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Apr 25, 2006

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I would love the LA Rams. And/or the Falcons if someone claims the Rams or no one claims the Falcons

Actually, just put me down for the Rams

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Apr 25, 2006

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We're still doing rounds 1 through 3, correct?

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Apr 25, 2006

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ShakeZula posted:

Here are the picks threads from the last couple of years:

2023
2022
2021

There's some built-in error just because of no trades, but I think we generally get the broad strokes pretty close.

Huh I could've sworn I did 2021 as well, guess not. Maybe I did 2020 and 2022.

Some embarrassing misses on there for me tbh. Best pick was probably getting Zach Tom at pick 79, and I did grab Sauce Gardner real high up and Alec Pierce in the second which I'm kind of okay with. zimbomonkey taking CJ Stroud for the Panthers at first overall is a tantalizing what-if and basically proves him a better talent evaluator than the Panthers themselves.

Still, it's actually cool to see these, bit of a reality check to be honest at how many players end up doing just about nothing in the NFL. Either out of the league, or in the league but just have barely played or haven't played well. Some guys names I don't even recognize.

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Apr 25, 2006

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ShakeZula posted:

JJ McCarthy just wins games, and that trend generally continues in the NFL

Yeah the best quarterback in the NFL was a proven winner and *holds earpiece* actually I am being informed that he went 13-19 in college

All kidding aside I really like what everyone's done so far. Not only looks realistic but has some interesting deviations from the media hivemind that I think make a ton of sense.

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Apr 25, 2006

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Came oh so close to taking Byron Young, and I think he's gonna be an amazing pro plus he has all the badonadonk

Also briefly considered Penix as Stafford's eventual successor, but that's a bit too silly at this point even for me.

Wiggins is gonna be a dude, I truly believe he will be the best cornerback in this draft. Great in off zone but can press too, very good plant and drive, fast feet, flips his hips in an instant, only 20 years old and nearly 6'2, very fast and athletic. He's very very sticky down the field and he trusts his speed so he never gives up too much space. Rams did pick up two CBs in free agency but Williams is 31 and Tre'davious White is frequently injured and no spring chicken himself. I don't really believe in the younger corners the Rams mostly played last year, so this is a pick for a foundational player that will hopefully be a key part of the defense for years to come.

If I had to criticize he can get a bit tall in his stem and lose drive because of it, and he has pretty short arms for his size. But I think the positives far outweigh those negatives. Edge and DT, and maybe O line are probably bigger needs but I just didn't love my options here apart from Young.

Can't wait to see where it goes from here!

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Apr 25, 2006

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Docjowles posted:

Mostly Russ needs a time machine back 4 or 5 years

the scientific geniuses who invented nanobubbles are working very hard on that, thank you

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Apr 25, 2006

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Quiet Feet posted:

I'm going to bed. Will probably make my pick tomorrow afternoon.

Who's a super talented guy who committed crimes that made him fall and will make everyone mad that the Eagles somehow get him?

Actually now that you mention it, doesn't seem like there's any of the so called 'low character' guys who hit a woman or got a DUI or whatever in this draft. I feel like usually there's at least one

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Apr 25, 2006

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Yeah I loved Nate Wiggins so much had to go with him more for my own satisfaction than anything else, but in reality if Murphy is still there at 19 then I think the Rams take him. He's an incredible player and him paired with Kobie Turner would make for one of the best pass rushing D tackle duos in the NFL if nothing else. He's a really, really good prospect and it's also very Eagles to grab him after he dropped a bit further than expected.

Penix to the Vikings is something I don't mind at all, that would be a really fun watch as Jefferson could basically replace Odunze as that go to guy. Will be really interesting to see if he goes before that in reality, right around there, or even later. Think I'd put my money on earlier given that so many teams just need to get someone.

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Apr 25, 2006

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Some people worry that JC Latham is a bit sluggish, with slow feet, and looked better in college than he will in the league. Not helped by the fact that he declined to do the standard athletic tests in the combine and his pro day. You figure there must be a reason for that so I get where they're coming from.

Really depends on what you want him for, and if there were a perfect team for him, it would be the Ravens. The team that drafted Daniel Faalele and Orlando Brown Jr. They love their big dudes and their running scheme makes it work for them, they're not trying to get their tackles running all over the field.

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kiimo posted:

Feel like I heard that about Trent Williams

Trent Williams lit up the combine big time where Latham was a DNP. Trent was also like 40 pounds lighter coming out.

That's assuming google is correct, is JC Latham really 360 pounds? If so drat that's a big ole boi

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Apr 25, 2006

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Grozz Nuy posted:

All the other consensus first round O-linemen and DBs were off the board, and I didn't love the fit of the D-linemen available either, so without the ability to trade I made the best of what was left. I do think Guyton can work in Shanahan's zone blocking scheme though, and he could start out on the right side during the last year or two of Trent Williams' run and potentially move to the left side depending on how he adapts to the pros.

I like the pick, Guyton is a really good prospect

EmbryoSteve posted:

This looks not bad as far as "professional mockers" are concerned

Biggest reach is Jags picking powers at 17

I think the biggest reach is probably Chop Robinsion. But that was the result of a failure to make a pick on in time so well done to us, premature back patting for our genius

Biggest faller probably Jared Verse or JC Latham. Either could easily go in the top ten/fifteen.

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Apr 25, 2006

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Goons: just give me all the tackles. Please and thank you

A Sneaker Broker posted:

My guy should be here at 41. Moving nicely here.

The suspense is killing me

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Apr 25, 2006

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for a second I thought Worthy had disclosed to the press that he does not, in fact, participate in butt stuff

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A Sneaker Broker posted:

My next pick is gonna be a reach but it may not look that way by the end of the year.

Reaches are more fun, I think, because you're really planting your flag on that guy becoming a success more than expected.

As opposed to following big board/mock draft groupthink. Which is fine, but it's cool to put yourself out there imo

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Apr 25, 2006

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Will pick shortly, once I'm back at a computer

a patagonian cavy posted:

he was made team captain. the bengals loving love players like that.

I hate players like that. Nobody ever made ME a team captain :colbert:

e: Really wanted to go edge or DT here for the Rams, that being their consensus biggest positions of need. But I just couldn't find the value. This DT class sucks rear end after the first couple guys, maybe I should've gone Byron Young in the first but so be it. The edge rusher class is also really, really underwhelming so I think looking for a project a bit later on makes the most sense. Legette is one of 'my guys' in this draft, I think he's got all the potential in the world even though he's far from a finished product. Set THE fastest running speed in all of college football this past season when he took a slant to the house against Mississippi State and made the entire defense look like they were trudging through a swamp. Strong hands at the catch point despite a few concentration drops. Pretty simple route tree, and needs to work on his breaks where he tends to round things out sometimes and runs lazy routes.

But, I think the Rams need another true outside receiver with Kupp getting pretty old and frequently injured, and the other options being Tutu Atwell and Demarcus Robinson, both entering contract years. And I think this guy will end up being a steal and will play in the league for a long time assuming he can stay healthy.

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Apr 25, 2006

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a patagonian cavy posted:

really? that’s surprising.

ruuuuuuuude

Quiet Feet posted:

God dammit. I thought he was far enough down on boards that I didn't even need to bother to check.

Eeny meeny miny... this guy!



i like him, he's sticky. not literally. well maybe he is, ive never met him

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Apr 25, 2006

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Cavauro posted:

shweet picks

I really appreciate your positivity, but also I would like to know if the best player is STILL on the board

By the way, nice pick!

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Apr 25, 2006

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xbilkis posted:

I was thinking about taking Jenkins or another DT but everything I read about the second tier DTs was sooooo underwhelming. Like, the Jenkins writeup in The Beast (which has him as the #36 overall prospect!) is all "Well, he's not that big, had unremarkable stats in college, doesn't handle double teams particularly well, doesn't have an advanced pass rush game, and he might not ever have good production in the NFL, but he's got a good motor and an NFL pedigree and he generally knows what he's supposed to be doing"

Yeah it is a very rough DT and Edge class. I read that entry too and I was like man, someone's trying really hard to convince themselves here. Not that he's a bad player, just that in most years there would be more promising/productive prospects at DT3 or wherever they have him.

fwiw I like the Morgan pick, he's a good player and in the opposite way to the DTs, I think he would be further towards the top but there's a lot of good tackle prospects this year

Cavauro posted:

the best player is still on the board. he's up for grabs on the biggest board in the world

are you referring to our lord and savior jesus christ

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Apr 25, 2006

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Great picks. Pearsall I really like and although I haven't watched Beebe I've heard good things

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Apr 25, 2006

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Anderson Koopa posted:

I picked Brooks here because I don't want to pay Rhamondre Stevenson an extension necessarily. Tight End and Tackle are still a need, but when a highly projected RB is available, I have to grab them.

If this was real life I would probably be trading back a lot more, but I have to pick someone.

I was thinking that after the run on linebackers, a run on RBs was likely coming. Just nobody pick the guy I like, please and thank you

Cavauro posted:

but the best player is still on the board

god dammit ill find this guy if its the last thing I do

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Apr 25, 2006

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Anderson Koopa posted:

Shakezula thank you for hosting this, any chance we can take it to 4 rounds?

In the past I think we've taken an informal poll when we get a bit closer, and if there's still enough time to get through it before the real draft. I'll be in support, I love my fourth round flyers.

e: Never mind just realized the Rams have two fifth rounders and FOUR sixth rounders but no fourths. Booooo

No Butt Stuff posted:

I actually waffled on Brooks but I just didn’t want to miss an OT that I liked and end up with a guy who doesn’t ever quite get it after an ACL injury.

But man was it tempting to have him come in and be behind Pacheco for the first half of the season

Well there's still plenty of em left at least

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Apr 25, 2006

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drat was hoping Ruke would last a bit longer. Great pick at that spot, he may easily go second round

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Apr 25, 2006

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I like the Calen Bullock pick. He's cool and fits the Colts so well.

Managed to get another one of the guys I like a whole lot, wouldn't be that surprised if Michael Hall goes much earlier than this in reality. Also wouldn't be surprised if he goes later because apparently there are 'character concerns' despite the fact that no amount of online searching would enlighten me as to what exactly those concerns consist of. Hopefully they aren't serious...

In any case, he's looked at as a bit of a pass rush specialist due to being a bit undersized in terms of weight, but at 6'2.5 and and with 33.5 inch arms, I'm pretty comfortable with his overall size. Better yet, despite playing at 285 for Ohio State he showed up to his pro day at 299, and then proceeded to absolutely dominate the athletic testing. So there's a lot of promise there with being able to fill out and be a three down player. He's got a pretty incredible swim move and is better against the run than you'd think, although definitely has the penetrating style which sometimes works against the run but sometimes creates big voids in the defense, depending on recognition. Pairing him with Kobie Turner and a nose tackle in five man fronts (which the Rams do a lot of, actually) would be great, then take out the nose tackle for obvious passing situations. The only problem being that Kobie Turner technically IS the nose tackle for the Rams, so it would be cool if they could find a bigger, more sturdy guy for that role. I miss Michael Brockers and Sebastian Joseph-Day :(

Definitely has a ways to go, but as a high upside guy who can hopefully benefit from NFL strength training and coaching, pretty happy with this pick. Up until he drunk drives into an amish family of 37 or something

e: Also, he's only 20 years old which is nice. Hasn't hit his athletic peak yet.

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Apr 25, 2006

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Actually why are there 100 picks in the first three rounds? There are five comp picks in the third, which should add up to 101 total with 96 being the normal amount through three rounds. Did some team lose a pick somehow?

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Apr 25, 2006

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ShakeZula posted:

Didn't the Dolphins forfeit a pick for tampering or something?

Oh right, looking it up that's exactly what happened. Not just any pick, their first rounder due to tampering with Tom Brady and Sean Payton.

Personally, I wouldn't tamper either of those guys with a ten foot pole

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Apr 25, 2006

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Sad King Billy posted:

I feel comfortable taking an RB in the 3rd round.

drat, thought I could get away with grabbing him right at the end of the third.

Big fan of the Andru Phillips pick too

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Apr 25, 2006

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why are there so many christian mahoganys from boston college. what did you do cavauro are you fiddling with the fabric of reality again

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Apr 25, 2006

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Sinnott currently the betting favorite for second tight end drafted, getting him at the tail end of the third round seems pretty good in that case. I haven't watched tight end film so no idea if he's good, but only three tight ends in the first three rounds (presumably), is interesting.

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Apr 25, 2006

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ShakeZula posted:

I have the fourth round order ready to go, but I'm torn on whether we call it at the end of the third or just see how far we can get in less than a week

I don't have any more picks after this upcoming late third rounder, so don't really have a dog in the fight but I don't see the harm in letting it continue a bit more. Yeah we might not finish the round but does that really matter?

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Apr 25, 2006

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Well, that's me done and dusted. Extremely happy with how this one turned out for me. Hit positions of need for the Rams and every single player I drafted was a 'my guy' type that I've been excited about for a while. A top flight cornerback with elite movement skills, a wide receiver of the future who I've loved all CFB season, a young, penetrating DT with tons of promise and growth potential, and a somewhat injury-prone flyer at edge with very heavy hands, a good variety of moves and the type of size the team prefers at that position.

The only thing I regret was not taking a running back, thought I could nab them a bit later but after Benson and Wright were taken I didn't see any value at all at the position even at the end of the third round.

Overall, a very fun an illuminating mock draft. Thanks again to ShakeZula, the mic rula, the old skoola, for bringing it to us despite our propensity to trip

Docjowles posted:

Maybe a better question for the main draft thread but I'm curious what's driving that. Most big boards I see Sinnott as like the 5th or 6th rated TE, WAY behind Sanders. Major gap between the betting market and (amateur) evaluators.

Couldn't say, I really haven't done a single thing to evaluate tight ends. But here are the odds from Fanduel, so you must think they know SOMETHING:

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A Sneaker Broker posted:

25. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
41. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
58. Kris Jenkins DT Michigan
88. Mason McCormick OG South Dakota State
91. Jaden Hick S Washington State

The Packers Super Bowl window is now officially wide-rear end open at the moment so we are in "best man available mode." All these guys can come in and either start from day one or rotate into the starting lineup from day one. DeJean will start immediately in the slot. The NFC North is in the doghouse with excellent WR talent everywhere and with Eric Stokes questionable for the 2024-2025, we cut our losses with him and draft our new slot corner. Edgerrin Cooper fills an immediate need as well as our linebacker room is terrible. Quay Walker cannot do everything by himself, and Trent McDuffie is a good role player, so we go get our new starting linebacker, who will play the opposite of Quay. Kris Jenkins will come into our DLine room and develop while rotating in from time to time. His run-stopping ability is amazing and we cannot pass that up after last year's terrible run defense the Packers fielded. I suspect Jeff Hafley will fix this as we convert to a 4-3 defense but Jenkins is welcome in a room with some of the best in the league. Mason McCormick will come in and develop as a guard, but we will start the conversion to center almost immediately, assuming the Packers do not pick up a center in this draft. Sean Rhyan won the starting right guard job this past year, but bringing competition into the room along with solid depth is a must. Finally, Jaden Hicks is the perfect duo partner for McKinney in the backfield. Our safety room is extremely thin as we let go of three of them to free agency. Hicks is a monster also at tackling and blitzing, and Hafley specifically said we will be getting some creative blitz packagers this upcoming season.

Great draft man, really nice. Top tier in DB, LB, Safety and possibly DT. I'm still bigheaded for drafting Sean Rhyan and Zach Tom (or maybe just Tom but I WANTED to draft Rhyan) for who knows what team back in some goon draft, then was tickled when the Packers ended up taking both of them as well, and to see them both as starters is only increasing my unending arrogance. I like how you employed some details about defensive scheme and overall fit.

Honestly I like the Panthers and Patriots drafts that were posted before as well. Since we haven't seen any of these kids play they are all guaranteed starters at this point, but still I'm impressed by the collective goon talent

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Apr 25, 2006

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Darth Brooks posted:

I almost nailed Minnesota's first round. Atlanta's unsolicited Penix pick messed it up.

It's somewhat fun to compare how your picks turned out compared to how the actual draft went. Not in terms of which team but in terms of position. Personally I lost about 11 spots by taking Nate Wiggins at 19, but then gained them all back and then some by taking Legette at 52 when he actually went 32. Therefore I am plus 9.

Later on in the draft it's much easier to gain or lose huge amounts. This is totally pointless since players being taken early or late has no bearing on how good they'll be, but I enjoy it for something to do.

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Apr 25, 2006

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In the end I slightly overdrafted Nate Wiggins by 9 picks (although I still totally believe in him). But, my next three picks were all drafted a lot earlier in reality. Xavier Legette went 20 picks earlier, Michael Hall Jr. went almost a full round earlier, and Jonah Elliss went 23 picks earlier. So a total value of about +53 picks. Pretty drat good

Of course none of that means jack if they end up being terrible players. More importantly, I think I had a much better draft than the Rams did in the real thing. But we'll have to see.

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