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Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Korea Megathread VII

Welcome to the latest Korea Megathread. The last time we had one of these, it was very heavy on information related to the ESL industry with only a handful of tourism tips. But in the eight years (Oh god, I'm getting old) since I made the previous thread the average age of the forums has shot past the typical age range for teachers and the local job scene isn't quite as enticing as it once was. Most of the activity in this thread for the past several years has been for travel advice. So, while I'll still briefly note the ESL options, the focus is going to reverse a bit.

Once again, this OP is heavily indebted to the authors of the earlier iterations of the Korea Megathread, particularly Tirinal, who wrote the OP for the fifth iteration.

KakaoTalk

Kakao is the universally used messaging app in Korea. If you're coming here you’ll want an account if you’re going to talk to… anyone. The app differentiates local and international accounts based on the phone number you register with. If you're just visiting, an international account is fine for chatting with people. But if you'll be here long term, you'll want to create your account with a Korean number. That way you can benefit from features like KakaoPay, which is the common way to split bills among friends and one of the easier ways to pay for things on the Korean internet.

If you browse the open chats in the app, you can find many group rooms with people to hang out with. There are a number of international meetup communities.

Maybe you want to hang out with us? There's a group chat for that too! However, ours isn't listed among the open chats. So, if you want in, just post your Kakao ID in the thread and someone will invite you shortly. Most of us are friends IRL and we have a good track record for being hospitable to visiting goons, so if you’re going to be in the country for any amount of time, feel free to join and ask us any questions. It's a much more reliable way to get rapid answers, as most of us don't check this thread as regularly as we once did.

Useful Apps

Kakaotalk - The big messaging app.
Korailtalk, SRT - The most convenient way to buy intercity train tickets. Korailtalk will show you the routes for both KTX and SRT trains, but only lets you purchase KTX tickets. The SRT app is needed to purchase tickets on their trains. Both apps have English versions that allow the use of international payment methods. The Korean versions of the apps have better quality of life features, but you'll need domestic payment methods to use them.
Naver Maps - Basically Google Maps for Korea. Google maps itself is more useful than it used to be, but due to security laws, Naver is far more up to date an reliable. It has the best public transit info of any app, and is even so detailed as to include hiking trails, complete with real time info on trail conditions.
Kakao Maps - Naver's competitor. People have their preferences between the two, but it mostly comes down to which interface you like more. Kakao has more user submitted locations which sometimes makes it a little more useful in rural areas where companies haven't put themselves on Naver.
Papago - A translation app made by Naver. Generally more natural translations than other apps.
Google Translate - Much more useful than it used to be and better AR translation features than Papago, but somewhat less natural.

The below apps will require domestic payment methods (KakaoPay is generally easiest to set up), so they're only useful for residents:

Coupang - Basically amazon for Korea. Buy anything. Normally cheaper than stores and often will deliver same day.
Coupang Eats - Basically Uber Eats. It's very affordable and there will be a large selection of restaurants in any neighborhood.
CGV - Buy theater tickets and reserve seats at the countries largest theater chain. No English mode but the visual icons will get you through most of it.
티머니GO - Buy intercity/express bus tickets. No English mode. There are a handful of routes (mostly in the southern part of the country) which are still only available through the Bustago site (Only the Korean version allows you to purchase tickets), but vast majority of routes are easily available in this app.

Get a transportation card

T-Money is the name of the main pre-paid transportation card. It's good for all buses and subways in the country. You can also use it to pay for things at convenience stores. If you've been to Japan, it's like the Suica/Passmo/ICOCA card. There are also options to get one month unlimited travel cards for 60,000 krw.

If you are a resident, you can ask your bank to put 교통 service on your credit/debit card and have the fare automatically taken from your bank.

Things to see/do

Seoul

Gyeongbokgung - This is the main palace and most heavily visited historic site in the city by far. Renting hanbok (traditional clothing) from nearby shops and posing for pictures in front of the traditional architecture is a popular activity for locals and tourists alike. It's a more recent reconstruction and most people who live here will recommend some less crowded and more authentic feeling alternatives (look below), but it is a standard part of most tourist visits. It's also walking distance from the following three sites.

Cheonggyecheon - A former roadway that was converted into a walking stream. It has some nice light shows at night as well as various lantern festivals throughout the year.

Bukchon Hanok Village - A neighborhood made up of Hanok houses, the traditional Korean homes. The ones here are in a more modern style than ones you'll find further south (Look at the section for Gyeongju), but it's still a picturesque area with a lot of nice shops and cafes.

Insadong - Just south of Bukchon. This is a tourist street with a lot of souvenir shops and overpriced cafes. Once upon a time this street was lovely, but I feel it's a bit overly tourist driven now. Still, it's a standard part of most tourist itineraries and you can find a lot of souvenirs here. It's also where you can rent hanbok if you're into that.

Changdeokgung - This is the palace I typically recommend to tourists who will only see one palace. It's not as large as Gyeongbokgung, but still has representations of a few different eras of traditional architecture and is less crowded. Also the palace grounds are nicely landscaped and especially pretty in spring. It's just a few subway stops from the above locations.

Changgyeonggung - My personal favorite. The actual palace is smaller than the above two, but has a nice old and weathered appearance. Feels a bit more "authentic" as a result. It's also far less busy in general and has a nice forested area that is lovely in autumn. It's actually part of the same complex as Changdeokgung and is connected by the secret garden (A small garden that only allows a small number of visitors with a guide per-day), but its entrance is on the northeast side by Hyehwa station, so it is a little less convenient to access during a typical tourist route.

Deoksugung - Near city hall. The traditional portion of this palace is much smaller than the others, but it has a mix of more modern buildings including a nice art gallery.

Dongdaemoon History and Culture Park - Built right next to the historic east city gate (the titular Dongdaemun) is a large culture center famous for an architectural style that makes it look like an alien spaceship. The Seoul Fashion Show happens here and the museum section often has notable exhibitions. On the north side of the park is a section of the historic city wall. If you climb its stairs you'll find several nice cafes with panoramic views of the city.

Namsan Tower - An iconic tower on a small mountain in the middle of the city. I don't recommend going up the tower itself, it's not really worth the crowd or price, but the base of the tower has a lovely view of the city, particularly at sunset. Looking north you'll see downtown with Bukhansan National Park in the background.

Seongsu - A neighborhood north of one of the cities biggest parks, this is a trendy spot for cafe hopping. I'm not going to mention specific businesses simply because the current hot spot changes too often. I'd recommend asking in the thread or chat for current recommendations.

Gangnam/Sinsa/Apgujeong - Trendy neighborhoods all within Gangam-gu. Good restaurants and bars in this area. As above, ask for the current recommended businesses.

Hongdae - The famous university and clubbing area. Pretty much everyone reading it will be way to old to go here. Any information I have on this spot will be nearly a decade outdated by now. However, the nearby neighborhood of Mapo has a lot of great cafes and restaurants. Again, you'll want to ask us about the current best spots.

Lotte Tower - The loving huge tower you can see from anywhere. This was tied for second tallest in the world for a while and still only within a dozen meters of the current contenders for that title. The observatory is nice on a clear day and the whole tower lights up with video in the evenings. There's also a big mall and aquarium on its lowest levels.

Yeoido - A riverside park. Probably the best one to visit if you're touring and only hit one. There are cheap bike rentals that you can take along the riverside trails.

Gyeongju

This city is the best destination for those who want to see a bit of Korean history. Most of its sites are within walking distance of the central park and its giant tombs. Among those sites is the nicest hanok villiage in the country IMO. A short bus ride to the east end of the city will take you to Bulguksa.

This small city makes a great day trip. It's also conveniently on the train line between Seoul and Busan, so I recommend visiting it while traveling between the two.

Busan

My favorite of Korea's cities. It has several nice beaches and nice relaxed vibe. A lack of height restrictions on residential construction means you get more towering verticality throughout the city, for fellow fans of the asian megacity vibes. I recommend staying in Seomyeon, both for its convenient access to other parts of the city and its nightlife. Haeundae is the most famous beach. The towering skyscrapers are a cool sight and you can take a scenic walk or oceanside tram from there to Songjeong, a more natural feeling beach. Gwangalli is a nice cafe lined beach famous for the iconic bridge that crosses its bay. The night view when the bridge lights up is quite nice. Huinnyeoul Village (흰여울마음 will be easier to search for) is a cliffside cafe street on an island near the main train station.

Jeju

The most heavily touristed part of the country, this island far to the south of the mainland is a popular beach getaway. If you visit, I strongly recommend renting a car. It's one of the few parts of the country where public transportation is not convenient. Seogwipo is the best place to stay while exploring the island, Heopjae is one of the nicer famous beaches (but gets very crowded in summer). If you want to climb Hallasan, reservations are mandatory.

Hiking

This is my biggest passion and I could easily write far too much about it (In the previous thread a list of mountains made up almost the entirely of tourist recommendations). So I'm going to limit myself to two recommendations:

Bukhansan - This national park is in Seoul and very convenient to access. Baekundae is the main peak and the main route is fairly simple.

Seoraksan - The most famous park in the country. Dramatic spiny ridges, beautiful valleys, and many waterfalls. The Gongryeongneungseon (Dinosaur Ridge) is its iconic trail and one of the more challenging routes in the country. If you want an easier experience, Ulsanbawi also has many dramatic rock formations. If you don't want to climb, the valley starting near Biseondae is mostly level and has several beautiful waterfalls. If you don't even want to walk, there's a cable car going to a smaller peak in the center with a great panoramic view. The whole park is best in autumn.

If you want details on other hikes, just ask me in the thread.

Other sights

Most visitors will have their itineraries filled with the above locations. But if you have more time, there are many smaller cities and villages worth visiting. Just ask in the thread.

Teaching ESL

I'm going to keep this section shorter than in previous threads. There are fewer people coming and they're generally below the age for users of this site.

For public schools, EPIK has taken over pretty much every region of the country. A few other systems still technically exist because a few teachers are still working under the non-EPIK contracts they were hired under. However, whenever one of those teachers leaves, their position seems to be taken over by EPIK. So, they don't exist in any capacity relevant to job-seekers.

EPIK contracts are still much the same as they were over a decade ago, including pay. That could be okay if you're in a smaller city with lower costs, but it doesn't go as far in the major cities with the current cost of living. You can get by, but it's not the great way to save money that it once was.

Most teachers these days opt to work in hagwons, private after-school centers. The quality of this runs a huge range. Most are considered crummy places to work, but a fair few (mostly in wealthier districts) can be quite nice. The former are quite easily to get hired at and find a steady stream of young k-culture enthusiasts to fill their ranks. The latter tend to be rather competitive and you will likely need to be in the country to perform demo lessons and have a few years of ESL experience, if not a teaching license.

There are also still a handful of university jobs, although many universities are shutting down (falling birth rate) and the positions still available have issues with stagnating pay, much like the public schools.

If you teach, you'll most likely be on an E-2 visa. That's the standard education visa that is sponsored by your workplace. They're tied to your contract and are good for one year. They can now easily be renewed online for as long as you have a sponsoring employer though.

What will I need?

For all schools:

-A bachelor's degree from an accredited university. Must be notarized and apostilled. This is an immigration requirement for your E-2 Visa and cannot be circumvented. A letter of intent to graduate signed by the registrar of your school is fine in place of the physical diploma. For baseline jobs, nobody really cares about either your major, your school or your GPA.
-Being a citizen of a country with English as the mother tongue (US, UK, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia. Other English speaking countries are unfortunately not recognized). Note that this is different from actually being a native speaker - you can still qualify even if English is not your first language.
-A passport.
-A criminal background check. Must be federal/national, courtesy of people just getting one done the next state over to avoid child molestation charges. For the US, it means an FBI check. :siren:Start your FBI check early.:siren: It can take up to three months and is the bottleneck for everything.
-The ability to pass a mandatory stock health evaluation. AIDS is not good for your career prospects.
-Various notarized/apostilled nonsense. Sign paperwork recruiters tell you to, etc.
-Bring multiple copies of everything. In the US requesting an additional copy generally adds little if anything to the cost of the requested document. You don’t want to get hosed over on taxes because your school administration lost the only copy of your Cert of Residency. Note that if you are forums poster Don’t Ask Kant you will get hosed over anyway.

For those local, Immigration has a useful helpline that will be able to definitively answer your questions: 1345 on any phone within Korea.

For hagwons:

-Up to individual discretion.

For public schools:

-Two reference letters.
-A brief essay/lesson plan.
-A photo.
-A phone/skype interview.
-The ability to not piss drugs.
-A TEFL certification of 100 hours or more is now required, and an offline component having 20+ hours will give you preferred consideration. The quality of TEFLs vary a lot, but Korea's public schools don't care which one you have. If you think you might teach in other countries afterward, consider one that is accredited by a major university. Other countries may not accept certificates that are accredited by non-university bodies (For good reason. Most of them have little to no regulation).

How do I apply?

For public schools in most parts of the country, you can go through a recruiter that will forward your application to EPIK... or just apply to them directly. There are a handful of regions (mostly in the south) that are still hiring outside of EPIK who will require a recruiter.

For hagwons, you either respond to individual job postings or again go through a recruiter. You can choose which to use by personal preference. Some recruiters goons have used in the past are:

People Recruit
ESL Planet
Korea Connections
Korvia
Footprints Recruiting
Flying Cows

The best hagwon jobs will be individual postings. Dave's ESL Cafe is somehow still the best place to find those.

Research your school and location. If you don't know how, ask in this thread and somebody with a decent grasp of Korean will do it for you. You are putting your life on hold for a year to go meander about a strange new country, and if you do it blind you'll probably end up at Wonderland and everyone here will mock you. Don’t blame us if you find yourself as the one foreign teacher on a tiny island called Ulleungdo, separated from the mainland by a five hour ferry that runs when the weather is good enough, and with only a couple dozen school children to speak English with (This is a real position).

Who, what, and where will I teach?

As public, you'll likely be thrust in front of elementary students. High school and middle schools jobs hardly exist anymore. Hagwons have the chance of adult learners, but those tend to pay less than teaching children.

On the subject of curriculum, it varies broadly by employer. Some will never have you deviate from the course materials, others will give you absolute freedom to do anything you like. If you're at a public you might have a grace period of a week or two just to observe, though its far from a sure thing. At hagwons you tend to hit the ground running. Either way, it's advisable to have some introductory lesson plans prepared in advance.

How much Korean do I need to know?

For the job, none whatever. You will generally have a co-teacher who will translate as needed. It is, however, extremely advisable that you at least learn how to read, write and speak the alphabet (hangul) before coming. It takes an afternoon and will aid you beyond measure. There are innumerable YouTube videos that will teach you how.

For surviving, your mileage may vary. Korea, and Seoul especially, is actually fairly hospitable to people who don't speak the native language. There is a host of services in English and a lot of the natives have an established if tenuous grasp of the language. This holds less true for the countryside, but people are friendly and if you are decent at charades you won’t starve.

Living in Korea

This used to be one of the longest parts of the thread, full of guides for dealing with the hell of Korean internet certifications, doing taxes, and renewing visas. Thankfully, most of that information is no longer necessary.

When you move, your first order of action should be to go to immigration to get your ARC card as soon as possible. You're going to need it to get a decent bank account, phone plan, or really anything else.

Once you have those things, you'll largely be set for the duration of your visa. ID authentication can now be done by sending a text to the phone associated with your ARC. Sponsored visas can be renewed online by uploading PDFs of the relevant documents. Taxes can be done in English on the Hometax site.

It feels irresponsible to leave this section so thin... I still have nearly 20,000 characters available! But really most of the old guide isn't too necessary.

What vital information did I miss? Yell at me about it below and I'll edit it in.

The previous megathread can be found here.

Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Feb 15, 2024

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Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Placeholder in case we need it. (Probably won't)

Suggest better subtitles for this thread! Normally it would be a funny quote from the previous thread, but the previous thread hasn't been very funny lately.

fisting by many
Dec 25, 2009



Getting a bank account as a new resident. Oh boy is it not easy, and even if you are lucky enough to be bestowed with access to the Korean banking system it might be with child-size limits for a few months which sort of makes it impossible to live. You may have to shop around, even between branches of the same bank -- one person will say no, one person will say it's impossible, one person will say my boss won't let me, one person will say it's illegal, and one person will say duh obviously you can open a bank account, you have all your documents why would there be any problem?

(Come to think of it, this process goes for a lot of things)

fisting by many fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 15, 2024

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Is it still that way? It was years ago, but it's been a long time since I've heard of such difficulties with setting up an account (unless you try to do it without an ARC, in which case there are significant limitations).

fisting by many
Dec 25, 2009



Bugblatter posted:

Is it still that way? It was years ago, but it's been a long time since I've heard of such difficulties with setting up an account (unless you try to do it without an ARC, in which case there are significant limitations).

That was almost three years ago for me, so maybe things got better since then. I had my ARC, which took about a month (I think you get some sort of document after completing the ARC application to use before you get the actual card/number, but it turns out that it's pretty useless.) I was not working at a Korean company though, I'd imagine that would have made things easier.

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

fisting by many posted:

That was almost three years ago for me, so maybe things got better since then. I had my ARC, which took about a month (I think you get some sort of document after completing the ARC application to use before you get the actual card/number, but it turns out that it's pretty useless.) I was not working at a Korean company though, I'd imagine that would have made things easier.

Oh yeah, you need proof of income to get a fully functional account which is hard without a local employer. The ARC number they give you at the initial immi visit is supposed to be good for opening bank/phone accounts, but in practice most places will want to see the physical card.

I'll try to flesh that part of the OP out a bit over the next week. Hard to give specifics though, since as you say it can vary by who is operating the desk at any given moment.

Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Feb 15, 2024

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

Ground floor on a dead thread. We're all old now.

Bugblatter posted:

Is it still that way? It was years ago, but it's been a long time since I've heard of such difficulties with setting up an account (unless you try to do it without an ARC, in which case there are significant limitations).


Now, US military in Korea are on a different visa, but more and more of us and their dependents are getting FRC(ARC)s now and judging by the spouse groups, it's still a case of YKMV (Your Korea May Vary) on if you can get an account. To the point of someone going back to the same branch a few hours later after being told no and then they get an account.

nullscan fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 15, 2024

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

one thing i would add to the op: absolutely get a korean sim card with a phone number (at the airport). there's so many little things which are just more convenient if you have a korean phone number, like restaurant reservations.

iirc it's still the most convenient to get it at the airport, or you'll have to go to one of the stores with your id and hope they'll sort it out

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Oh good call. I’ll add that in when I do revisions tomorrow.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

also the DMZ tour (well, panmunjeom) is still a cool thing to do. the tunnels are not. the observatory is cool if the weather is clear.

edit: oh, closed to foreign devils

maybe something about sool?

Chimie
Nov 22, 2013

Bugblatter posted:

Is it still that way? It was years ago, but it's been a long time since I've heard of such difficulties with setting up an account (unless you try to do it without an ARC, in which case there are significant limitations).

Yea $300 limit per day until 3 months of paychecks are deposited.

HolidayDrunk
Dec 31, 2023
Hi there! I re-reg'ed because I remembered the Korean megathreads and cuz I might be going to Korea this summer, so I look forward to reading along and getting various tips form you all. Weird to be back on SA after like 13 years, but here I am.

Chimie
Nov 22, 2013

HolidayDrunk posted:

Hi there! I re-reg'ed because I remembered the Korean megathreads and cuz I might be going to Korea this summer, so I look forward to reading along and getting various tips form you all. Weird to be back on SA after like 13 years, but here I am.

I'd say you're prolly better off joining the kakao group, but I think there's only like 5 of us still in Korea in the group lol.

felgs
Dec 31, 2008

Cats cure all ills. Post more of them.

I'll have you know there's at least 7 of us

nervana
Dec 9, 2010
Friend is asking where to stay for a 3 day trip on his way to Japan. First time there. Hongdae station a good recommendation do you think? He is early 30s. Not sure what exactly he is interested in but its on the airport line and close enough/convenient to most tourist attractions. What do you guys think?

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

For his age, probably not HD. That’s a place for people in their early 20s to party and not particularly close to other sights. For typical sightseeing courses, probably something in the Jongro or Myeongdong area. There will be airport buses that go there directly and they’re more comfortable than the airport line.

nervana
Dec 9, 2010
Is Myeongdong back? I remember after covid it looked pretty dead.

Thanks for the new thread by the way

ps who is Dave from Dave's ESL Cafe btw?

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

It’s back-ish. I recommend it more for its central location and large amount of hotels than for the neighborhood itself though.

No idea about Dave.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.

vanity slug posted:

also the DMZ tour (well, panmunjeom) is still a cool thing to do. the tunnels are not. the observatory is cool if the weather is clear.

edit: oh, closed to foreign devils

Everything closed? Is that new? I was just there in January and did everything other than visit Panmunjeom itself, which has had tours suspended since mid-2023.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

nervana posted:

Friend is asking where to stay for a 3 day trip on his way to Japan. First time there. Hongdae station a good recommendation do you think? He is early 30s. Not sure what exactly he is interested in but its on the airport line and close enough/convenient to most tourist attractions. What do you guys think?

I would also be looking for something in the 3 day range (but really like a fly in Fri, leave Sun or Monday morning at most) thing for me, my wife, and 3 year old son this summer. if there is just one day to see something that a child will probably never remember, what would that be?

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
I would hit up the palaces and Gwanghwamun square. Gyeongbok palace connects to it. And a few blocks away you have Insadong and then Changdeok palace as well. If you can see the secret garden of Changdeok that’s the coolest part of them all, but Gyeongbok is the most representative.

Chimie
Nov 22, 2013

nervana posted:

Is Myeongdong back? I remember after covid it looked pretty dead.

Thanks for the new thread by the way

ps who is Dave from Dave's ESL Cafe btw?

A guy named Dave Sperling. Was a early English teacher around Asia in like 1995. He's from LA

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

I have an implausibly short connection at Incheon in a couple weeks, to catch a flight that only goes once daily. I figure that rather than stress about that I'll just have a plan for what to do for a day in Seoul.

Any suggestions? It'd be Monday evening (after 7, since if it's before I actually made the flight) to whenever I should head back to the airport to catch a 7pm on Tuesday (4ish?). Perfectly happy with just a nice neighborhood to walk around and a good place for lunch that's chill enough to not mind me having a backpack and speaking no Korean beyond pleasantries, but I know zero about Seoul.

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Gyeongbokgung (The main palace), Bukcheon Hanok Village (traditional houses), Insadong (touristy shopping area) and the Cheongyecheon (a nice manmade stream with a walking path) are all popular sites in walking distance from each other. You’ll have no problem getting around with just English in that area. There are a lot of nice cafes and restaurants in the area too.

Would you be staying up all night? The tourist stuff will be closed at night. The party neighborhoods will be active and there are a fair amount of 24 hour cafes though.

The airport is fairly far from Seoul itself. It’s on an island in a separate city. Could take up to 2hrs to get between them depending on where and how you go. I’d recommend grabbing the airport buses headed toward Gwanghwamun.

There’s a few pleasant areas in Incheon too. Not famous tourist sights, but pleasant cafes and closer to the airport.

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

I'd probably get a hotel. The flight itself will be nonstop from the east coast, and I don't tend to sleep super well on planes so it'll be straight to sleep, probably up at some stupid jet-lagged time like 3:30am, and then I'll go get breakfast at one of the 24-hour places. Thanks for the suggestions! And good to know Incheon is a real place and not just an airport. I'll see what the relative hotel prices are and maybe tool around that town for the day to save a a train-hour or two.

The Gay Bean
Apr 19, 2004
Wow, this thread. It must almost be old enough to vote now? Hope you're all doing well.

I spend much of my time in Seoul, and I wouldn't mind being part of a Kakao Talk group if it's still around/somewhat active. Is there someone I could PM my ID to? I'd prefer not to post it publicly since it's easily identifiable as me irl.

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

I think either nullscan or chimie? Nullscan made the chat, but I haven't seen him post here in a while. Chimie I think is likely to see a DM.

I'd say message me, but I don't hang out in group chats so much these days.

Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Mar 18, 2024

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

Literally lucky post #7 on this page my dude!

Bugblatter
Aug 4, 2003

Whoops!

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.
Can someone help check a translation? I'm trying to translate "You don't follow instructions," as in something a teacher might say to a student.

Google is showing:

당신은 지시를 따르지 않습니다
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Bing:

지시를 따르지 않는 경우

DeepL:

지침을 따르지 않는 경우


Also, I'd like to format it as:

You don't
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instructions


Lastly, I'd like to put it in quotes:

"You don't
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Are quotes handled the same way in Korean as English?

Thanks for any help with this, it's appreciated.

***Just noticed the Korean language sub-forum, I'll try there too though there hasn't been any recent posting.

socketwrencher fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 26, 2024

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider
I'm going to swing by Seoul for a couple days in October. Bookmarking this thread.

Any recommendations for dumplings?

superm0nk
Jun 26, 2003

http://www.mdkj.co.kr/en/

Myeongdong Kyoja is a touristy but good spot. Get some of the kalguksu and make sure to try the kimchi.

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider

superm0nk posted:

http://www.mdkj.co.kr/en/

Myeongdong Kyoja is a touristy but good spot. Get some of the kalguksu and make sure to try the kimchi.

Thank you! It's on my list.

I'll swing by in October and yell in the kakao chat until someone goes to the drag show with my wife and me.

Mamkute
Sep 2, 2018
Hello, my family and I are going to South Korea for a few days in late May, than to Japan, would like specific recommendations for things to see and do in Seoul. My parents are both seniors, so nothing too physically strenuous.

superm0nk
Jun 26, 2003

The main sites are all covered in the first post. Without more info it's difficult to narrow it down for you or make more specific recs

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Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
How much walking are they comfortable with? I just went around Seoul with a few American seniors a month back and there were some parts like the palaces and central Jongno that they were pretty miserable walking through. Lots of hills and not always a lot of benches. The museums near Gyeongbokgung (palace museum + folk museum) were big hits though; honestly I'd recommend them over the National Museum for foreigners, the current exhibitions are pretty nice, and they're more accessible.
Jamsil / the Seoul Tower bit is also generally flat and more accessible.

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