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Fun legal day coming today. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1783498426950308048?t=-06dYakhovUxiVfchRKjCA&s=19 https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1783488213413200342?t=bwT6NzSY6m0LoAeuUTlI8Q&s=19 Weinstein's not going anywhere though, as he still has a 16-year California conviction, so it's very dumb, but harmless.
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There were five bulk cargo vessels stranded outside of Baltimore due to the bridge collapse. There are now four. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1783494964174864564?t=-BjsJVYOP8IS212yeZGW7g&s=19
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Apr 25, 2024 15:18
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great news for sex arse enjoyers
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facialimpediment posted:Fun legal day coming today. This is always a weird line of questioning because killing people based on political disagreements is one of the things we unquestionably give presidents immunity for. How many tens of millions of people did the US help murder because of "communism" or "pan-islamism" since every president starting with Eisenhower? AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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I took "opponent" as domestic political opponent.
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Defenestrategy posted:I took "opponent" as domestic political opponent. Yeah it's that, domestic coups. https://twitter.com/StephenGutowski/status/1783509303321677897?t=t8ZA2BH2rcumQBd1aQJP8A&s=19 https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1783516801264984204?t=qE_uacF6FQ18JaxkCnBJlQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1783504303044317420?t=bWe6_DNkVeSVNROxFAUogg&s=19 But naturally, the Republicans are likely to punt the whole thing back down to the district court again to make "official act" analysis which would basically guarantee J6 doesn't go to trial before election day when Donnie reappeals that junk.
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Apr 25, 2024 16:25
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facialimpediment posted:Yeah it's that, domestic coups. Are they trying the Air Bud defense? The law doesn't say the president can't assassinate his domestic political rival 
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facialimpediment posted:But naturally, the Republicans are likely to punt the whole thing back down to the district court again to make "official act" analysis which would basically guarantee J6 doesn't go to trial before election day when Donnie reappeals that junk. This is what I expect. "Oh sure it looks pretty straightforward but if you have polarized lenses and squint real hard then look at it under the light of the blue moon on a Tuesday while turning in the widening gyre the question of whether Fnerdistan v. Blargle the Third applies is ambiguous and at this juncture we just can't rule
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bird food bathtub posted:This is what I expect. "Oh sure it looks pretty straightforward but if you have polarized lenses and squint real hard then look at it under the light of the blue moon on a Tuesday while turning in the widening gyre the question of whether Fnerdistan v. Blargle the Third applies is ambiguous and at this juncture we just can't rule Then, there's Alito, who is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is, so everything is just "gently caress you, Republicans win only" https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1783521814758433212?t=iwiyniJeaVVTJOCTLGCyVg&s=19
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facialimpediment posted:Then, there's Alito, who is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is, so everything is just "gently caress you, Republicans win only" ya fuckin think?
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ASAPI posted:Are they trying the Air Bud defense? The law doesn't say the president can't assassinate his domestic political rival There is some logic here: https://x.com/stephengutowski/status/1783506213700841777?s=46 …then it goes completely off the rails
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Apr 25, 2024 17:13
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Welcome to the end of the republic everyone!
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Grip it and rip it posted:Welcome to the end of the republic everyone! The Republic ended when the attempt was made unanswered. Existential threats to societal order have to be met with decisive for e, not litigation. Everything after that, to include institutional methods to attempt to suppress the insurrection movement, are just institutional death throes. Still, things might stumble along for a generation or two if things don't fall apart right away.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Star Wars quote gets ban "It's-a clear desa separatists made a pact wesa desa Federation du Trade. Senators, "dellow felagates." In response to this direct threat to the Republic, mesa propose that the senate give immediately emergency powers to the Supreme Chancellor."
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A.o.D. posted:The Republic ended when the attempt was made unanswered. Existential threats to societal order have to be met with decisive for e, not litigation. Everything after that, to include institutional methods to attempt to suppress the insurrection movement, are just institutional death throes. Still, things might stumble along for a generation or two if things don't fall apart right away. Was watching it live and texting with my brother and we both were like "those dudes gon die the second they kick down a door." And nope.
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Apr 25, 2024 17:52
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stealie72 posted:Glad to hear I'm not the only one whose brain was so Clancy/Bay poisoned that I was in utter shock the insurrection wasn't machine gunned down the second they breached the capital doors. And now they're yelling about the one insurrectionist that did get domed and pushing all the injured/killed cops under the rug. And here's the supreme court we have in the meantime: https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1783540206336942216?t=yqtA1LRyhVGssLuimYeX7w&s=19
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stealie72 posted:Glad to hear I'm not the only one whose brain was so Clancy/Bay poisoned that I was in utter shock the insurrection wasn't machine gunned down the second they breached the capital doors. The cops were on their side until badges started getting squished in doors and half of the other people in the Capitol that day were supporters of the coup attempt.
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Defenestrategy posted:I took "opponent" as domestic political opponent. Because foreign political opponents are fair game? That sounds like an argument that presidents are allowed to arbitrarily murder people over there, but not over here.
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The supreme court is flat-out busted and has been for a while, but boy howdy this really shows just how hosed it is. In a 6-3 decision, Trump is completely immune to any and all prosecution,
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stealie72 posted:Glad to hear I'm not the only one whose brain was so Clancy/Bay poisoned that I was in utter shock the insurrection wasn't machine gunned down the second they breached the capital doors. No, Trump called the National Guard, and Haley stopped it, remember? Also, something, something, DC Police.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Because foreign political opponents are fair game? That sounds like an argument that presidents are allowed to arbitrarily murder people over there, but not over here. Well the constitution doesn't apply "Over there" so there are a lot of legal distinctions that exist in those circumstances. But generally yes the President has and will continue to kill certain classes of foreign political opponents as part of their job. Zamujasa posted:The supreme court is flat-out busted and has been for a while, but boy howdy this really shows just how hosed it is. I don't think they're going to grant Trump's immunity claim on this case. It's too loving stupid to fathom.
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Grip it and rip it posted:Well the constitution doesn't apply "Over there" so there are a lot of legal distinctions that exist in those circumstances. But generally yes the President has and will continue to kill certain classes of foreign political opponents as part of their job. There was only one possible ray of light here: quote:In response to questions from Justice Barrett, Trump lawyer John Sauer agreed the following were private acts: Or in a talking head viewpoint: https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1783540106952913239 So in the non-hellworld, the justices make up some dumb poo poo to delay things: presidential official act immunity. That delays things a bit, but doesn't kill off the prosecution, as everyone seems to agree it's mostly about private acts. The official acts get covered in a jury instruction or weird bit. But way more likely they kick it down in a way that gives donnie's explicit wriggling instructions.
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Grip it and rip it posted:I don't think they're going to grant Trump's immunity claim on this case. It's too loving stupid to fathom. Universe: "Hold my beer." Alternatively, that's the entire point of fascist approach to governance. In-group the law protects but does not bind, out-group the law binds but does not protect. I don't expect it to happen yet from this court. My bet is they take the coward's way out and punt it until after the election so they don't have to put their names on it either way, but the mindset is there and growing in strength in the country.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Because foreign political opponents are fair game? That sounds like an argument that presidents are allowed to arbitrarily murder people over there, but not over here. Its not right but generally the law has held that the president can drone strike non-us citizens on non-us territory
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also US citizens can go if they're like, totally not chill. also their son because "like father like son" ya know?
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I think on paper the US government can't internationally assassinate people, either. No one told the CIA, but I think we passed something under Nixon outlawing assassination.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I think on paper the US government can't internationally assassinate people, either. Technically a "court" has to approve those assassinations. No, you can't see their notes or decisions this century, and they never* actually deny murder requests. Stop asking for details or transparency. *0.2% of FISA requests have been rejected in about 40 years if you want to be pedantic. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:*0.2% of FISA requests have been rejected in about 40 years if you want to be pedantic. That just means they're doing a really good job selecting targets. The 1 out of 500 proves it's not a rubber stamp, you see?
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Oh duh I read FISA as FOIA somehow and was thinking there was absolutely no way so few requests were blocked I'm going to go get more coffee
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stealie72 posted:Glad to hear I'm not the only one whose brain was so Clancy/Bay poisoned that I was in utter shock the insurrection wasn't machine gunned down the second they breached the capital doors. Never read Clancy in my life. My brainworms come from too much Roman History.
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Still a bit shocked by this one. Ben Collins is one of NBCNews's best dystopia beat reporters, basically covering a bunch of internet disinformation poo poo. His poo poo's always been very good and he kind of semi-dropped from the public eye in recent months, sounding very burnt out. The Onion has been up for sale from a while from that herb Jim Spanfeller and G/O media. The general internet has figured the Onion was going to get cut up like undeadspin did. A mysterious buyer bought the Onion today, forming a company called Global Tetrahedron, the name of the evil corporation mentioned in lots of Onion stories. These are all connected. https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1783632037640835426?t=3YZWybTT02q-RcWdxYv6fw&s=19 https://global-tetrahedron.com/about facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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okay, did not call that one
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A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
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That's the best news of all!
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facialimpediment posted:Still a bit shocked by this one. Uh that sounds dope. Good things are possible??
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Soul Dentist posted:That's the best news of all!
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facialimpediment posted:Still a bit shocked by this one. Out of left loving field!
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Arrath posted:Uh that sounds dope. Good things are possible?? We shall see. Chickens are not yet hatched.
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