Mafia-Pilkki: Rolefishing on ice

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Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

CubicalSucrose posted:

It was also a bit weird to try and double-submit Salmon.

Was that Tmor?

# ? Apr 11, 2024 22:05

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# ? May 6, 2024 08:38

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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Did you guys forgot I replaced in for Salad... They caught all salmon 😞

# ? Apr 12, 2024 00:25

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Are we really going to drag this out for another day

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:04

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

b-minus1 posted:

Are we really going to drag this out for another day

I�m fuckin� saying

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:13

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

b-minus1 posted:

Are we really going to drag this out for another day

Just finished my hot tub and sauna, which means it's time for: *drumroll* fish math.

Sauna was a bit more intense than normal, unsure why, so I might be a bit slow.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:17

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Shellception posted:

List of claims for ease of checking:

King of the Lake: 15224g - Sandwolf (shot Opop)
Goldfish 1410g - Shell (fishcopped Beet: no first prizes, sausages as second prize)
Salmon 6182g - shwinn (forgot to use)
Roach 734g - Cube (watched meen and saw beet visit)
Pike 1497g - unclaimed
Perch 487g - Maer (roleblock Zoya, success)
Whitefish 377g - unclaimed, but pretty probably Meen (masoned me, successful but partner dead)
Zander 1476g - unclaimed

Beet: Second Prize Roach (confirmed by Goldfish)
Plas: Second Prize Pike
Hal: No Prize Salmon and Roach
TMor: No Prize Salmon and Salmon
Zoya: No Prize Zander and Perch (pretty probably a lie)

One of Iggy or Opop either had an unclaimed Second Prize Salmon or the First Prize Pike/Zander.

Shell's N1 summary.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:18

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Shellception posted:

List of claims for ease of checking:

King of the Lake: 15224g - Sandwolf (shot Opop)
Goldfish 1410g - Shell (fishcopped Beet: no first prizes, sausages as second prize)
Salmon 6182g - shwinn (forgot to use)
Roach 734g - Cube (watched meen and saw beet visit)
Pike 1497g - unclaimed
Perch 487g - Maer (roleblock Zoya, success)
Whitefish 377g - unclaimed, but pretty probably Meen (masoned me, successful but partner dead)
Zander 1476g - unclaimed

Beet: Second Prize Roach (confirmed by Goldfish)
Plas: Second Prize Pike
Hal: No Prize Salmon and Roach
TMor: No Prize Salmon and Salmon
Zoya: No Prize Zander and Perch (pretty probably a lie)

One of Iggy or Opop either had an unclaimed Second Prize Salmon or the First Prize Pike/Zander.

Illusionis posted:

The winning fish for today are:
King of the Lake: 15224g
Goldfish 1410g
Salmon 6182g
Roach 734g
Pike 1497g
Perch 487g
Whitefish 377g
Zander 1476g

Night 1 has started You have a little under 24 hours to submit night actions, please have them in by 11pm UTC+3 Thursday if you can.

The fish will be judged in the order of: King of the Lake, Goldfish, Salmon, Roach, Pike, Perch, Whitefish and Zander. First place prizes will be judged first and once a player has won a prize they will be ineligible to win for the rest of the day.

Shell's fish list looks right and is in the proper order.

Sand's claim:

Sandwolf posted:

I shot Opop with the boon I got from kingfish

Shell's claim:

Shellception posted:

I definitely buy this.

Also who on gently caress NKs Iggy, he plays like a game every two months :V.

I was ready to barge in like "Opop is telling the truth" butttt guess what, he was. Lol.

I something-copped Clo with the boon I got from the Goldfish. And then I got emoji on my confessional, so I assume she's the one who subbed out. Em, Beet? Wanna claim anything?

Maer's claim:

Maerlyn posted:

I had the bestest perch (roleblock) which I used on Zoya. I did get "action successful" so assuming no shenanigans Zoya didn't do the kill.

I think Cube and Plas are highest on my list of possible scum.

Since Hal got stolen-from, this suggests a couple things:
1) Zoya's fish-thief was NOT a night action, it was a twilight action.
2) Zoya "could theoretically have attempted to do a thing" N1 beyond just stealing from Hal.

Shwinn's claim:

shwinnebego posted:

sorry everyone i got a doc power but i was tied up almost the entire last 24 hours with a guest and series of events and poo poo and didn't submit a night action

i'm gonna tell myself i probly wouldn't have protected opop and meen anyway

Cube's claim:

CubicalSucrose posted:

I got Watcher, Watched Iggy, Hambeet was the only visitor.

##vote Hambeet

Beet's sausage claim:

hambeet posted:

claim my sausages? they are 11% meat apparently, which seems a bit on the low side.

i'm playing a bit of catch up, so idk what you're asking?

clo fished yesterday (scored roaches) turned one in, but didn't win. hence the sausages.

Shell claiming the masonry thing from N1 (could be a lie, maybe, note to self remember to consider this):

Shellception posted:

No. But there are three unclaimed fish D1: Whitefish, Zander and Pike. I think Meen tried to mason me because I got a result that my masonbud was dead - that takes off the Whitefish.

So Opop could have either Zander or Pike, but the other is with scum. Claiming fake Pike (track) results made way more sense than claiming fake Zander (random) results. Therefore I think Opop died with the Pike (if he had anything) and the unclaimed Zander went to scum.

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So:
- No Pike N1 claimed. (one of Zoya, Hal, TMor, Plastic, Opop)
- No Zander N1 claimed. (one of Zoya, Hal, TMor, Plastic, Opop)
- Hal -> Salmon + Roach, no second prize.
--- (Cube 1st Roach, Clo/Beet 2nd Roach, Hal no Roach).
--- Shwinn 1st Salmon, no second Salmon.
- So, second Salmon consolation N1 needs to have been (one of Zoya, Hal, TMor, Plastic, Opop).
- TMor -> Salmon, no second prize. (No new info).

I think I'm only seeing 3 fish that necessarily have gone unclaimed?
- Assume Zoya had one
- Assume Opop had one
- So one of (Hal, TMor, Plastic) is lying about a N1 result?

Time to check what Shell's conclusion had been to see if we match.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:37

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Shellception posted:

Ok so, let's see if this tracks - I have a big spreadsheet but I'd like to simplify, if possible.

Turns out there are four missing fish D1, and not three like we thought there was.

Whitefish - assumed Meen (was used to mason me but used died)
Pike
Zander
Second Place Salmon

This means that, regardless what Opop had, and regardless what Zoya had (I assume she did lie about her fish, but she claimed No Prize Zander and Perch), there forcibly is one more fish missing.

Which in turn means that people who had a fish, no matter if they used it or not (looking at shwinbinus) can't be lying because that generates a situation where there are two liars, them and the person who got what they claimed.

Which in turn, unless I am wrong somewhere,i means the liar is again corralled between Plastic, Hal, Tmor.

Cube? Or anyone? Thoughts?

Yeah okay, Hal/Plastic/TMor, this aligns. (I guess it theoretically could've been Opop with the masonizer and not Iggy, but that doesn't change anything).

Will only vote amongst those three today.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:39

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Plastic and TMor, what are your special fishing-related mechanic things?

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:49

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Votecount for Day 4

Sandwolf (2): b-minus1, PlasticAutomaton

Tired Moritz (2): Sandwolf, Shellception

b-minus1 (0): Sandwolf, ~~Sandwolf~~

Not Voting (3): CubicalSucrose, Hal Incandenza, Tired Moritz

With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2024 at 11 p.m. EEST -- that's in about 1 day, 19 hours.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:49

PlasticAutomaton: Nov 12, 2016; Artoria Pendonut

I know where the Pike are. And have so far failed to catch a single good one.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 01:58

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

If fish math is legit, which it has seemed to me to be so far, I would need some good reasoning to vote Plastic over TMor

# ? Apr 12, 2024 02:00

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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I have leads on the highest rates on salmon.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 03:34

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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PlasticAutomaton posted:

I know where the Pike are. And have so far failed to catch a single good one.

????? How

# ? Apr 12, 2024 03:35

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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Actually nevermind I can't even get a salmon lmao

# ? Apr 12, 2024 03:39

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Also, I think it's maybe reasonable for everyone who knows fish probabilities to share them broadly now?

ScumZoya had 2 items. ScumCloBeet had 4 items. Let's assume that the other scum had 2 items.

That's 8 bribes over 3 nights as free actions, and (supposing accurate fishmath) scum had one player that started with knowing about (one of the fish).

I guess scum could lie about what they know.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 03:48

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

b-minus1 posted:

Tracked hal last night. He went nowhere
Plastic roleblocked sandwolf last night. He hasn�t posted in the masonry yet today but given that there was no kill, I think it�s safe to say that his roleblock was successful.

I can�t imagine scum withholding a kill at this point in the game.

Sandwolf resisted the beet vote. He voted tm over zoya yesterday and is still pushin tm today. he�s currently voting me (a townie).

##vote sandwolf

Shellception posted:

Binus visited Hal, for what that is worth.

Shellception posted:

And no one else did, either. So b- didn't try to stab Hal.

Plastic - I assume binus claimed they were going to track Hal before the night started, correct?

I was considering a wild scenario where binus poisoned Hal last night and that's why there were no deaths, but that doesn't quite work since binus had correct info about Hal (or would've had to guess/make it up...or there are four scum).

So if there was a poison, it was TMor who did it. I do think it's a lot more likely that there was either a withhold or a blocked attempt to kill Shell.

(also, for completeness) ALTERNATE EXPLANATION for N1 results: Mod error.

Of the three N1 plausible fishmath liars, last night:
Hal went nowhere, confirmed. Plastic actually rb'd Sand, confirmed by Sand. TMor unaccounted for.

I think I'll be hard-pressed to vote not-TMor today.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 04:19

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

CubicalSucrose posted:

Plastic - I assume binus claimed they were going to track Hal before the night started, correct?

I was considering a wild scenario where binus poisoned Hal last night and that's why there were no deaths, but that doesn't quite work since binus had correct info about Hal (or would've had to guess/make it up...or there are four scum).

So if there was a poison, it was TMor who did it. I do think it's a lot more likely that there was either a withhold or a blocked attempt to kill Shell.

(also, for completeness) ALTERNATE EXPLANATION for N1 results: Mod error.

Of the three N1 plausible fishmath liars, last night:
Hal went nowhere, confirmed. Plastic actually rb'd Sand, confirmed by Sand. TMor unaccounted for.

I think I'll be hard-pressed to vote not-TMor today.

Er, before the night ended.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 04:19

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

PlasticAutomaton posted:

I know where the Pike are. And have so far failed to catch a single good one.

Tired Moritz posted:

I have leads on the highest rates on salmon.

I know where the Perch are and same, haven't got a big one all game.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 05:23

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Shellception posted:

I know where the Perch are and same, haven't got a big one all game.

I know about Zanders, and also have not got a decent one all game! It's a trick!

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:26

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Tired Moritz posted:

Did you guys forgot I replaced in for Salad... They caught all salmon 😞

But... you replaced in before the first fishing results even happened...

Tired Moritz posted:

Can someone simplify the gimmick of the game

Maerlyn posted:

Sorry to the thread for the trip down memory lane, but it's better than fish math by far

I'm also waiting for fish results, so get to fishin people

Does anyone fish irl? Animal Crossing and Stardew Valley don't count. I think I went a couple times as a kid but I didn't (don't) like to touch worms or fish.

Cloacamazing! posted:

Oh hey, first fishing results are in. For the rest of you too?

... though I guess the first batch of three fishing spots could have been submitted by Salad, that's true.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:36

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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Yup they were all submitted by salad. All in to pool C

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:46

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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##vote Sandwolf

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:46

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Votecount for Day 4

Sandwolf (2): b-minus1, PlasticAutomaton

Tired Moritz (2): Sandwolf, Shellception

b-minus1 (0): Sandwolf, ~~Sandwolf~~

Not Voting (3): CubicalSucrose, Hal Incandenza, Tired Moritz

With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2024 at 11 p.m. EEST -- that's in about 1 day, 14 hours.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:51

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Ep. That didn't refresh.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:52

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Votecount for Day 4

Sandwolf (3): b-minus1, PlasticAutomaton, Tired Moritz

Tired Moritz (2): Sandwolf, Shellception

b-minus1 (0): Sandwolf, ~~Sandwolf~~

Not Voting (2): CubicalSucrose, Hal Incandenza

With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2024 at 11 p.m. EEST -- that's in about 1 day, 14 hours.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 06:53

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Sand at -1, Moritz at -2. I'm not moving today, tbh, because...?

b-minus1 posted:

Are we really going to drag this out for another day

# ? Apr 12, 2024 07:01

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

It would seem ##vote TM makes the most sense with what we know�

# ? Apr 12, 2024 07:19

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

�

# ? Apr 12, 2024 15:59

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Shell - any reason I shouldn't hammer TMor?

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:02

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

CubicalSucrose posted:

Shell - any reason I shouldn't hammer TMor?

I don't think so. Unless anyone wants to comment on reads or plans and hasn't had time in the last 24h I guess?

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:06

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Fishhhhhhhtwilight.

##vote TMor

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:07

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Noooooooooo, goodbye Tired Moritz!

Votecount for Day 4

Tired Moritz (4): Sandwolf, Shellception, Hal Incandenza, CubicalSucrose

Sandwolf (3): b-minus1, PlasticAutomaton, Tired Moritz

b-minus1 (0): Sandwolf, ~~Sandwolf~~

Not Voting (0):

With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 13th, 2024 at 11 p.m. EEST -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:07

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

I'd have given fish facts but I've kinda been on a bad mood today (unrelated to game).

I think if we hosed up, my next question mark would be Plastic according to the fish logic, or Sand to test the roleblock hypothesis, but I'm willing to listen to everyone else if so. I don't think Plas sounds scum at all, and if it's Hal lol, lmao.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:09

Shellception: Oct 12, 2016; "I'm made up of the memories of my parents and my grandparents, all my ancestors. They're in the way I look, in the colour of my hair. And I'm made up of everyone I've ever met who's changed the way I think"

Oops. Sorry.

# ? Apr 12, 2024 16:09

Illusionis: Dec 12, 2011

Tired Moritz Myrsky Toivonen, scum-aligned fisher has been eliminated

Town has won the game

Proper flips and pms for the living players will be on saturday because I'm out with some friends at the moment

# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:10

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

See Shell!! You can read me v well!

Hal, c�mahn

# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:19

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

I knew tm was scum

# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:21

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

Time to knock off some of that rust binus!

# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:22

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# ? May 6, 2024 08:38

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Yeah it�s not going well so far lol

Part of me just didn�t want to believe that tm was scum because it would be a lame way to end the game. Seeing you lunched and flip town would have been more exciting. Even though tm would have prolly been lunched the next day

# ? Apr 12, 2024 17:24

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