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Bringing this across. WhatEvil in the last thread posted:The other thing is that arguably the second most important political axis is the authoritarian/libertarian axis. This is why horseshoe theory is actually correct, but misrepresented and misunderstood. The people who like to propose horseshoe theory see the horseshoe as bringing extreme authoritarian factions close together while they, as reasonable centrists, are as far away from the extremes as possible. But in fact the horseshoe is the other way up. Nonce libertarians and anarcho-Marxist astrohomosexualists are at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum but are brought closer together by their desire to not be subject to government tyranny. The authoritarian left and authoritarian right are close together and both inherently fascistic because as you say, their being left or right wing is subsumed by and made secondary to their being tyrannical. And the centrists are indeed in the centre - slap bang between the two types of authoritarian. Which is why centrists always side with fascists over socialists: because politically they are inevitably closer to them. Jedit fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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InspectorCarbonara posted:when’s the interview with The Unknown The evil chocolate maker doesn't need to do interviews, Nestle can afford to just buy adverts instead
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Mar 1, 2024 10:04
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Skarsnik posted:are you allowed to wear a hat in the commons You used to have to wear a top hat to speak during a vote, that was passed around. That was stopped in 1998 as it looked loving stupid.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:08
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Noxville posted:By all accounts he was poo poo as Bradford West’s MP, ran pretty much the same campaign as this one then never bothered to actually do any work as an MP. They get to change their minds in 3-6 months anyway, may as well make a protest vote. Maybe it will shake labor up and ha ha ha I can't finish that sentence.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:14
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Apraxin posted:double post: hahahahaha We only lost because we're incompetent gently caress-ups, excellent PR work there.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:19
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Grey Hunter posted:Maybe it will shake labor up and ha ha ha I can't finish that sentence. With Labour on 7% and Tories on 12%, their take away from this will be that the Conservative policies are more popular.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:19
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water update: turns out it's the building management's issue. i'm glad this was all ascertained quickly and didn't take 12 loving hours to find out because five million different bodies don't talk to each other and especially not to the people who actually need the loving water
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Mar 1, 2024 10:24
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Mega Comrade posted:I somewhat feel sorry for Rochdale, he will be a poo poo MP for them. But it's very funny seeing this happen to Labour. 
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Mar 1, 2024 10:24
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Grey Hunter posted:They get to change their minds in 3-6 months anyway, may as well make a protest vote. Maybe it will shake labor up and ha ha ha I can't finish that sentence. Aye, it's a matter of months, that's a decent amount of George Galloway. If they elect him again, well, that's on Starmer
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Mar 1, 2024 10:27
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Lmao Labour
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Mar 1, 2024 10:31
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I wonder if this result will embolden the left within Labour and if so embolden them to do what exactly. Strikes me that it would be a very good time to launch something new. I can't see it and even if they did I am not sure how likely they are to pull it off well but there won't be many better opportunities. At the very least it should strengthen their hand internally.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:33
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Nah, the NEC will use this as a further excuse to continue imposing candidates: “We’ve seen what happens when we leave selection to the local party, and we cannot take that risk in The Most Important General Election In A Generation” and so on.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:41
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Prime Minister Galloway
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Mar 1, 2024 10:41
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Itzena posted:Nah, the NEC will use this as a further excuse to continue imposing candidates: “We’ve seen what happens when we leave selection to the local party, and we cannot take that risk in The Most Important General Election In A Generation” and so on. Surely nearly everyone is selected now? And regardless if they do continue to impose candidates which I'm sure they will wherever they can still get away with it surely it would only make a breakaway more likely as you would have a group of dissafected former MPs.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:45
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Zalakwe posted:I wonder if this result will embolden the left within Labour and if so embolden them to do what exactly. Nah, if the left of Labour split now they'd all get ChUK'd out of their seats at the next election. Smart move is to do it after the election. Might even be able to become the Opposition if Labour win silly amounts of seats and crush the Tories into double figures.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:47
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Makes me think more than ever that Corbyn will win his seat as an independent
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Mar 1, 2024 10:50
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Zalakwe posted:I wonder if this result will embolden the left within Labour and if so embolden them to do what exactly. I don't think there's a way to salvage the existing party brands to be honest (except tories being tories and flocking back as soon as they find the next charismatic clown). The ideal to me would be a new party that restricts application and treats the role like the job it is. So minimum levels of experience in x/y/z and such and such skills. It could be something like having lived in the area you're trying to represent for at least 5 years and having held a role within a government funded/operated organisation for x years or related field. So think, a party of former teachers, nursery staff, nurses, doctors, economists, lecturers, police (maybe), civil servants? I'm working on 3 hours of sleep here so there's probably huge holes in that, but it just feels like local things as well as all the services we need aren't actually represented in government. Instead we have power/money hungry career politicians who clearly represent whichever organisation is bribing them the most.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:55
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https://twitter.com/ianberriman/status/1763270324508848325/photo/2 god, he's such a shyster prick. Schrodinger's anti-imperialist revert / terf nationalist. regardless, Rarity posted:Lmao Labour
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Mar 1, 2024 10:57
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Zalakwe posted:I wonder if this result will embolden the left within Labour and if so embolden them to do what exactly. Probably not. This result was almost entirely caused by the Labour candidate being a poo poo, and the Tories and Lib Dems being pretty much useless in the area. Galloway essentially ran a single issue campaign and got lucky in the circumstances. By elections can be weird like this. At the General Labour will put up one of their faceless suits and almost certainly take it back with ease.
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Mar 1, 2024 10:58
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i don't think there's much of the left left within labour
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Mar 1, 2024 11:00
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Nuclear Spoon posted:i don't think there's much of the left left within labour If you're still in Kieth's Labour then you're not as left wing as you think
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Mar 1, 2024 11:08
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Makes me think more than ever that Corbyn will win his seat as an independent Crobbins will walk it. No problem
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Mar 1, 2024 11:08
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lol https://x.com/mccarthyfintan/status/1763473576701673841?s=46
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Mar 1, 2024 11:13
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he's a grifter oval office who i wish was hounded out of the public eye but if he can spill some beans and get some backs stabbed then hell, i'll watch
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Mar 1, 2024 11:16
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EvilHawk posted:Probably not. This result was almost entirely caused by the Labour candidate being a poo poo, and the Tories and Lib Dems being pretty much useless in the area. Galloway essentially ran a single issue campaign and got lucky in the circumstances. By elections can be weird like this. Of course they will win it back, that isn't the point I'm making. More that there is room for high profile independent/something else candidates to damage Labour at the next election. More room than in a great many other elections I would say. sebzilla posted:Nah, if the left of Labour split now they'd all get ChUK'd out of their seats at the next election. Quite possibly. If Corbyn and Abbot can make it back somehow it would be something interesting to defect to nearer the start of the parliament.
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Mar 1, 2024 11:21
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Maugrim posted:Water should not be privatised imo Have a lovely birthday. 
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Mar 1, 2024 11:22
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Angepain posted:personally I didn't think the original photo reflected that badly on her, i mean who wouldn't have their soul leave their body on walking into Wally Wanker's Chocolate Experience or whatever. Willy-Wanker's "Chocolate" Experience
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Mar 1, 2024 11:33
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George Galloway loving sucks but the plus side is that everyone you hate also think the same about him, so the key takeaway is to focus on them being upset and ignore the bad smell he's emanating.
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Mar 1, 2024 11:33
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I hate his stupid hat so much. Why does he wear it all the time? Take off the hat.
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Mar 1, 2024 11:38
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Make him and Tim Pool swap hats.
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Mar 1, 2024 11:43
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I hate his stupid hat so much. Why does he wear it all the time? Take off the hat. It's because he's bald.
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Mar 1, 2024 11:52
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I hate his stupid hat so much. Why does he wear it all the time? Take off the hat. Alternatively make him a Rabbi, iirc there's a precursor of the Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know etc. meme in the Talmud. e: ^^ ah, he's already running away from a big balder
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Mar 1, 2024 11:54
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On the subject of shameless grifting cunts, Russell Brand is entering his performative Christianity Era https://twitter.com/rustyrockets/status/1748988929020158003
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Mar 1, 2024 11:55
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Every time I see news of Russell Brand and he's still not become a cult leader I get very confused
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Mar 1, 2024 11:57
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Tesseraction posted:George Galloway loving sucks but the plus side is that everyone you hate also think the same about him, so the key takeaway is to focus on them being upset and ignore the bad smell he's emanating. https://x.com/lukasmukaspukas/status/1763339172578795612?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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Mar 1, 2024 11:58
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Rarity posted:Every time I see news of Russell Brand and he's still not become a cult leader I get very confused
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Mar 1, 2024 12:02
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fuctifino posted:On the subject of shameless grifting cunts, Russell Brand is entering his performative Christianity Era For second i thought that was an emaciated Jordan Peterson. 
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Mar 1, 2024 12:13
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Guavanaut posted:He's definitely trying but he's bad at it. Getting exposed as a sex creep is supposed to happen after starting the cult.
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Mar 1, 2024 12:13
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i imagine there's similar levels of benzos involved to be fair
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Keeps trying to be a leader of a cult but always ends up a liar and a oval office.
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