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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Worf posted:

you dont really need to because these are not things ive ever heard discussed outside of the internet, largely by ppl that i assume stay inside

i teach middle school and let me assure you kids say all of this poo poo on a regular basis

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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

TrashMammal posted:

another sterling example of goons having no insight whatsoever into the lives of normal and popular people

yeah that poo poo might have been true in our times but these days theres zero separation between online and real life

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Worf posted:

Yea in literal middle school

those middle schoolers will one day grow up into adults and i bet you they will maintain the same relationship with online content as they do now

TIMES HAVE CHANGED OLD MAN

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

frumpykvetchbot posted:

again with the making people wait for you strawman.

You can allow yourself in your daily routine to be liberated from the concept of timeliness without "imposing" anything on anybody else.

What are these "meetings" of which you speak? From past experience in the horologically enslaved world under Corpo I know that there are types of work setups that only function with synchronized facetime and meetings all the time. So I don't institute such work setups in my small but successful organization.

Everybody you interact with can in principle just share their thoughts asynchronously via emails or in a slack channel or whatever. Raise issues through there. Only if exceptions arise of immense importance threatening to bring down the show do you need to ever hit the call button which is an imposition, a demand for your attention, disrupting whatever you're presently doing. The assumption is that it must be pretty urgent and it's the yellow button next to the nuclear option.

But even for those rare situations our rule is to only let the call chime ring for a few seconds. Enough so that if you're within earshot you know someone wants a realtime conversation and the assumption is that it must be pretty urgent. So I respond to that within a few minutes usually. Take a piss first or get a coffee from the machine and check my appearance before I sit down ready to be on voice and/or camera. The other party wants my attention, and now I'm comfortable and focused and ready to have that conversation. Go.

I suspect that most work-from-home orgs could adopt these principles if they wanted to. Obviously not applicable for a worksite with lots of realtime orchestration and micro-coordination. And that's not the kind of work that I do or care to be involved with.

But to answer the question you keep bringing up, of course I show up on time if we have agreed on a meeting. My phone has a google calendar chime thing. I do know what a schedule is and if I have to take like a flight or something of course I can't expect them to wait for me. But this happens so rarely, like a few times a month, so that I can mentally switch, temporarily, from our civilized and gentle "island time" to the barbary which is the "city time" world of the horologically enslaved, emissaries from which we mustn't disappoint by letting them waste precious expensive seconds of their so-efficiently packed schedules.

jesus christ lol

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