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should be Temu Hardy in the Japans.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:34 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 05:03 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:I'm down for Shogun: I Now Super Enjoy Temu Hardy as a new thread title if the mods will it no, it's a far better show than that stupid title makes it seem like, you just think it would make a good click, which it would. but here's what would make an ever better click, and still be accurate fuji takes her tits out.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:42 |
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no thanks
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:48 |
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Shogun - Fuji Oakley
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:49 |
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that was just an idiotic drunk post made without thought, just continue talking on based on the ones we had before (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:50 |
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Shishkahuben posted:When drawing the map in episode 2, Blackthorne says the earth is "round, like a fruit" to no reaction from Toranaga or anyone else. The Greeks knew the earth was round since forever, and the Indians too, but did Chinese and Japanese astronomers and mathematicians have comparable knowledge? In the 1980 miniseries, Blackthorne then explains that his map is like the skin of an orange laid flat. In the book he does the same, then nerds out about Mercator projections and cardinal directions. Not sure if the current show meant anything more than Blackthorne nervously explaining.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:15 |
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McNally posted:Maybe you're thinking of the 1980 miniseries? I remember that Ishido being rather round-faced. In the 1980 show's portrayal of the escape from Osaka castle, Ishido is basically bumbling comic relief - dumpy, spluttering, baffled at the barbarian's yelling, hahaha, let them pass.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:24 |
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Hopefully Shogun is the blueprint for the Ghost of Tsushima Movie/Series Sony is doing.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:26 |
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A Sneaker Broker posted:Hopefully Shogun is the blueprint for the Ghost of Tsushima Movie/Series Sony is doing. I trust a firm like Sony to absolutely learn the wrongest possible lesson from Shogun's success as they do from literally everything else.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:42 |
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nine-gear crow posted:I trust a firm like Sony to absolutely learn the wrongest possible lesson from Shogun's success as they do from literally everything else. director 100 actors 150 set 200 cinematographer 50 costumes 350000000 writers 75 please help me budget my period piece is dying
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:58 |
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roomtone posted:fuji's actress is taking a supporting role into a star turn honestly Between this and Godzilla Minus One this has been a great couple of months for "Holy poo poo where has this actor been all this time- oh, right, Japan"
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 04:22 |
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Mordja posted:I can't be the only one who thinks Toranaga's failson isn't long for this world, right? He doesn't really make a particularly strong or good impression in the book either but based on his historical equivalent I think he has a lot more interesting potential that they could go into if they felt like there was time. (Book/history spoilers) I always wondered how much clavell had gamed out how it was going to go for blackthorne after the events of the book to square with the way william adams sort of fades out of history, with naga barely tolerating him being a pretty ominous sign
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:28 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:He doesn't really make a particularly strong or good impression in the book either but based on his historical equivalent I think he has a lot more interesting potential that they could go into if they felt like there was time. but the historical character he is based on sort of was the failson. One of Toranaga's other sons that shows up later in the book, and as far as I can tell hasn't even been mentioned in the show at all, is the one who becomes the second Shogun of the Tokugawa dynasty, historically. Maybe they'll merge the characters for the show? It doesn't really matter I suppose since all of that is stuff that happens well after the show ends. The person Nagakado is based off of died at like 27 from wounds suffered at Sekigahara
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:36 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:but the historical character he is based on sort of was the failson. One of Toranaga's other sons that shows up later in the book, and as far as I can tell hasn't even been mentioned in the show at all, is the one who becomes the second Shogun of the Tokugawa dynasty, historically. Maybe they'll merge the characters for the show? It doesn't really matter I suppose since all of that is stuff that happens well after the show ends. The person Nagakado is based off of died at like 27 from wounds suffered at Sekigahara Oh really? I kind of took as a matter of course he was the equivalent of hidetada (who ieyasu was also kind of pissed at for being a failson at various points). Well that's pretty boring honestly. e: Ah, checking the book I think I completely forgot naga and sudara were different characters. Just my rustiness then No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Mar 29, 2024 |
# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:39 |
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roomtone posted:fuji just pulled a gun..... No one in the history of guns has drawn with such class.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:57 |
Every Episode Yabu makes me forget he boiled a man alive and watched whatever that kink play Kiku was doing at the start. Man is a horrible monster but he’s just such a lovable idiot you just forgive the murder
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:19 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Every Episode Yabu makes me forget he boiled a man alive and watched whatever that kink play Kiku was doing at the start. Man is a horrible monster but he’s just such a lovable idiot you just forgive the murder Seems like more of a murder/captial punishment, tomayto/tomahto deal. He's a lord and they are pretty big on executions as a punishment for pretty much anything.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:30 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Every Episode Yabu makes me forget he boiled a man alive and watched whatever that kink play Kiku was doing at the start. Man is a horrible monster but he’s just such a lovable idiot you just forgive the murder I laughed at the notion that Yabu thought the sailor might suddenly speak Japanese at the moment of death. “drat! I waited forever and it was only screams and jibberish! What a waste of time!”
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:16 |
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INTJ Mastermind posted:I laughed at the notion that Yabu thought the sailor might suddenly speak Japanese at the moment of death. “drat! I waited forever and it was only screams and jibberish! What a waste of time!” Yabu is either an extremely intelligent idiot or an extremely stupid genius and I love him for it.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:26 |
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:I was refreshing myself with passages from the book, and at least in one scene in the second half, Ishido is described as "tall, lean and autocratic". From memory isn't book Toranaga the short and fat one
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:37 |
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High Warlord Zog posted:From memory isn't book Toranaga the short and fat one I'm gonna have to take a look. I read the book as a teenager and remember picturing Toranaga as an athlete with post-retirement bloat. When I watched the 1980 show, I thought Mifune was great, but I still had a hard time getting over my 1,000 pages of Toranaga in my imagination.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:09 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Every Episode Yabu makes me forget he boiled a man alive and watched whatever that kink play Kiku was doing at the start. Man is a horrible monster but he’s just such a lovable idiot you just forgive the murder I think Yabu's character in particular was the one Clavell was using to metaphor out his own personal journey of being a horrified POW and then a student of Japanese culture so this arc is by design
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:47 |
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:In the 1980 miniseries, Blackthorne then explains that his map is like the skin of an orange laid flat. In the book he does the same, then nerds out about Mercator projections and cardinal directions. Not sure if the current show meant anything more than Blackthorne nervously explaining. Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." Toranaga: "..."
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:36 |
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The globe is split up by lines of longitude and latitude. It is obvious where the lines of longitude line up, with home base being at the equator and it is also obvious where the lines of latitude line up, with the day resetting at the prime meridian, located over Greenwich, in Glorious Mother England. Toranaga: "..."
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:57 |
XYZAB posted:Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." Lmao
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XYZAB posted:Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." This is funny at a layer 1 level, but I feel it could be even more funny if I understood the second layer reference. What's this a reference to?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 17:25 |
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Mantle posted:This is funny at a layer 1 level, but I feel it could be even more funny if I understood the second layer reference. What's this a reference to? Some insane person's insane theories
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 17:31 |
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PostNouveau posted:Some insane person's insane theories The weird guy in high school who had printed out Dick Cheney photshop memes in a binder that he showed people during PE also brought up time cube. He refused to accept my theory of a 24 sided icositetragon earth that has 24 simultaneous days.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 18:21 |
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Arglebargle III posted:From googling around it looks like at least one Chinese astronomer proposed a spherical earth but the idea never caught on. It really was something how China got like 97 percent of the way there, multiple independent times over 1500 years. The prevailing concept was a square Earth rotating in a spherical volume. See, if you rotate a square plane, you'll trace out a circle, which is why the heavens must be a sphere. Somehow I feel like they overthought the problem.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 18:40 |
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Who cares what shape the world is when China, Korea and Japan are essentially the whole world
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 18:42 |
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XYZAB posted:Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." Meanwhile Yabu's in the background trying to keep up with the most gormless look on his face going "what the gently caress is a cube?"
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Sash! posted:It really was something how China got like 97 percent of the way there, multiple independent times over 1500 years. The prevailing concept was a square Earth rotating in a spherical volume. See, if you rotate a square plane, you'll trace out a circle, which is why the heavens must be a sphere. Somehow I feel like they overthought the problem. I think that might come down to a cycle in Chinese history similar to what Zhang He suffered. Zhang He was a close friend to the Emperor and given a mandate to sail into the world to bring civilization to the barbarians. He sails his fleet, all the way to the Cape of Good Hope, bringing back large amounts of riches to China, picking up loads of topographical data and theories. Before he can sail back out to test the theories, the court starts whispering into the Emperor's ear that Zhang He is more popular than the Emperor and will return to take the throne. The Emperor strips Zhange He of his fleet, banishes him from court, and suppresses almost all information about his journies.
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XYZAB posted:Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." Yabu stewed the wrong barbarian
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 20:42 |
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High Warlord Zog posted:From memory isn't book Toranaga the short and fat one I'm not sure about outright fat, but he's definitely described as a bit plump. I much prefer the portrayal in the show, the actor projects an aura of charisma and control.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 21:30 |
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toranaga has a belly, which is why his belly flop (not presented in show) is so absolutely devastating and no one must laugh at it
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 11:57 |
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Years ago I was listening to the DVD commentary to Octopussy, and there's a scene where Moneypenny is training a younger secretary, Penelope Smallbone, and the commentary pointed out that the actress is James Clavell's daughter. And sure enough, that's the same Michaela Clavell who is a producer on Shogun.
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 17:38 |
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XYZAB posted:Blackthorne: "The Earth is a 4 corner simultaneous 4 – day time cube, like this. When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as England, which is here, and the Japans, which is here." Blackthorne: "When the object enters the timestream, time begins to correct itself. Let me use this example: Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of balls and takes the place of the first ball. The formerly first ball becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. The Japans works the same way." Toranaga: "..."
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 21:12 |
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Imagine four busho on the edge of a cliff...
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 21:14 |
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"You die first, get it? Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I make your head into a canoe, you understand?"
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I love hearing blackthorne say "the Japans"
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