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Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZaLPVCCokg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEoK-Yo2cig

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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

stev posted:

I pity people who never played the OG game trying to make sense of any of this.

I keep trying to remember, on this topic, that we're still only 2/3s of the way through the trilogy, and it's possible that anything that would be confusing for someone who hasn't played the original is supposed to be.

I dunno though, it's hard to imagine that point of view. I do think things are meant to be unclear though.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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stev posted:

Barret can climb himself up walls with one arm how is he so near the bottom?

I just did the mythril mine on hard and I forgot how silly this was with red right behind him

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

*doki* *doki*
Chapter 13
Wish we got to see more of the individual trials for each character. Kind of just summarized what we already knew, but would have liked another solid minute or two of them each.

Also, man teared a bit @ Young Aerith T_T.
Some help her!
L2, L2,L2,L2,L2

Unhinged Cloud is great, everyone is like "uh oh"
Elena almost got her head chopped off there. Is it too sudden that Elena just now starts questioning orders when she was gung-ho about everything. What has Reno been doing all game

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
Reno was hospitalised from the rear end kicking he got at the top of the sector 7 pillar

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Reno was hospitalised from the rear end kicking he got at the top of the sector 7 pillar

And the mental health crisis he had from actually following the order to kill several million people direct from the Shinra c-squite

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


GateOfD posted:

What has Reno been doing all game

iirc Reno's JP VA died while Rebirth was being developed, so they cut down his screentime rather than immediately recast him.

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

*doki* *doki*
Game done. Clocked in a 101 hours and 30minutes.

Final Chapter and Conclusion stuff.


awww... Aerith dies?! In one world line I guess...if that's what they're going for. I hope she doesn't keep haunting the group in the next game, already tired of Sephiroth doing this all game.

Its kind of annoying how Sephiroth kept trolling the group and Cloud, and he can just slip in anytime into any of these reunion walkers Matrix agent style? A bit much imo. He could have easily killed the entire group whenever since they totally ignore them most of the time with their backs turned.

Wasn't sure what they were doing with the Zack scenes during the middle of the game, but loved the payoff, Zack jumping over to help his buddy Cloud before going back to his worldline.

Final fight went a bit sloppy, I don't think I ever put Cait's stuff back on and didn't intend to use him, so whenever the party split up with him in it, it really messed with my plan.

omg @ the end, this freaking sleeper agent Cloud with the black materia hiding there.

Was the whole fake Tifa thing a red herring for the trailers or just inconclusive, the player never saw if there was a scar or not.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

GateOfD posted:

Game done. Clocked in a 101 hours and 30minutes.

Final Chapter and Conclusion stuff.


awww... Aerith dies?! In one world line I guess...if that's what they're going for. I hope she doesn't keep haunting the group in the next game, already tired of Sephiroth doing this all game.

Its kind of annoying how Sephiroth kept trolling the group and Cloud, and he can just slip in anytime into any of these reunion walkers Matrix agent style? A bit much imo. He could have easily killed the entire group whenever since they totally ignore them most of the time with their backs turned.

Wasn't sure what they were doing with the Zack scenes during the middle of the game, but loved the payoff, Zack jumping over to help his buddy Cloud before going back to his worldline.

Final fight went a bit sloppy, I don't think I ever put Cait's stuff back on and didn't intend to use him, so whenever the party split up with him in it, it really messed with my plan.

omg @ the end, this freaking sleeper agent Cloud with the black materia hiding there.

Was the whole fake Tifa thing a red herring for the trailers or just inconclusive, the player never saw if there was a scar or not.


I have a feeling the whole "Is Tifa Jenova?" thing that Sephiroth is trying to mindfuck Cloud with is gonna come to a head in the Northern Crater, especially if Cloud keeps hallucinating Aerith being alive and Tifa tries to call him out on it.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

nine-gear crow posted:

I have a feeling the whole "Is Tifa Jenova?" thing that Sephiroth is trying to mindfuck Cloud with is gonna come to a head in the Northern Crater, especially if Cloud keeps hallucinating Aerith being alive and Tifa tries to call him out on it.

It already came to a head in chapter 8?

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

GateOfD posted:

Game done. Clocked in a 101 hours and 30minutes.

Final Chapter and Conclusion stuff.


I don't think I ever put Cait's stuff back on and didn't intend to use him


Backline party members gain the full amount of experience, folio SP, weapon levels and materia AP, lots of goons have made the same mistake. Gear up the entire party, people!

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Backline party members gain the full amount of experience, folio SP, weapon levels and materia AP, lots of goons have made the same mistake. Gear up the entire party, people!

Was that the case in Remake? I can't remember. I know in OG inactive members got some xp, but not 100%.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



deoju posted:

Was that the case in Remake? I can't remember. I know in OG inactive members got some xp, but not 100%.

There weren't really any backline party member situations in Remake that I can remember. There were only four party members at all, and usually the story would just dictate that one of them isn't there to participate.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

GateOfD posted:

He could have easily killed the entire group whenever since they totally ignore them most of the time with their backs turned.

Worth noting that Sephiroth doesn't really have any reason to kill the group yet. He needs Cloud to bring him the Black Materia and the rest of the group is escorting Cloud just fine.

GateOfD posted:

Was the whole fake Tifa thing a red herring for the trailers or just inconclusive, the player never saw if there was a scar or not.

No, this wasn't a red herring or anything. It was pretty conclusive--Tifa's not fake. The whole point of that subplot was that Tifa was questioning Cloud's memory and Sephiroth needed to make Cloud distrust Tifa so she didn't make him remember the truth.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
Mushroom picking minigame
Thats it, I am done with sidequests like this until I unlock chapter select.
Aerith you're on your own.

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
NERD RAAAAAAGE
This is like the 4th or 5th time I've seen someone be incredulous in a negative way about the mushroom picking minigame

Can you try to explain to me why it's such a big deal, because I super don't understand? It's a cute little bespoke micro-game that takes up 20-30 seconds each of the three times it pops up in a light-hearted sidequest about helping a bad chef make food

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

I thought that minigame was pretty fun, honestly. Using the haptics it was pretty easy to sus out which ones weren't giving any resistance, then that greatly narrowed down your choices when it came to the other parts

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I barely even registered it as a minigame. It was the equivalent of what you do in any average FF14 sidequest.

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


I do not remember the mushroom picking game, so I can't imagine it was that involved or difficult

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
I remember one of the mushrooms had a very similar further and furthest angle, but the game gives you multiple tries so it wasn't a bother. I felt it was a change of pace. The sidequests in Gogaganga are pretty great - I love the chicken one. The absurdity, and the ending are wonderful

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

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The last one had barely any distinction between the sweet spot and the final state haptics wise and I blew it but I don't think there's like a third magnify gated behind it or anything (do not tell me if there is)

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Oh that? Lol, come on now

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Tbh I think that quest in general is about on par with any random ff16 side quest in the back half of that game, not because of the mushroom picking thing but it's just the most brain dead MMO fetch quest bullshit imaginable that for the most part rebirth manages to avoid but gongaga was such a short part of the game I cant really bring myself to give a poo poo given that it is sandwiched between imo the two best areas

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

I feel like all the minigame complaints I’ve heard are way off compared to when I try them. For instance, Cait Sith box throwing? Did that last night and it wasn’t even an issue.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I'm surprised I see the mushroom picking quest come up so often because to me that was just a pleasant little diversion where I got to hang out with Aerith, Cissnei, and a cool dog friend

UP AND ADAM
Jan 24, 2007
I mean if I didn't get the 100% completion outcome the first try I could see myself complaining about it, but...

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

*doki* *doki*
mushroom was fine, just a bit confusing since didn't realize you had to do it in the reverse give.
but just annoying cause the last one was like oh you messed up one time, its over. I don't count it as a mini-game though..there's no tiered score/harder mode, just a little side-quest.

Overall, there's some mini-games I hate, but since there's so many, and they don't really last that long, if you put them altogether in a pot and blend it, in the end, its all above average. Just have to accept that you will never be good at the piano and boxing game. And the important stuff is always on ones with a low point ceiling so you don't miss out. So its all fair in the end.

For sidequests/overworld, the photos thing was dumb and pointless.

Harrow posted:

Worth noting that Sephiroth doesn't really have any reason to kill the group yet. He needs Cloud to bring him the Black Materia and the rest of the group is escorting Cloud just fine.

No, this wasn't a red herring or anything. It was pretty conclusive--Tifa's not fake. The whole point of that subplot was that Tifa was questioning Cloud's memory and Sephiroth needed to make Cloud distrust Tifa so she didn't make him remember the truth.

Noted.
Classified under: Sephiroth being a troll regarding Tifa.

Right now just a bit lost on trying to coincide the OG Sephiroth and this one.

OG just had the jenova stuff going on, and this one has that, but also doing something with the whole worlds and whispers thing, and what he's going with that. Maybe this one was from another world and slipped in this one like how Zack and Biggs did in their scenes.

Chump Farts
May 9, 2009

There is no Coordinator but Narduzzi, and Shilique is his Prophet.
Will I hate hard mode if the advanced arena fights are annoying? Just a sea of King Zu.

Speaking of, should I do all of the normal mode fights and activities before hard mode, or does it not matter with chapter select?

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Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I’ve been playing SSBU with the kids and re-engaging my late 90s child self by thinking “Sephiroth is so cool!!!”, which got me thinking of these games. I remember the first being released in 2020 but never paid attention.

So there are (currently) two of these games out, and they are basically remaking the entirety of FF7 but splitting them over 3 games? And it’s not exactly old school JRPG combat but now a sort of ARPG hybrid? I have not played a FF game since the Tidus one but I know they have kind of moved out of the pure turn-based style long ago.

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