.
That would require him to be capable of feeling shame though

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Elon says they are going to charge to post on Twitter going forward.

This applies to new accounts only. Existing accounts will not be charged to post.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1779930065469383166

Can we pay to prevent Elon from posting?

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Foxfire_ posted:

That would require him to be capable of feeling shame though

I meant for everyone else.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Velocity Raptor posted:

Can we pay to prevent Elon from posting?

If we're lucky he'll follow in the footsteps of the other guy who charged people to post

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I saw on BBC that 60 out of 96 potential jurors immediately got out of it by saying they could not be impartial.

How is it possible for anyone to be impartial when the defendant is a former president and the US has de facto only 2 political parties? I can't see how even the most independent of "independents" could say with a straight face that they can be impartial.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Boris Galerkin posted:

I saw on BBC that 60 out of 96 potential jurors immediately got out of it by saying they could not be impartial.

How is it possible for anyone to be impartial when the defendant is a former president and the US has de facto only 2 political parties? I can't see how even the most independent of "independents" could say with a straight face that they can be impartial.

In theory, impartial doesn’t mean can’t have a strong political opinion. It just means you’ll be fair based and decide based only on the evidence the judge allows to be presented.

And a lot of people’s political beliefs aren’t that strong in the first place, if they even vote at all.

Finally, remember the question they are being asked is “did Trump conspire to falsify documents in order to break the law?” A lot of people haven’t really thought about that or really heard about it, as opposed to “Trump, bad or great?”

Really it comes down to whether someone with opinions can compartmentalize well enough, although you can make a fair argument about how much it’s really possible to set aside bias for or against anyone, let alone a presidential candidate.

E: but, if you say there’s no way anyone’s impartial you also have to accept the same is true of any judge ever who is being asked to rule on a legal issue with any political significance. Some would say they shouldn’t be have that power, but most would say either it’s possible to be unbiased *enough* or set aside your biases or however you want to phrase that. And if it’s not possible for anyone, most people would say fine, but we still want a court system for all the reasons everyone’s got one.

yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 16, 2024

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Boris Galerkin posted:

I saw on BBC that 60 out of 96 potential jurors immediately got out of it by saying they could not be impartial.

How is it possible for anyone to be impartial when the defendant is a former president and the US has de facto only 2 political parties? I can't see how even the most independent of "independents" could say with a straight face that they can be impartial.

I could 100% be impartial. It's not like Donny didn't do it, and I can't vote extra guilty.

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