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if your support model is "maybe corporations will feel guilty and write me a check" then you are a loving idiot sorry ffmpeg dudes but thats a stupid position to be in and you are entirely at fault for putting yourself there.
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graph posted:https://x.com/FFmpeg/status/1775178803129602500 lol get hosed microsoft
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rotor posted:if your support model is "maybe corporations will feel guilty and write me a check" then you are a loving idiot they asked for a support contract. i don't think that's unreasonable
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rotor posted:if your support model is "maybe corporations will feel guilty and write me a check" then you are a loving idiot i dont think they were expecting a check rotor. it says m$ft offered to cut them a check and they said no
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like i know trolling is commonplace in yospos but im freakin tired of it
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if the bug is "high priority" because ffmpeg is used "in a highly visible product at microsoft", microsoft should get someone on that and submit a patch
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fart simpson posted:i dont think they were expecting a check rotor. it says m$ft offered to cut them a check and they said no did anyone tell them money can be exchanged for goods and services
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Beeftweeter posted:they asked for a support contract. i don't think that's unreasonable i dont either, and msft said no
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rotor posted:i dont either, and msft said no well then their bug will be dealt with as all other bugs in ffmpeg are. considering they pissed off the main developers i think ms should really get someone to write a patch lol
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fun thing about that ffmpeg bug thread: "Elon Musk" provides the workaround in the comments
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Beeftweeter posted:well then their bug will be dealt with as all other bugs in ffmpeg are. considering they pissed off the main developers i think ms should really get someone to write a patch lol idk its late and i dont have the time to draw a diagram of why this situation is so illustrative of a larger issue, please consult my open source manifesto thread for more details
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i mean, if they want priority bug fixes i don't think it's unreasonable that the ffmpeg team asked for a contract for that. since ms declined, it'll be dealt with as if anyone submitted it. and i don't think that's unfair either ms definitely has the resources for someone to patch ffmpeg to fix the issue too. so if it's that high priority, they should get someone they're already paying to fix it, and submit the patch to ffmpeg. that's how it's supposed to work and is fair enough imo
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that said i wonder what "high visibility" product they're talking about. maybe edge?
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Beeftweeter posted:that said i wonder what "high visibility" product they're talking about. maybe edge? it says right there in the ticket. it was some sort of captioning for teams meetings
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fart simpson posted:it says right there in the ticket. it was some sort of captioning for teams meetings oh i didn't actually look at the ticket lol. my dns blocks t.co redirects
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fart simpson posted:it says right there in the ticket. it was some sort of captioning for teams meetings oh god, not the captioning for teams meetings
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why does teams need to convert subtitle formats anyway? if microsoft has full control over how teams works then they should just have it use the subtitle format they want it in to begin with
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it's specifically about stuff that's been encoded using NTSC style line 608 closed captions being incidentally transmitted in a stream of SEI packets alongside the video, which sounds like it's being sent to each Teams client as a content sharing thing and not that something on the other end is generating normal captions on the fly writing an NTSC decoder specifically for Teams when there's some way to force ffmpeg to do conversion to .srt format in that case just seems really dumb and bad
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Beeftweeter posted:if the bug is "high priority" because ffmpeg is used "in a highly visible product at microsoft", microsoft should get someone on that and submit a patch yeah this seems like the right thing to do, to submit a patch and then bing bong you’ve improved ffmpeg for everyone. but lol microsoft
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MS wouldn't even need to submit the patch - just run their own changed version. But also bad negotiating by ffmpeg - just tell MS to add a few more zeroes to the "one-time payment of a few thousand dollars" for fixing that specific issue. Like, there's a prize point beyond which you'd be a fool to decline. I'd fix a bug for 50k$.
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Beeftweeter posted:lol get hosed microsoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ozaFbqg00
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the take cannot possibly be "this would be workable if companies stopped asking us to do things" Hahahaha Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Close Your Eyes Haha.
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Kazinsal posted:it's specifically about stuff that's been encoded using NTSC style line 608 closed captions being incidentally transmitted in a stream of SEI packets alongside the video, which sounds like it's being sent to each Teams client as a content sharing thing and not that something on the other end is generating normal captions on the fly who the gently caress is still using line 608 captions
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atsc captions include eia-608 captions in addition to the newer textual ones because all digital video technologies just lump new layers on top of the previous era's standards no clue why the gently caress teams would be using them though
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Beeftweeter posted:well then their bug will be dealt with as all other bugs in ffmpeg are. considering they pissed off the main developers i think ms should really get someone to write a patch lol it looks like someone immediately gave them a workaround. so who got owned here?
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Plorkyeran posted:atsc captions include eia-608 captions in addition to the newer textual ones because all digital video technologies just lump new layers on top of the previous era's standards yeah, i meant in software. it doesn't make any sense unless you have teams getting raw atsc input somehow luckily i don't use teams all that often so i don't know if it has that capability. i guess you could use a tv tuner input device, but i'd think if it does on-device conversion of mpeg-2 then the captions either get stripped or converted. if it's a stream dump like you'd get from a cable box via firewire then idk how it'd get to teams
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Plorkyeran posted:atsc captions include eia-608 captions in addition to the newer textual ones because all digital video technologies just lump new layers on top of the previous era's standards going to guess it is a server-side video transcode thing that integrates with whatever else. probably willing to play almost any old junk on a sharepoint.
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Beeftweeter posted:who the gently caress is still using line 608 captions *raises paw*
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graph posted:incorrect tusen takk is absolutely fat32 shamer lol
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Captain Foo posted:tusen takk is absolutely fat32 shamer lol getting kalstrams and tusen mixed up 
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if you change your name and av here, I for one will respect that choice and instantly forget who you used to be.
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I prefer variations on a theme, like post hole diggers ‘punished eventually I’ll put a santa hat on this halloween version of my blue deer av
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rotor posted:if you change your name and av here, I for one will respect that choice and instantly forget who you used to be.  (e) also :Jonny 290 posted:yep. though its not intentional. i just have potato noggin Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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rotor posted:if you change your name and av here, I for one will respect that choice and instantly forget who you used to be. yep. though its not intentional. i just have potato noggin
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rotor posted:if you change your name and av here, I for one will respect that choice and instantly forget who you used to be.
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i will forget who you used to be even if you don't change your name or av
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i won't forget who you are because i'm jia tan and the purpose of my xz backdoor is specifically to monitor goons for name changes
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