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bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Whitenoise Poster posted:

Also there is going to be a bit in part three where Zack and Cloud team up with a not evil version of Sephiroth to fight the normal evil Sephiroth that will eventually lead to the ending where there is just a normal mentally healthy Sephiroth hanging out with the rest of the cast and this is going to be in the top three things people are mad about when that game comes out.

Hell yeah they should do this. "Relatively normal guy Sephiroth" already has precedent from chapter 1 of Rebirth as well as Crisis Core.

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bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Zedsdeadbaby posted:

I always thought the real Sephiroth actually died the day he burned down Nibelheim, with Jenova taking his form on for the rest of the time. Even the remake/rebirth games made it clear that Jenova took on the forms of the dead. When 'Glenn' showed up before Rufus it was Jenova masquerading as Sephiroth. It's like an onion

Sephiroth is really in there in the original, inside the Northern Crater and Whirlwind Maze, that's why Cloud literally has to bring him the Black Materia and there's a whole cutscene about it.

There's kind of a merging of minds, or 'they're using each other' scenario going on, as Jenova is using Sephiroth's form (and others) out and about in the world, but Sephiroth is basically achieving Jenova's goals of killing the planet and loving off.

If Sephiroth's will was 100% gone there would be no thematic point to bringing him the materia - or Cloud would see frozen-Seph but everyone else would see frozen-Jenova.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



I assume rebuilding Nibelheim as it was allowed Shinra to maintain an easy official story.

There was an incident at the Nibelheim reactor and monsters were increasingly attacking the town. In a fierce attack where many lost their lives, including the brave SOLDIERs and grunts, the monsters were finally beaten back, and Shinra stepped in to administer the town directly and help it recover.

The 'lie' is minimal, only the source of the deaths - Sephiroth rather than the fiends - changes. and Shina salvages the best out of a bad situation.

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