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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
How do I reconcile my dislike with the police vs my dislike of the fash.

Oh yeah that godzilla gif.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

smellmycheese posted:

He addresses that in the piece

Adequately or in a gravitational hand wave?

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

smellmycheese posted:

There are some absolutely choice nuggets in the drivel he’s pissed out for the telegraph



See, in principle - and principle alone - I have no issue with people wanting, liking and expressing a national identity.

But so many nationalists - English nationalists especially - have such a lovely, limited, mediocre, tedious, boring, uncreative, soulless [ad infinitum] view of the very thing they supposedly love. Why is it always a pub? And never even a good pub - darts, pool, quiz. You can see the tatty paisley print carpet, smell the stale bear, see the kitsch paintings of Spitfires and the reproduction horse brasses around the mantlepiece.

I (we) know that deep down it's because these people know that the cool stuff has to be shared with all the out-group people, which is fundamentally what they don't like and the very reason they're English nationalists not British nationalists. But I wonder if they ever take stock and realise that they're rooting for such a drab and useless existence.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Tesseraction posted:

Adequately or in a gravitational hand wave?

It’s the Frankie Goes to Hollywood ref that really does it for me

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

lmao admitting the left wing argument

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"Why do the English participate in the event where they are outsiders who are openly welcomed, but outsiders don't want to participate in our gently caress Off We're Full event?"

A mystery for the ages.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
I’d be up for a darts, pool and quiz triathlon to be fair. It would mean my quiz team would need to find a darts player though.

much to ponder

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Can't believe that everyone who said they were English today got arrested and thrown in jail.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Jakabite posted:

I’d be up for a darts, pool and quiz triathlon to be fair. It would mean my quiz team would need to find a darts player though.

much to ponder

Surely it's all at once - dart in one hand, pool racket in the other, while trying to answer questions with your brain

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Bobstar posted:

pool racket in the other

You sound like a liability in a match.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

If only you could go to a pub and play darts or eat beef stew, but you literally can't, because of Sharia law and woke.

This outlook gets frequently and concisely summarized by Riley @ Trashfuture as (and I'm paraphrasing): "it should be illegal for people to say I'm not cool"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He seems to miss out all the effort and community building behind the difference. St Patrick's day wasn't that popular in England decades ago, but anti-Irish racism was. Leicester didn't get the biggest Diwali celebrations outside of India by divine fiat, it took decades of community outreach while dickheads made poo poo up about it. People still moan about everything from Notting Hill Carnival to a few rows of lights for Eid.

If they want it to be a widely attended phenomenon they'll need to put in the outreach and give it wide appeal (and accept that by the end of it it's not going to be 100% True English but rather a cultural creation with its own geist). Everyone else had to.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

smellmycheese posted:

Today’s Telegraph…


*Jamiroquai-ishly*: 🎼Virtual Illegality is what we're livin' in🎶

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Everyone wants to get piss drunk and wear horrible plastic tat for saint paddy's day but nobody wants to get piss drunk, wear horrible plastic tat, and start a fist fight for saint george's day, smh the wokes have done it again.

You know it strikes me that there's surprisingly little conservative appeal to like, natural beauty in the UK. Even their idea of the countryside is still loving pubs and flat caps and loving up the wildlife. Nobody seems very interested in the actual nice things about being out in the countryside. Which is weird as someone who does not at all like cities. Like do they only enjoy the countrside because it's full of white people?

If you for some reason required me to make a "things I actually like about living in england" video it'd basically be 100% shots of the yorkshire coast and the moors. Like it's just a very beautiful place to exist in. But I get a real impression that they just don't... see any of that? Like if you went and put them out in the woods they'd just start carving "can't show english countryside on telly these days" on the nearest tree.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Apr 23, 2024

Honest Davion
Jul 25, 2006
I buy Joel Nerf Guns

This is the sort of crossover I never know I wanted, Strongbad on England, wow thank you.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It's possible to make me proud to be British but it's usually by seeing poo poo like Prescott decking an egg man or Gazza trying to go fishing with that mass shooter while coked off his tits.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Lot harder to find reasons to be proud of the Indian side these days let me tell ya.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Good things about England:

You can get a decent curry in most towns
Some of it looks nice (mainly the bits where nobody lives)
Cops too lazy to bother you if you're having a cheeky spliff (unless you're black)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They should make saint andrew's day about that guy who lamped a terror bomber at the airport.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

That counts both UK Indian stuff and Bharat stuff

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Bobstar posted:

Surely it's all at once - dart in one hand, pool racket in the other, while trying to answer questions with your brain

No you do the quiz and if you get it wrong the opposing team get to throw darts/pool balls at you.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

smellmycheese posted:

It’s the Frankie Goes to Hollywood ref that really does it for me



I feel like this guy originally typed "As a Paddy myself" before his extra posh strength spell checker corrected it to "Patrick".
Thus removing his point.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


OwlFancier posted:

You know it strikes me that there's surprisingly little conservative appeal to like, natural beauty in the UK. Even their idea of the countryside is still loving pubs and flat caps and loving up the wildlife. Nobody seems very interested in the actual nice things about being out in the countryside. Which is weird as someone who does not at all like cities. Like do they only enjoy the countrside because it's full of white people?

It's because it's all owned by the Woke National Trust and you can't go for a simple walk any more without a gilet-wearing volunteer Ranger running up to you and telling you to feel guilty about the slave trade before force-feeding you a vegan scone

Bozza
Mar 5, 2004

"I'm a really useful engine!"
as an Englishman living in Scotland you get an odd view of your own nationality

frankly for me it boils down to this: the things that I like about being English would upset the Telegraph and the things that make the Telegraph proud to be English make me loving embarrassed

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Everyone wants to get piss drunk and wear horrible plastic tat for saint paddy's day but nobody wants to get piss drunk, wear horrible plastic tat, and start a fist fight for saint george's day, smh the wokes have done it again.

You know it strikes me that there's surprisingly little conservative appeal to like, natural beauty in the UK. Even their idea of the countryside is still loving pubs and flat caps and loving up the wildlife. Nobody seems very interested in the actual nice things about being out in the countryside. Which is weird as someone who does not at all like cities. Like do they only enjoy the countrside because it's full of white people?

If you for some reason required me to make a "things I actually like about living in england" video it'd basically be 100% shots of the yorkshire coast and the moors. Like it's just a very beautiful place to exist in. But I get a real impression that they just don't... see any of that? Like if you went and put them out in the woods they'd just start carving "can't show english countryside on telly these days" on the nearest tree.

100%

Maybe I'm more sensitive to this at the moment than normal, having spent a long weekend visiting family in Devon and walking around Dartmoor, but there is a lot to like (let's leave proud aside for now) about England from a physical landscape sense.

Sitting with my back against a cold tor, pouring out a cup of tea from a thermos, listening to the soft easterly wind rustle the grass, seeing the sun sink below the Cornish hills and the wooded valleys of Devon turn all dark and mysterious as the lights of Plymouth and Torbay started to twinkle up in the gathering night...I was very grateful to be in that corner of the world and to have roots and easy access there.



But I get a very real sense that a lot of the self-proclaimed English Patriots don't have any stirrings of the spirit like that. Take them to the top of Hay Tor or on a boat trip down the Dart Valley (which I rate as one of the most perfect joint efforts between nature and humanity in creating a nice environment anywhere on the planet, and dripping with interesting history, geography, mythology, archaeology etc. to boot) and they will, at best, be pleased that it's 'theirs' and not someone else's. Like a possession to be treasured but never used or enjoyed or even really looked at. And yes, a non-zero amount of them will survey the rolling miles of windswept grass, the clear blue skies, the church-like tors, the scattered herds of ponies and hear the choir of skylarks and the uppermost thought in their head will be "at least there aren't any of those people here".



E: Or, more succinctly:

Bozza posted:

the things that I like about being English would upset the Telegraph and the things that make the Telegraph proud to be English make me loving embarrassed

BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Apr 23, 2024

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


keep punching joe posted:

Can't believe that everyone who said they were English today got arrested and thrown in jail.

Maybe not everyone but there are situations where that can legitimately land you in custody.

Like if you're a foreign migrant claiming it when interviewed by the Home Office.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
wtf is a St George, fake rear end saint

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

You know it strikes me that there's surprisingly little conservative appeal to like, natural beauty in the UK. Even their idea of the countryside is still loving pubs and flat caps and loving up the wildlife. Nobody seems very interested in the actual nice things about being out in the countryside. Which is weird as someone who does not at all like cities. Like do they only enjoy the countrside because it's full of white people?

New idea for St George's Day: everyone who wants to celebrate St George's Day should go to Beachy Head and jump the gently caress off

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009

BalloonFish posted:

Why is it always a pub? And never even a good pub - darts, pool, quiz.

all of these are good in a pub imo

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

A pub quiz where you can prod the usual winners with pool cues once a round would be fun. For me. For them it would probably be annoying and mildly painful depending on the prodder.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Bozza posted:

The things that I like about being English would upset the Telegraph and the things that make the Telegraph proud to be English make me loving embarrassed

:emptyquote:

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009
anyway a pub is only as good as the people in it. Range of available drinks, whether it does food, quality of furnishings etc. are all immaterial. The patter is paramount

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It has been a bit of a shame that there's some pubs where it's the nicest loving place you've ever seen but the only lager might as well be the dishwater and you're not in a mood for the CAMRA™ certified real ale.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The Question IRL posted:

I feel like this guy originally typed "As a Paddy myself" before his extra posh strength spell checker corrected it to "Patrick".
Thus removing his point.

It's a quote from the Telegraph article. His name actually is Patrick.

Also laughing at the thought that a Telegraph writer doesn't have every mild racial slur imaginable already added to custom.dic.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

smellmycheese posted:

Today’s Telegraph…


𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓼𝓮 𝓓𝓪𝔂𝓼...

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Apraxin posted:

tried to think of an appropriate comment to post along with this image, but no, can't come up with anything printable



Is that Rishi on the 'Lolita Express' ?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Grey Hunter posted:

While it's a terrible law, this is exactly what the process is supposed ot do - stop an unelected house overruling an elected one. Shame they couldn't hold off until the next election.
On the other hand, this may move the election up.

since it's just another gentlemen's agreement that the commons actually consider the lords amendments, it's just a question of time for the lords to become entirely a social club that doesn't bother proposing amendments.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Private Speech posted:

A380s nowadays are in demand since air travel picked up again and they aren't making any more of them after they shut down production during covid.

in demand, but only enough to refurbish the mothballed ones and not to build more. unless several major airlines make a combined order for a few hundred that factory line isn't getting rebuilt.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

josh04 posted:

Piss, moan, do it anyway?

Speaking of piss:

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1782713997743018184

the entire labour front bench should drown in a var of it

wait jesus christ I must have had a mild stroke earlier and missed this aurgh now I'm having a less mild stroke

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