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I appreciate that Torunaga's crest on his clothes and helmet is about as close to the real Tokugawa one as Cosmo Jarvis is to Tom Hardy Also like Blackthorne being kind of a ruthless SOB, gives him more of a "I know I'm getting used here but I'm gonna play you at the same time" vibe. Like the way he dropped the info about the Portuguese base in Macau for maximum shock value. nine-gear crow posted:It's no more off putting than the blue contacts Edward James Olmos wore on Battlestar Galactica so that he would look more like Jamie Bamber. This is where I point to my Crazy Newspaper Clipping Wall with red string connecting "Bill Adama - contacts" to "William Adams/John Blackthorne - contacts??" (By which I mean to say it's a fun coincidence)
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I liked the "don't let the white guy try natto" interlude Like, cmon Mariko, dudes been living off boiled rope and albatross poo poo. You mean theres no weevils in this bowl? None at all? Itadaki-loving-masu.
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Panzeh posted:Yeah I think it was a lot smarter to have Blackthorne know cannons than some fresh new musketry tactic as muskets were well understood in Japan at the time he came. Also it's a great scene. As a fan of one Jas. Aubrey, Captain, RN I was pretty happy to see Blackthorne work out "Oh, right, accurate naval gunnery!" I have no idea if cannon circa 1600 would have been that accurate out to that range but I'm willing to forgive it. Also, I don't remember if they've said precisely when Blackthorne left England , but I checked for William Adams, who sailed in 1598, so he could have seen a well-known play in London about tragic lovers. Not 100% sure about cursed kings though.
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Bloody Pom posted:Based on dialogue in the episode I feel like the Portugese deliberately gave the Japanese older, shittier cannons/mortars. After all, with all the shady dealings they'd been up to in Japan's overseas holdings, why would they risk giving them weapons on parity with their own? Oh, yeah, I meant more I don't know if the Dutch cannons off Blackthorne's ship would have been able to make the shots seen every time. Maybe they would, I have no sense one way or the other Phenotype posted:Why was Blackthorne's journal written in Portuguese? Wouldn't have he written in English (and then it would have been an impenetrable enigma to Mariko) Good question, tbh. Was it just his journal, or was it the ship's rutter as well? (I had to look that up the first time it was mentioned, a rutter was kind of an early type of marine chart, with written directions from port to port instead of maps.) If the latter, I thought it was supposed to have been pilfered from the Portuguese, and that's what gave them the ability to sail through the Strait of Magellan Phy fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Mar 13, 2024 |
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Tankbuster posted:drat, they turned those messengers into chunky paste. Nebara Jozen: Haha yeah well don't shoot the messenger Nagakado: 
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INTJ Mastermind posted:salary Also a word for "payment for services that is a foodstuff"
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Beefeater1980 posted:He was a traitor who did the betrayal but didn’t get away with it. The poster who likened it to “my name is Jenny Brutus” was on the money. I kind of like the idea of Mariko using this analogy only for Blackthorne to go "Jenny who?" like a big ox, because his schooling was vocational and didn't include the classics and he left England literally just a year before Shakespeare published the play
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McNally posted:I'm only half-remembering the book, but in James Clavell's Japan someone of Toranaga's position and stature almost certainly would have been carrying masterpiece heirloom swords. "This legendary swordsmith only made three swords, and I have one" sort of thing. Also in the book, Toranaga was actually angry about losing them to the point that Blackthorne, despite his limited Japanese, clearly understood that Toranaga was expressing "goddamnit I've lost my swords gently caress" I've been trying to work out a joke based on Blackthorne's lovely Hanzo Steel mall swords and the fact that the actual Hattori Hanzo worked for Tokugawa but it feels like too big of a bridge to cross in a shitpost
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Be funny if the show introduced a version of Jan Joosten (the other white guy who the real Tokugawa made a samurai) and he finally meets back up with Blackthorne and he's had a comparatively dead easy time of it and just astounded by all of Blackthorne's crazy adventures (I have not read the book so if this is a spoiler, please forgive a big dummy)
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No Mods No Masters posted:Maybe the only thing you can criticize about the costumes is frumpy goblin blackthorne kinda just wears generic stuff so far. I guess even that achieves something as another way of foregrounding the japanese characters I love it, he finally got one of those V-shoulder garments that all the other ranking samurai have and it's still made out of scratchy dog towel material Dude could put on Torunaga's finest silks and they would instantly transmute into something more appropriate for a trained bear in a housecoat
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roomtone posted:fuji's actress is taking a supporting role into a star turn honestly Between this and Godzilla Minus One this has been a great couple of months for "Holy poo poo where has this actor been all this time- oh, right, Japan"
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XYZAB posted:Jabroni-gai shimasu. Jabronii-chan (I'm so, so sorry)
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"like the cook-a-ratch!"
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Every time someone incredibly wealthy is onscreen and the front of their garment is displaying like five or six different layers of silks I'm like "ooh" And then there's Blackthorne wearing his poo poo like a bathrobe
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FuriousGeorge posted:Blackthorne reaching through the wall to grab a ninja to shoot him through the wall was a badass move. That was a brutal episode, drat near Breaking Bad s4 finale levels of tension. RIP Mariko, you were too hot for the 17th century. Lessons for gun shooters about cover vs concealment should now until the end of time feature John Blackthorne blasting ninjas on the other side of the wall
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So was there any deeper significance of Mariko's poem about the leafless branch? Seems like the kind of thing that would be Weighted With Import for those well-versed in the culture, more than just "good, but a little bleak" Also lol autocorrect keeps trying to make me write Mario
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Panzeh posted:Yeah, it's a deliberate choice to kinda make you experience things as Blackthorne does. I figured it's about 30% this and 70% a 1980s American audience's antipathy towards reading subtitles
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