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used to be king poo poo. now they’re that weak poo poo where weird old english people go to die
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Portugal was never king poo poo
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Feb 8, 2024 19:30
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nerd dictator
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Feb 8, 2024 19:30
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whatever happened to ponytails? the high long ones i liked those
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Feb 8, 2024 19:32
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Brasil é o número um, huehuehuehue
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Feb 8, 2024 19:33
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, The Man or the country
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Feb 8, 2024 19:36
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Toxic Mental posted:, The Man the man the man or the man the band
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Feb 8, 2024 19:37
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i mean look at this. back in the days of discovery portugal hosed
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Saalkin posted:Portugal was never king poo poo
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TrashMammal posted:i mean look at this. back in the days of discovery portugal hosed this sort of thing is frowned upon these days op. in modern times if you want to do this kind of thing you need to do it with a global megacorporation or some kind of corpo-imperialist hegemony instead of a traditional european monarchy.
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Feb 8, 2024 19:44
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TrashMammal posted:i mean look at this. back in the days of discovery portugal hosed  what a bunch of dumasses. Spain, France, and Italy were like right next door! Could have had them instead of malaria.
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Feb 8, 2024 19:46
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just one of the fractious polities that came from the sundering of the crown of asturias. reunite the iberian kingdoms imo, the moorish conquerers are long gone. no need for portugal to exist any longer
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Earwicker posted:this sort of thing is frowned upon these days op. in modern times if you want to do this kind of thing you need to do it with a global megacorporation or some kind of corpo-imperialist hegemony instead of a traditional european monarchy. well obviously. i’m just trying to fill in a gap in my paltry american education. know all about that loving around phase. wanting to learn the specifics of how they found out
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They didn't hold Siam and thus their empire was eventually starved of new armies.
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Feb 8, 2024 19:50
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TrashMammal posted:wanting to learn the specifics of how they found out piece by piece https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_Brazil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambican_War_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_War_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Colonial_War
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Earwicker posted:piece by piece that’s a lot of words homie. did you see the part where i mentioned my paltry american education?
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TrashMammal posted:well obviously. i’m just trying to fill in a gap in my paltry american education. know all about that loving around phase. wanting to learn the specifics of how they found out they were quite powerful during the 16th c but stil lseriously rivaled by continental powers, most importantly spain. they were ultimately marginalized by the habsburgs during the iberian union starting in 1580. the habsburgs used this time to focus castille into modern spain, and also used spanish gold to fund debts incurred by the italian wars, and also to further surpress the low countries. the habsburgs basically totally dominated europe (and much of the world, arguably) at this time. the union ended after a series of complex political factors, stoked by the slow burning dutch conflict (that we call the eighty years war in english), and the imbroglio on the continent called the thirty years war. portugal never really reached its highs it reached in the 16th c after this, as the habsburgs ensured the spanish got a massive headstart. the portugeuse continued to focus, somewhat ineffectually, on india, and on the african/brazillian connection (iirc they did end up with the high score for slaves exported to the colonies w brazil, a loving bonkers number, more than the rest of all of the americas maybe?), + brazillian gold and diamonds. into the 18th c, portugal was basically a pawn between the rising english star, and france and spain. they were a sideshow in the napoleonic wars, despite their colonial weath. the wide ranging knock on effects of liberal republicanism that the french spread during that time basically sealed the deal for brazil who by this time loving hated european portuguese cause they basically looted the gently caress out of the place, even tho the royal court hid from napoleon there for a while lol, and brazil basically said gently caress this and went independent. portugal faded further into obscurity and faced a civil war before even the springtime of nationsm, and was pretty much a fail clown show for the rest of the 19th c . in 1908 the king got clipped by some republicans and a revolution followed. no one really cared aside from the british who at this time were used to a comfy little portugeuse pawn. it was basically completely unstable for 60 years, falling to dictatorship (salazar), and then collapsed into the pathetic little rump state it is today during Decolonization
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Feb 8, 2024 20:10
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big over simplification and i was a little rough on portugal w that post but hell, they deserve it
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Dwigt Rortugal
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TrashMammal posted:i mean look at this. back in the days of discovery portugal hosed Looking at that map, the British Empire took all their poo poo, is what happened.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOBhf8f7cXM
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:they were quite powerful during the 16th c but stil lseriously rivaled by continental powers, most importantly spain. they were ultimately marginalized by the habsburgs during the iberian union starting in 1580. the habsburgs used this time to focus castille into modern spain, and also used spanish gold to fund debts incurred by the italian wars, and also to further surpress the low countries. the habsburgs basically totally dominated europe (and much of the world, arguably) at this time. the union ended after a series of complex political factors, stoked by the slow burning dutch conflict (that we call the eighty years war in english), and the imbroglio on the continent called the thirty years war. portugal never really reached its highs it reached in the 16th c after this, as the habsburgs ensured the spanish got a massive headstart. the portugeuse continued to focus, somewhat ineffectually, on india, and on the african/brazillian connection (iirc they did end up with the high score for slaves exported to the colonies w brazil, a loving bonkers number, more than the rest of all of the americas maybe?), + brazillian gold and diamonds. strongjawed into clownification 
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Feb 8, 2024 20:28
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The X-man cometh posted:Looking at that map, the British Empire took all their poo poo, is what happened. lol what happened to Portugal? England 
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Feb 8, 2024 21:05
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Loling at the time Spain and France jointly invaded Portugal and then Napoleon was like "well I'm bored, guess you're next" and proceeded to invade the poo poo out of his former ally Spain Bet the Portuguese had a hearty laugh at that one
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Feb 8, 2024 23:49
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nukes wouldn’t have touched Portuguese Nagasaki
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They evolved into brazilians, try reading a history book OP
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Feb 8, 2024 23:57
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Devils Affricate posted:They evolved into brazilians, try reading a history book OP too many words
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Feb 8, 2024 23:59
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Devils Affricate posted:They evolved into brazilians, try reading a history book OP ain’t got time for that between all the posting and computer touching
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I went in the 90s, was cool I was as tall as the average guy, I am 5 foot 4 in
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not much, whatever happened to portugal with you?
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Lisbon was almost annihilated in 1755 on All-Saints Day, by an earthquake/fire/tsunami combo so bad that it caused a crisis of faith all across Europe. Gatto Grigio fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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downloaded portugal rtx but it wasn't really anything to write home about imo
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Feb 9, 2024 00:38
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The Angola war is worth reading about, Cuba sent soldiers over to help them win independence in a stunning display of international solidarity that baffled both the US and USSR. Great essay about it in that Jacobin book about Kissinger that came out recently, The Good Die Young.
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Feb 9, 2024 00:40
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Gene Hackman was mistaken, the horses were from Spain, not Portugal.
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portugal ftw.
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Feb 9, 2024 00:44
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They went to Brazil and then prado ... Italians
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Feb 9, 2024 00:47
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They moved to Massachusetts and opened up badass fish markets.
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I mean they made it in Civ 6...
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Their heroin is extremely cheap
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nice beaches
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