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Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

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lmao, can't alloway the galloway



local independent was second on 6k, three main parties between them barely added up to 8k

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Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

Darth Walrus posted:

Yeah, even accounting for the various catastrophes in other parties' local campaigns, this seems like an extremely convincing repudiation of them on a national level.
yeah, i mean it's just one by-election and Labour and the Greens both had dumpsterfire campaigns, but the Lab/Con/LibDem voteshare went from 90%+ to 25%, with 60% going to two very different outsiders whose common theme was 'we are being mistreated and ignored by the political establishment as a whole (galloway being a Known Crank campaigning on 'we're all being made complicit in a genocide that the main parties will not recognize and are trying to suppress the voices of those who do' and tully being a guy who entered politics two weeks ago on a platform of 'i'm openly eschewing positions on all national policy questions, i just know our wonderful town is simultaneously starved of funds while being mocked as the weird northern nonce place, and i will be an advocate for us and our families')

seems to speak to a deep dissatisfaction with how things are, if only we had a compassionate leftist leader with grass roots support who could offer an alternative national vision. oh well!

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
double post: hahahahaha



Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

forkboy84 posted:

It's a dead giveaway someone is Canadian
i was very tickled on finding out that a canadian alternative term for 'shadow minister' is 'critic'

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/03/ministers-consider-ban-mps-engaging-pro-palestine-climate-protesters

quote:

Ministers are considering proposals to ban MPs and councillors from engaging with groups such as the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil. The plans, put forward by the government’s adviser on political violence, John Woodcock, say mainstream political leaders should tell their representatives to employ a “zero-tolerance approach” to groups that use disruptive tactics or fail to stop “hate” on marches.

Rishi Sunak and James Cleverly, the home secretary, are due to discuss the proposals as part of a review conducted by Woodcock, the former Labour MP who now sits as Lord Walney, a cross-bench peer. The prime minister was condemned by human rights groups for warning of “forces here at home trying to tear us apart” during a hastily arranged address in Downing Street on Friday. On Wednesday, he was accused of exaggerating tensions at protests after he warned of “mob rule” in the UK.

In an article in the Sun on Sunday, Walney wrote: “My review on political violence is about to be formally submitted to the prime minister and the home secretary. In it, I am asking the leader of every mainstream political party to take a zero-tolerance approach to the menace that is threatening our democracy. So Rishi and Keir [Starmer] should instruct their MPs and councillors not to engage with anyone from the PSC until they get their house in order and cut the hate from their marches.”

The proposals are politically convenient for the government because, if accepted, they would put further pressure on the Labour leader over his party’s stance on pro-Palestine demonstrations.
of course it's that loving bellend woodcock

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

keep punching joe posted:

After a certain threshold FPTP breaks, see Scotland 2015 for example. Though that was a wave of rage and optimism that brought that about. Starmer Labour are like the anti charisma party sensibly avoiding anything that looks like positive change.

So they'll probably gently caress it.
one of the more depressing things about it is that the safest tory seats are disproportionately held by the biggest headbangers, so even in the event of the Full Starmergeddon and the tories being reduced to 20 mps, that 20 probably includes badenoch, braverman, francois, patel, and truss, at least.

so like as not the lesson they take from electoral annihilation will be 'the woke marxist deep state did this', they assert control of the party orgs, invite farage and tice back into the club, fold reform into the New Conservative Party for Liberty and Democracy, and by the time the next election rolls around after a few years under a labour government that believes it would be wrong to offer hope at a time when hopelessness is ongoing, the uk has a full on blood-gargling populist party to match wit the rest of europe

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
yeah, sunak's 'Commissioner for Countering Extremism' had an article in the torygraph about how they need to be bolder and 'take more risks' to combat extremism, and a couple of paragraphs in particular make me pretty sure they're going to try and use this new definition to ban pro-palestinian demosntrations:

https://archive.is/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/07/extremist-acts-have-been-normalised-in-britain/


(remembering this post for some reason)

frytechnician posted:

Well done everyone who turned out today if you made it. It was a long old protest from Hyde Park Corner to Battersea! Nothing but good vibes from everyone, really respectful and peaceful march. Once again, massive, massive loving respect for the Jewish community who joined, especially the people standing about halfway through the protest that were sons and daughters of Holocaust survivors - those guys got serious love from all that passed.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
looked up the commissioner's bio btw, and i'm sure everyone will be surprised:



to protect democracy, we must push back against extremism of all stripes, be it islamic, muslim, or muslamic

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
me 5 mins ago: why are we spending so many posts trading kate photo conspiracy theories?!?

me now: lol. lmao.
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1766944328847364201
https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1766950340572623325

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
some highlights from the tice/anderson press conference:

- anderson regrets his half-hearted 'apology' for saying sadiq khan was controlled by islamists, he was actually speaking Truth on behalf of Millions of Unheard Britons
- anderson is joining reform because 'I want my country back' (direct quote)
- tice says that the behaviour of the vile muslamics at palestine demos is is causing jewish people to leave london and go back to their true home, israel

real loving grim stuff tbh

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/11/biggest-tory-donor-looking-diane-abbott-hate-all-black-women




also cool to get more confirmation that our collective fate is in the hands of people who you'd back slowly away from if you overheard them ranting on down the pub

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

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Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
big brain rishi cooking up a bold new policy that will piss off absolutely everyone
https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1767638170869363098

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

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look he's not a racist, ok, he's just a... racism connoisseur

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
bleak lol



yes miriam i'm sure The Transes are going to seize power any day now and repurpose this legislation to throw people in jail for talking about large gametes or whatever

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
the racism is bad, but the racist... the racist is very good
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1768634313522684209

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

Small Strange Bird posted:

Rachel Reeves announcing to the City that Labour are full-on adopting Thatcherism as economic policy, Jesus Christ. :gonk:

It's weird, my memory of the Eighties under Thatcherism was that it was a period of massive unemployment, hugely increased inequality and boiling anger at a cruel and callous government. But I guess I was wrong and it was a time of rising boats for all!
lol at this 'actually,'



Labour 2024: We Do Not Endorse The Whole Thatcher Experience

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
speaking of

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/19/cruel-remains-of-50-hares-and-birds-of-prey-dumped-outside-hampshire-shop


what the absolute gently caress is wrong with people

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
most depressing political realization i had this year was thinking 'farage feels like he's been the one political constant of my adult life, the only prominent figure of the early 00s who hasn't hosed off to a lordship or a consulting career, he must be getting pretty old and ready to hang up his hat by now, surely' then looking it up and finding he hasn't quite turned 60 yet and probably has decades more performative gurning racism in him

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
nice to see liz is continuing to take it well
https://twitter.com/HenryRiley1/status/1779812801541754949
https://twitter.com/HenryRiley1/status/1779813762419110051

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
when i was A Wee Lad, my parents would play these old cassette tapes that they'd recorded off american radio back in the 70s, so the first song i remember hearing was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpU2tAQtuT8

young me had a weird idea of the kind of things that grown-up songs were about lol

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
MP discovers the concept of 'crime'

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
great to see you, to see you great

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral


blah blah unique generational trauma, blah blah you've cut mental health services to the bone blah blah. no, the real problem here is the loving WOKE DOCTORS!!!!!!!

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
eh, i mean he personally was being aggro and angling for trouble and the cop probably wouldn't have said it to someone who just happened to walk up the protest area, but 'you can't be standing around here like that, looking all jewish' is still not exactly great

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
tried to think of an appropriate comment to post along with this image, but no, can't come up with anything printable

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
lol

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/apr/24/gb-news-can-still-use-politicians-as-presenters-ofcom

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

sinky posted:

Turning into the Gestapo as part of a local election campaign

Home Office to detain asylum seekers across UK in shock Rwanda operation


imagine then putting this level of effort into ensuring proper resources and staffing for a public service, or literally any good thing at all

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/28/tory-rebels-plan-100-day-policy-blitz-if-local-elections-are-disaster-for-party


*taking a long hard look in the mirror, summoning all my powers of introspection*: we have to crack down harder on the poor and disabled

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
christ, whoever said they trying to time this for the locals was absolutely on the mark, what the gently caress kind of PR is this meant to be
https://twitter.com/ukhomeoffice/status/1785635671316537510

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
looks like tories finished behind reform in six of seven sunderland council seats where they were both standing so far :whitewater:
https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1786175886951113027

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

EvilHawk posted:

Labour briefing that they are losing the West Midlands mayoral contest because of an independent pro-Gaza candidate

I assume this will mean a change in policy right?
this quote from 'a senior Labour source' is absolutely loving deranged, holy poo poo

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
also, lol at this analysis:



the tees valley mayor, who is personally quite popular and tries to detach himself from the national party, was re-elected with 53% of the vote compared to 70% three years ago. in his victory speech, he said he was happy to work with rishi sunak, or you know, whoever the prime minister is next year, for the benefit of his constituents. previous polls have shown that more than half his voters vote for the man himself and wouldn't consider themselves tory voters in general.

this is the best result of the night for the conservatives, they will be absolutely delighted with this.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
whoopsie

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

smellmycheese posted:

The public’s passion for Keith’s punchy policies is palpable
'palpable hatred for the government like there was before 97, but without the blair-like enthusiasm for labour' seems to be the throughline so far

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

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Kojiro posted:

I'm in Bradford and a lot of pro-Palestine indepedants have won out over Labour here, so not all tories by any means. Labour hold overall though
yeah, i don't have the exact math, but labour have a fair few taken more seats off the tories than you'd think from the numbers, their overall gain is offset by losing a bunch of their won seats to the greens and indies tho. 12 alone in newcastle/tyneside, which i hoped was a good sign for driscoll, but alas :(

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
it feels like the big thing that spells Humiliation for Looser Rishi if it holds (unless he can somehow persuade are nige to stop shiving him) is that most of the wards where reform were standing had results like:

Lab: 41% (+7)
Con: 20% (-20)
Ref: 17% (+17)
Green: 12% (+5)
others

if they put up candidates nationwide in the general, starmer's gonna have a whole lot of seats just fall into his lap

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
Rip to the dreams of Mayor Your Racist Aunt, maybe the journos should have done less fevered speculation on raw turnout figures before any votes were counted :shrug:

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
lol, labour might take the West Midlands mayorship (mayorality?) after all, despite hamas’s dastardly schemes

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Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68980700

congrats to keith on uniting the entire part spectrum from john mcdonnell through to rosie loving duffield into publicly coming out against accepting elphicke lol, amazing acumen



odds thatthis the same senior figure who was yelling my last week about hamas costing them the West Midlands?

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