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https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/slideshow.html "The Babel Image Archives are an application of the principle underlying Jorge Luis Borges' “The Library Of Babel” to the visual world. Borges' short story, the inspiration for libraryofbabel.info, describes a universal library containing every possible permutation of 410 pages of letters, thus everything that ever has been or ever could be written. Instead of letters and punctuation marks, the Image Archives permute the 4096 colors, and rather than a page of 40 lines each with 80 characters, the images are pixel grids with 416 rows and 640 columns. It contains every image that ever has been or could be created with this color palette in these dimensions, including portraits of every person who ever lived at every moment in their life, digitized versions of every work of art ever created, even those lost to history, as well as every work of art which ever could be created, and photographs of your own birth, wedding, and funeral. It contains 4096266240 (~10961755) unique images. Borges' story, as well as its online iteration, demonstrate a property of the essence of language. Though it is commonly thought that the meaning of language bears an intrinsic relationship to the conscious, rational intentions of the speaker or writer creating an utterance, the Library of Babel reminds us that language is always possible in the absence of any intention toward signification. In fact, every word we speak or mark we make, even the most intimate and spontaneous, is indistinguishable from its mechanical reiteration. The Babel Image Archives exist to make us mindful of a similar property of the visual world (which is, in its own way, a language). Though we think of the world we perceive through sight as the most fundamental layer of reality, it is itself a representation, subject to the same vicissitudes as language, capable of being dislodged from its motivating context. If we glance at our surroundings, it seems as though the objects before us are immediately present, but anything we see forevermore has been foretold in the library, long before this moment and indifferent to the presence of its contents." -https://libraryofbabel.info/About.html So the library has a finite number of images... about 10961755. Given enough time, you could go through them all. But it's a huge amount. For reference, the total number of atoms in the entire universe is about 1080. If you spent your entire life letting the slideshow run, the chance that you would ever see anything other than color noise is very very very extremely small. But you can test it with any image you have. Upload it here, and it will calculate its exact position in the library. So consider this... quantum computing. An algorithm could be developed for quantum computing that could very quickly throw out all of the images that are just noise or color blocks or gradients. Then... we could see. We could see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awpVjv2-Ow0 Discuss.
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whose job is it to find and delete the ~10961754 problematic images from the archive?
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Bad Purchase posted:whose job is it to find and delete the ~10961754 problematic images from the archive? the quantum computer
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Mar 12, 2024 14:53
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Bad Purchase posted:whose job is it to find and delete the ~10961754 problematic images from the archive? The second post itt is figuring out how to tattle on randomly created images.
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Mar 12, 2024 14:57
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The Loin King posted:The second post itt is figuring out how to tattle on randomly created images. mod tryouts
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Mar 12, 2024 15:05
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i found a great one but it's ~96000 characters long
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Mar 12, 2024 15:06
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okay but there's over a million goatses on these very forums i think thats cooler  ya dingus https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1577923&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7#post360952005
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So what I don’t get about the reverse image search. If it finds an image in the Library from one I uploaded, shouldn’t there also be hundreds of iterations of that image on either side of its position with varying degrees of pixel changes? To the left and right of what it found in a reverse search is just more noise.
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Lt. Cock posted:So what I don’t get about the reverse image search. If it finds an image in the Library from one I uploaded, shouldn’t there also be hundreds of iterations of that image on either side of its position with varying degrees of pixel changes? To the left and right of what it found in a reverse search is just more noise. hundreds is an understatement, there isn’t a name for the number of similar images that would exist with barely noticeable changes
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I think its probably generating things randomly within that grid because even if we assume that every photo is at bare minimum a byte of data the amount of data required to be stored is extraordinarily cost prohibitive. Edit: also if you were going to have all the images you would have to generate them all before hand which would take a long rear end time Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 17:06
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hmmmm. interesting
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Mar 12, 2024 17:10
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So uh the first image is how the Big Bang looked like
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Bad Purchase posted:whose job is it to find and delete the ~10961754 problematic images from the archive? god, obviously
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Telsa Cola posted:I think its probably generating things randomly within that grid because even if we assume that every photo is at bare minimum a byte of data the amount of data required to be stored is extraordinarily cost prohibitive. I assume that it has some non-random algorithm that's somehow faster/more compressible than iterating through every variation incrementally. So it can calculate which spot a given image is supposed to be in, and the same image will always come up at the same spot, and you could theoretically predict which spot an image which show up in if you had access to the algorithm. But there's no "archive" per se and the position numbers aren't meaningful outside of the algorithm.
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Mar 12, 2024 17:33
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the holy poopacy posted:I assume that it has some non-random algorithm that's somehow faster/more compressible than iterating through every variation incrementally. So it can calculate which spot a given image is supposed to be in, and the same image will always come up at the same spot, and you could theoretically predict which spot an image which show up in if you had access to the algorithm. But there's no "archive" per se and the position numbers aren't meaningful outside of the algorithm. Yeah that makes sense. It just seems like calling it an archive or a library is lying, since that would be pretty infeasible.
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Smugworth posted:cool
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Hey, OP's mom, naked!
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Drewsky posted:hmmmm. interesting Smugworth posted:cool
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 Take a moment to imagine with me, the Infinite Goatse. A goatse of every conceivable shape, size, color, and depth, existing simultaneously. They are there. Hidden. In the Babel Image Archive. Most will go undetected by human eyes. They will stretch into being, gape majestically, and eventually tear themselves asunder without ever being perceived by us. A humble existence known to none… butt themselves. *Cosmos synth theme*
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Mar 12, 2024 19:09
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The Loin King posted:The second post itt is figuring out how to tattle on randomly created images. Reporting child porn: tattling. Thanks, goons!
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Mar 12, 2024 19:11
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Bad Purchase posted:whose job is it to find and delete the ~10961754 problematic images from the archive? Right? It's a little disturbing knowing that, somewhere among all that, is a ridiculous amount of CSAM.
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Some Youtuber made their own better version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIROMQios4 Mega64 fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 19:13
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wheres goatse
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Mar 12, 2024 19:13
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I’m going to sue them for hosting images and descriptions of my balls.
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Does this mean I can finally find my holy grail: a picture of me with Hitler and Danny DeVito only I’m a unicorn centaur and Hitler is loving me with a snake cock while Danny DeVito is jizzing green slime out of his tits onto my sparkly horn?
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Henry Lee Mucus posted:Does this mean I can finally find my holy grail: a picture of me with Hitler and Danny DeVito only I’m a unicorn centaur and Hitler is loving me with a snake cock while Danny DeVito is jizzing green slime out of his tits onto my sparkly horn? Yeah, but it'll look like it was shot on a digital camera from 1998.
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Time_pants posted:Yeah, but it'll look like it was shot on a digital camera from 1998. nah, you just need to find all the cropped tiles from the 50MP shot and put them back together that’s the great thing about this image archive, it actually contains every possible image at any resolution desired, you just have to assemble it from tiles.
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So you're saying there's an 8k Goatse
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Mar 12, 2024 19:33
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friend, there’s an 80k goatse just waiting to be meticulously recovered
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Time_pants posted:Yeah, but it'll look like it was shot on a digital camera from 1998. Even better honestly
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there’s a goatse somewhere in there from the inside looking out
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Whoa I took a peek and saw how I would die. Pretty radical stuff!
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Inzombiac posted:Whoa I took a peek and saw how I would die. I had no idea I could produce that much feces. Sorry, bro 
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Mega64 posted:So you're saying there's an 8k Goatse Every image in the "archive" is 640x416. Goatse - from the original gap3.jpg file in the gap.zip archive - resized to 416 pixels tall with black borders applied to the sides to fill it to 640, then saved as a png, results in a position in the archive of: https://justpaste.it/a5x8w As you can see from the number, it's finite, but extremely huge. A billion has 10 digits. A trillion has 13 digits. The above image's position has 961,760 digits. Again, for reference, the total number of all atoms in the universe is around 81 digits. If you increment it by one in either direction (click the back or forward button on libraryofbabel.info), you just get color noise. So the "position" has nothing to do with similarity. Here's a paste without commas: https://justpaste.it/d3xs0 Copy the number above via CTRL-C, and go to https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/slideshow.html. Click on where it says "babelia #XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX", paste the number in via CTRL-V, then click "seek" and it will find goatse. If any single number in the string of 961,760 digits is changed, you'll just get color noise. Bula Vinaka fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Reporting child porn: tattling. Time_pants posted:Right? It's a little disturbing knowing that, somewhere among all that, is a ridiculous amount of CSAM. let's spend a lot of time posting about this
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sips Coke hm. not as interesting as reading Borges. closes thread
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