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dr_rat posted:Not sure there's any giant big enough that we're looking at getting rid of that would require a cagro ship sized projectile to take down. in english egghead. are we using slingshots or not?
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Cable Guy posted:I've been wondering if perhaps the second power loss may have been a desperate attempt to "re-boot" a system that had come back on line badly after the first recovery. It really seems to start veering when they re-gain power the first time, and the second power loss doesn't seem as total as the first It’s a big 2 stroke direct drive to a single prop. Probably has some bow and stern thrusters but those are for lateral thrust to aid in parking up and not propulsion.
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cumpantry posted:in english egghead. are we using slingshots or not? Yep, when ever you see anyone taller than you just let loose with that sucker and rid the world of their evil giant rear end.
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Would dropping anchor done anything? Not many brake options it seems.
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redshirt posted:I wonder if /how they can get those containers off the ship and not dropping them all in the ocean. When the Ever Forward grounded in the bay a couple years ago they had a couple crane barges unload containers to reduce weight so they could refloat the ship. They won't be able to do that here until they clear the bridge debris, but here the ship should still be floating if they can get it away from the debris, so it's possible they might just be able to tow it back to port.
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listen, we can settle this without insurance getting involved. Here's 100K from the captain's safe, we ok?
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Haptical Sales Slut posted:Would dropping anchor done anything? Not many brake options it seems. They did and it didnt
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Haptical Sales Slut posted:Would dropping anchor done anything? Not many brake options it seems. I believe I heard a correspondent on CBS earlier today say that dropping anchor may not have had enough time to slow the ship down regardless; and even if they did, it may have also just swung the boat and made it hit from port side instead of starboard (or vice versa?).
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I guess they called off the search for the remaining 6 workers that are missing. Only 2 recovered and survived by the looks of it.
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Grey Cat posted:I guess they called off the search for the remaining 6 workers that are missing. Only 2 recovered and survived by the looks of it. Aww, that really sucks. Looking at how quickly and catastrophically the bridge failed, glad they managed to rescue two though.
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dr_rat posted:Aww, that really sucks. Looking at how quickly and catastrophically the bridge failed, glad they managed to rescue two though. Yeah it's really lovely, from what I read it seems like they were both critical condition but one has already been discharged and the other is still in the hospital. (maybe?) I don't imagine they'll find the other 6 until the wreckage is salvaged, probably too dangerous to dive into some of that twisted metal. All sucks.
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It might take a few days before they recover anyone trapped below; underwater structure wreckage is downright terrifying to properly search/dismantle. When the I-35W bridge in Minnesota collapsed back in 2007 it took divers 3 weeks to recover everyone from the Mississippi River: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridge
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500excf type r posted:They did and it didnt primaltrash posted:I believe I heard a correspondent on CBS earlier today say that dropping anchor may not have had enough time to slow the ship down regardless; and even if they did, it may have also just swung the boat and made it hit from port side instead of starboard (or vice versa?). Seems like the only logical thing to do then is mandate big rockets mounted backwards on the front of ships to quick reverse. idk how many people use that bridge daily but if it’s anything like Seattle a single closure fucks traffic for 10 miles in all directions. I wonder how long it will take to rebuild…
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Traffic is going to get worse but not catastrophically so, the bridge carried about 35,000 out of 230,000 daily trips across the harbor.
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Grey Cat posted:Yeah it's really lovely, from what I read it seems like they were both critical condition but one has already been discharged and the other is still in the hospital. (maybe?) 1 left against medical advice, presumably because they are undocumented and/or terrified about the cost of treatment, so not a great outcome on that one.
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Grey Cat posted:Yeah it's really lovely, from what I read it seems like they were both critical condition but one has already been discharged and the other is still in the hospital. (maybe?) I kind of hope that one of those missing road workers was down on their luck, their life was falling apart, and then when they pulled themselves from the water a quarter of a mile down the shore, they realized they had been granted a second chance. Now they're wantering the backroads of America, traveling from town to town making their way by filling in potholes where they can and having weekly adventures where they deal with local hoodlums, corrupt small town politicians, and sometimes imparting important life lessons to a young person they meet, all while being pursued by Department of Transportation inspector determined to track them down.
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Three Olives posted:1 left against medical advice, presumably because they are undocumented and/or terrified about the cost of treatment, so not a great outcome on that one. You are probably right and it’s so loving sad
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:You are probably right and it’s so loving sad A few years ago my husband had a ruptured eardrum and was told he need to follow all the doctor's instruction on care because if he didn't he was in danger of permanent hearing loss (It was really bad) if he didn't take this special antibiotic. So, I go to the grocery store to fill it in our neighborhood I live in a gentrifying neighborhood where you are basically either upper-middle class/rich or poor, there is nothing really in between. Anyways, I go to pick it up and they say hold on, we need to talk to you privately, but I need you to wait a minute so we can check these other people out. I was just like, what the gently caress is this bullshit, whatever. So I wait, and finally they pull me aside and very compassionately and discreetly say "This is a specialty medication, after insurance, it's going to to be, I don't remember but like in the $100 range, do you still want it?" I think that is where it really sunk in how hosed our healthcare system is on like a personal level. Yes, of course I want the medication, no, my husband is not going to lose hearing in one of his ears over $100 with health insurance, WTF?
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I met a harbor pilot who averted a similar crash, I think in Philly, wherein the ship lost engines and was heading towards something disastrous and this fellow averted catastrophe by feet with mere scrapes. Wish I could find the story. The video of the bridge collapsing was honestly shocking.
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ChickenHeart posted:It might take a few days before they recover anyone trapped below; underwater structure wreckage is downright terrifying to properly search/dismantle. it really is just the worst. a bunch of mangled metal that a single bad snag could potentially means the diver also dies. you have to go s l o w. and especially once you're down at the bottom, you cant swirl up a bunch of silt, because again, you lose visibility, you get tangled up in wreckage, and bam, you're dead too.
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GolfHole posted:is the boat ok the bit of roadway draped across its bow looks like it needs resurfacing.
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naem posted:that is a LOT of boat right there well this explains why my order of 1000 rubber dog turds still is showing "in transit"
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Aishlinn posted:it really is just the worst. a bunch of mangled metal that a single bad snag could potentially means the diver also dies. you have to go s l o w. and especially once you're down at the bottom, you cant swirl up a bunch of silt, because again, you lose visibility, you get tangled up in wreckage, and bam, you're dead too. Hey neat it's my new stress nightmare
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Time_pants posted:Hey neat it's my new stress nightmare ahhahahaha imagine underwater salvaging was real hahahha like turn off your monitor
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I could probably captain a ship and be pretty good at it and probably not hit a bridge.
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Based on my experience playing World of Warships I know how long it takes to turn a battleship. Inertia.
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Time_pants posted:Hey neat it's my new stress nightmare It's not that scary! don't worry about the bridge either.
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Time_pants posted:Hey neat it's my new stress nightmare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtbFm_CjE0 Really any of the USCSB videos are a great way to find out that you can die horribly in ways that you have never imagined: https://www.youtube.com/user/USCSB
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mst4k posted:I could probably captain a ship and be pretty good at it and probably not hit a bridge. You may be smart, but you need to remember bridges are always gonna be smarter.
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dr_rat posted:Not sure there's any giant big enough that we're looking at getting rid of that would require a cagro ship sized projectile to take down. There's a post somewhere in the Murphys Rules thread about how a properly constructed D&D 3.5 character can attack by picking up and hurling oil tankers, enchanting them so they return after throwing, and then throw again. They do this with the sole goal of throwing the boat at Cthulhu, on earth, ignoring the range penalties for attacking across light-years. You joke now, but when Torvald the Slinger wins the key to the city, you'll know it could have been you
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Those pilots that come in to navigate the local harbor weirdness by memory are apparently paid a poo poo ton for like 2 miles of work. this is what happens when you hire Sam’s club pilots. Kirkland signature minimum, idiots.
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mst4k posted:I could probably captain a ship and be pretty good at it and probably not hit a bridge. How can you captain a ship if you never hit the bridge?
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Captain to the bridge! No not that bridge!
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Haptical Sales Slut posted:Those pilots that come in to navigate the local harbor weirdness by memory are apparently paid a poo poo ton for like 2 miles of work. Oh yeah, you make bank as a pilot. Takes many years of training and experience and if you want to work in a specific port you probably need to have gone to school nearby or have some kind of in. But then you're working something like six days on, six days off schedule and the master probably knows what he's doing anyways so you might get to just sit there. Some captains are also pilots for a region the ship so at a certain spot in the voyage he just starts making extra money for doing the same job. Or I could be wrong, it's been a while and rumours and all that. I've also heard that back in the days of yore if the pilot crashed the ship the owner was allowed to hang them, because there was a scheme of pilots wrecking ships near towns so locals could salvage the cargo.
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