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As a person interested in visual arts working in that area with most of my social circle there too, AI makes me very depressed and want to live the rest of my life in an isolated cabin in the woods with no power or access to technology more modern than the year 1940.
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Waffle House posted:It's awesome that the technology is getting pushed, No
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Hammerite posted:what is it useful for Putting artists out of work to replace them with a soulless facsimile that can produce a vast amount of poo poo.
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KakerMix posted:Oh not not the Hollywood that's crushed an infinite number of people under the wheels of sexual exploitation, union busting and nepotism! Not the Hollywood that churns out incredibly uncreative sequel after prequel after soft reboot! So... your take on Hollywood studios being relentlessly exploitative and lovely towards their workers is to support something that will just make them even more exploitative and lovely towards their workers? Did you not pay attention to one of the major issues that the unions they are trying to bust brought up in the strikes?
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KakerMix posted:My take is the system is broken and ~AI~ is the latest distraction. It isn't the tool, it isn't the tech, it is the system itself that allows exploitation to an absurd degree. The idea that you can just effortlessly disentangle the the tech from the system that produces it is absurd, AI like this didn't just poof into existence in its current form as some neutral entity, it was built by gigantic tech companies and is being sold to similarly massive enterprises in other industries like entertainment because it promises to do stuff like this, slash the actual human workers out of the process of production to cut costs, confident that people won't care enough if the slop factory gets even sloppier now that its even more disconnected from actual human creativity and skill. If your response to say that you don't care because of other long running scandals in Hollywood, thanks I guess, that's added nothing.
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KakerMix posted:I don't really want to be that guy saying "wow capitalism sure does suck huh" but the fact that the power is concentrated in the hands of a few dumb as poo poo executives means this was always going to happen. Of course any tool that makes things cheaper is going to be adopted wholesale by the system that directly rewards this. I know where the tech came from, and I know who is buying it. It's a big giant bubble filled with the same braindead idiots that were just shilling NFTs and blockchain and whatever the hell else. If I had my way Hollywood studios would be employee owned which snips all out since employees would never outsource themselves. If I *really* had my way, nobody would have to work so goddamned much to support themselves, but that's me screaming "CAPITALISM!" again. Then in the interest of being a person very concerned about capitalism and its effects on people I know well, not to mention myself, I'm still going to hate the effects that Generative AI are going to have, because when studios and the like want to slash the labour force and damage the average worker, they can't just do that automatically, they need the leverage and power to do that, and AI provides it, in that sense something like AI in this form is essentially the sawblade they need to get cutting. This reasoning isn't foreign to Marxism, a lot of the reason Socialist ideology got going in a major way during the 19th century was because the massive development of technology at an unprecedented rate was considerably upending the relationship between the owners of capital and the workers, generally in favour of the owners, who could lesson their need for workers, and skilled labour in particular, as technology improved, degrading the bargaining position of Labour. This process has never actually stopped in a major way since then, and I think we're just entering the newest era of that with things like AI, as I said earlier, these technologies aren't neutral, they never really were even going back to things like mechanization of textiles, but I think generative AI for art is particularly galling because it doesn't even have the argument that its for crucial goods or services where there's tangible quality of life benefits that comes with the greater production behind mechanization despite the costs for the workers, at least with industrially produced clothing the drop in costs for producing the average shirt did carry over to the average consumer and its arguable that it was better for society as a whole as a result. Doing this to intrinsically creative industries turns my stomach, nobody fundamentally needs a decorative picture in the same way they do for clothes, food, housing etc, the main effect will be that artists who make a living off of this will get their livelihoods pulled out from under them, especially in more commercial sectors where a lot of people make an actual living. Soon enough most imagery you see in your day to day life that was made by real people, adverts, product design, and increasingly major corporate entertainment from TV, Films and Videogames, will increasingly be superseded by more and more AI produced content. At the end of the day, I suppose I am just an old man yelling at a cloud but I loving hate this thought, its the very last thing I would want to see automated by AI, it brings to mind a point I saw elsewhere on the internet that its pretty on brand for capitalism to automate away jobs that people would be passionate about in the creative arts instead of the jobs people actually hate.
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