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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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you guys know that you can tell Games Workshop to go gently caress themselves and use the same rules with pieces of lint, right? They don't even make good models anymore

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
bit difficult to do that w/ the lore, if you wanna talk to other peeps about it

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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bob dobbs is dead posted:

bit difficult to do that w/ the lore, if you wanna talk to other peeps about it

not really, they built that in by having the two primarchs be destroyed and no one knows anything about them.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the built-in spaces are for your armies, not for talking about other peeps about lore. there's nothing to talk about wrt the second and eleventh

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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bob dobbs is dead posted:

the built-in spaces are for your armies, not for talking about other peeps about lore. there's nothing to talk about wrt the second and eleventh

that's just bad planning

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

ZombyDog posted:

Whamuudes's Top 20 Primarchs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH22mXIcs9s
You'll never guess his number one

It's going to be the one locked up* under the imperial city.

*probably not actually locked up under the imperial city.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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This is Orks is the best. Feed em poo poo and leave em in the dark

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

sharknado slashfic posted:

It's going to be the one locked up* under the imperial city.

*probably not actually locked up under the imperial city.
You don't want to know what goes on under the Imperial City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2y2tvmeA0

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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ZombyDog posted:

You don't want to know what goes on under the Imperial City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2y2tvmeA0

it's 38000 years in the future. The only things left on Terra are the Golden Throne and slave camps

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

it's 38000 years in the future. The only things left on Terra are the Golden Throne and slave camps

It sucks in those too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD_Xh71FrJs

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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the slave camps suck?

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
I’m pretty sure the The war of the false Primarch was more interesting and far bigger than the Babdab war but no one ever talks about it.


Not even Chaos who would be boasting about it all the time but don’t for reasons.

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

A Good Username posted:

Somebody earlier in the thread suggested Aaron Dembski-Bowden as one of the better fiction writers.
This is a fan animation of his novel Helsreach, about the Black Templars during the last War for Armageddon.
It uses the audiobook for the voice work.

Dembski-Bowden has said (on Twitter I think, I don't remember where) he's not supposed to talk about it, but he thinks it's pretty good.

It's also two and a half hours long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WGE1L6WKs

I clicked this and went to a point at random, and it was 49 minutes in: the beginning of Grimaldus' big speech.

:allears: Chaplains are the best.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

Golden cuck chair

Barudak
May 7, 2007

The Tau are great when they're absolutely befuddled NATO commanders shooting dark eldar from extreme long range and wondering why all the kroot who eat dead humans start chanting incomprehensible poo poo like "The Greater Good Protects"

They are less fun when they get turned into "The Imperium but blue" and Im not yet sold on "big titty blue hoof jobs"

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

I can't take the greater good seriously, and the tau by extension, because of Hot Fuzz

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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sharknado slashfic posted:

I can't take the greater good seriously, and the tau by extension, because of Hot Fuzz

The Greater Good!

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

The Greater Good!

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

The Greater Good!

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Mumpy Puffinz posted:

you guys know that you can tell Games Workshop to go gently caress themselves and use the same rules with pieces of lint, right? They don't even make good models anymore

You are nuts, Warhammer models are better than ever





Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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Gripweed posted:

You are nuts, Warhammer models are better than ever







those are cool my dude. I do like what GW makes, but they arent the be all end all of it, just want people to have fun playing a game. I don't play it, I do crossword puzzles

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The joke with the Tau is that in any other sci-fi setting they'd be the bad guys, but in Warhammer 40k they look like the default good guys.

The NATO comparisons are also actually on point, as I said before their doctrine and weapon playstyle with emphasis on range, drone warfare, combined arms and utilitarian equipment makes them closest to modern day first world militaries, while everyone else tends to be various flavours of anachronism and/or sci-fi bullshit. Aesthetically they also have a lot more in common with sleek and utilitarian modern sci-fi designs like Halo. A lot of the appeal is basically 'The only ones in this galaxy trying to act like grown-ups'.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

World Eaters should have stuck with white to complement the skulls

The Bible
May 8, 2010
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:

you guys know that you can tell Games Workshop to go gently caress themselves and use the same rules with pieces of lint, right? They don't even make good models anymore

This is a game?

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
When the Tau meet a new alien species they say "hello, join our empire as a client state where you'll be slotted into our strict caste system where you belong -- at the bottom, obviously, with no possibility of advancement because we are your betters, that's just the natural order of things I think you can agree, but that doesn't mean we're unwilling to let you come along and feed off of whatever scraps we deign to let fall to you. If you say no, we will rain genocide upon genocide on every planet blighted by your species, we will kill you all, man, woman, and child, we will render you and everything you've ever built into ash and pour it out into an uncaring galaxy that will never speak your names and it will be as though you never existed"


This makes them the good guys of the setting, because nobody else offers that first option.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Mumpy Puffinz posted:

The Greater Good!

SHUT IT!

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

sharknado slashfic posted:

World Eaters should have stuck with white to complement the skulls

I'm pretty sure there's a short story somewhere with a World Eaters slave cleaning their armor and finding out that it's still the original white underneath, and the red is just thousands of years of dried blood.

Grimdark!

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog
Deathworlder was pretty good, as far as one-shot Imperial Guard novels are concerned. Lotta good character interactions between the squad, horribly-grody tyranid descriptions, and a thick smearing of hopelessness runs through the book.

As for the bad, plot armor syndrome runs pretty bad here(of the squad, only two of them (and the cultist, but she was never really part of the cast) die and one of them is the guy who never gets any character development/narrative so you see it coming a mile off), and one character in particular (the cultist Lamya) is such a one-dimensional cartoon that they absolutely grind the narrative/atmosphere to a screeching halt whenever they become the focus, which was often.

I'd give it a reccomend if you liked the short story Fall of Malvolion and want to read about space-rambos dealing with a similar "late-stage Tyranid invasion" situation. Also, if you want to read about Catachan poetry.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

William Bear posted:

I'm pretty sure there's a short story somewhere with a World Eaters slave cleaning their armor and finding out that it's still the original white underneath, and the red is just thousands of years of dried blood.

Grimdark!

drat, I bet the world eater was pretty mad about the khorne red patina being rubbed off

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost

ChickenHeart posted:



I'd give it a reccomend if you liked the short story Fall of Malvolion and want to read about space-rambos dealing with a similar "late-stage Tyranid invasion" situation. Also, if you want to read about Catachan poetry.

Is that the one that featured in WD around the time the Tyranids range redesign came out? PoV story from different stages of a Tyranid invasion starting with a squad hunting a suspected murderer that turns out to be a Lictor in a remote building, then during the first wave of vanguard spores the pov character watches a genestealer hop into a future Ford -F150 and instantly mulch the family inside, and finally ending in a nighttime convoy racing to the final bulk landers trying to escape in the rain, but our hero sees the "rain" building up on his windshield is actually wriggling Tyranid spores?. I remember that one being rad, at least to my teenage tastes.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Xun posted:

drat, I bet the world eater was pretty mad about the khorne red patina being rubbed off

Good news on how that slave can help restore the finish!

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Titanicus was pretty good if you like giant mechs and intrigue with the Imperium’s version of OneDrive

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
Now that I'm thinking about it, I think what I like best about the Tyranids is something the writing points at occasionally but never really fully articulates. Humans spent a great deal of their evolutionary history right in the middle of the food chain. We don't ever think about something eating us now, but our ancestors had built up all manner of prey instincts to avoid getting wiped out by lions and terror birds and jaguars and wolves and snakes and rabid marmosets and what have you. We have guns now; it's not a problem.

So tens of thousands of years into the future when you have a ten foot tall metahuman ubermensch in all their hyperethal panoply of future war rock up on a galactic mega predator that doesn't immediately evaporate when they open fire, you know somewhere buried in that chopped up meta brain there's an Australopithecus screaming and looking for a tree. Tyranids reactivate forgotten primal prey instincts and remind humans of where they came from, so to speak.

Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 29, 2024

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
every single faction in 40k eats some peeps except asuryani

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Dr. Red Ranger posted:

Is that the one that featured in WD around the time the Tyranids range redesign came out? PoV story from different stages of a Tyranid invasion starting with a squad hunting a suspected murderer that turns out to be a Lictor in a remote building, then during the first wave of vanguard spores the pov character watches a genestealer hop into a future Ford -F150 and instantly mulch the family inside, and finally ending in a nighttime convoy racing to the final bulk landers trying to escape in the rain, but our hero sees the "rain" building up on his windshield is actually wriggling Tyranid spores?. I remember that one being rad, at least to my teenage tastes.

Yep, that's the one. Deathworlder has a lot of similar "even the air is eating you alive" doomed perspectives; if you squint hard enough you could even consider it a sequel of sorts to the short story.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Dr. Red Ranger posted:

Is that the one that featured in WD around the time the Tyranids range redesign came out? PoV story from different stages of a Tyranid invasion starting with a squad hunting a suspected murderer that turns out to be a Lictor in a remote building, then during the first wave of vanguard spores the pov character watches a genestealer hop into a future Ford -F150 and instantly mulch the family inside, and finally ending in a nighttime convoy racing to the final bulk landers trying to escape in the rain, but our hero sees the "rain" building up on his windshield is actually wriggling Tyranid spores?. I remember that one being rad, at least to my teenage tastes.
No, that story is genuinely rad. Not only for the intentionally jarring pov of helpless dude(s? I forget if it switches) trying desperately to survive and hoping the actually popular factions come to rescue them, but the ending where the Space Marines finally do drop in at the last moment to save the day and just get loving overrun and unceremoniously eaten without making the slightest impact. When the dudes who are supposed to pull some deus ex machina bullshit arrive at the last moment and drop with barely a whimper, that deliberate aversion of how stories like that usually end really drives home that all is lost.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

I always thought space marine chapters were really small, like 1000 actual space marine dudes in the armor

And only 20 chapters so making up new chapters didn't really happen

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
1000ish dudes yes. Sometimes with large asterisks involving the inquisition never getting an accurate count. There were 20 original legions, the ten loyalist ones were broken into the smaller chapters so they wouldn't be as much of a threat if they went rogue. The commonly floated number is that there's roughly a thousand chapters at any one time. Because again, 40k is bad at math. But they built it with plenty of room to make your own.

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Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


The notables are the Space wolves and the Black Templars that just hide thier real numbers when the auditor come knocking

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