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verbal enema posted:wish I had a tiny elephant Sadly, the tiny elephant project's resources have been diverted to creating full size dinosaurs
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The american cheetah is a cheetah like cougar and not really closely related to actual cheetahs. Regardless, it was fast enough that the pronghorns (which are more closely related to giraffes then anything else) are one of the fastest animals on the planet as a result.
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The breeds of dogs present in North America prior to European colonization may have been derived from several species of canids and not just from wolves. As far as I know no positive genetic testing has been done for it but there's a lot of ethnographic accounts that basically say "Uh these things look and act like the local fox/coyote species" Edit: Elk in the southwest are mostly all transplants. The native species of Elk got hunted out sometime in the 1800s and Elk from Washington were brought in. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 03:53
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Homo sapiens soon, hopefully 
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Captain Hygiene posted:Sadly, the tiny elephant project's resources have been diverted to creating full size dinosaurs well that is loving dumb we all know how that ends up No one made a documentary about tiny elephants ruining a theme park
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Telsa Cola posted:We have archaeological evidence of a giant ground sloth hunt, which is pretty loving wild. Basically the hunt happened in an area where foot prints preserved well and you can mostly see how the hunt progressed and when the sloth noticed. What happened to this country. We used to hunt giant sloths and now people just order food on DoorDishes. Let's sharpen some sticks and break into the zoo.
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Dire wolves weren't wolves, or even closely related to wolves, but a seperate canid lineage which through parallel evolution looked like them. Camels and horses evolved in the Americas, spread to Eurasia, and then went extinct until their reintroduction in historic times.
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Cave bears may have been more omnivores then carnivores amd giant sloths may have been opportunistic omnivores. Elephant bird eggs preserve hella well and it's not uncommon to find fragments of them on beaches in Madagscar
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It's been almost 80 years since the last shoggoth was seen, are they extinct now?
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Telsa Cola posted:Camels and horses evolved in the Americas, spread to Eurasia, and then went extinct until their reintroduction in historic times. That's some  right there
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Telsa Cola posted:There are caves in NA with definite layers of giant ground sloth and mastodon/mammoth poo poo which has preserved fairly well. Big whoop. Wait until they find my bathroom some day
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Has anyone read "the ends of the world"? That book about all of the major extinctions is a real excellent read. The final chapters about the rise and eventual end of humans puts me in a really strange head space
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Thesaurus posted:Has anyone read "the ends of the world"? That book about all of the major extinctions is a real excellent read. The final chapters about the rise and eventual end of humans puts me in a really strange head space I feel fine
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gently caress if humans are around for a million more years we're probably gonna keep evolving somehow and it makes me wonder if we, like this stage of evolution, is gonna be us as we are now. Like if you showed a pic of say, Ronald Reagan or Eddie Murphy or Lucy Liu to a "human" from the year 1 million would they even consider us separate from Homo erectus? Will they still giggle at "Homo erectus?"
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Doctor Dogballs posted:Thylacine. There's still some people searching for evidence of extant thylacines such as the Thylacine Awareness Group Of Australia (TAGOA). They made a bit of a stir back in 2021 when they announced that one of their trailcams had captured photos which they believed were "unambiguous evidence" but when they finally made the photos public they turned out to be the usual inconclusive bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMEKGLjzjBE Every now and then someone will snap a photo of a mysterious thylacine-shaped beast, like this critter photographed between Beacon Point and Clifton Springs in 2019 (a fairly built up region on the mainland where the remaining forested areas are extremely sparse)  It's a fox which has lost most of its tail fur to mange 
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Telsa Cola posted:The american cheetah is a cheetah like cougar and not really closely related to actual cheetahs. Regardless, it was fast enough that the pronghorns (which are more closely related to giraffes then anything else) are one of the fastest animals on the planet as a result. The american cheetah is a misnomer. They're actually a subspecies of cougar found almost exclusively in new jersey and long island with fractured populations in connecticut, rhode island, Massachusetts and Delaware
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A lot of recent glyptodon reconstructions keep giving them this dumb little trunk and I don't like it. Apparently it comes from some paper that suggested that their necks didn't bend right to let their mouths reach the ground, which seems pretty dumb because that's about as low of a mouth as you can get.
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verbal enema posted:wish I had a tiny elephant Well you got the tiny trunk at least
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How did glyptodons mate? It seems like a body shape uniquely poorly designed for that activity. Yes my monitor is on. Snowglobe of Doom posted:There's still some people searching for evidence of extant thylacines such as the Thylacine Awareness Group Of Australia (TAGOA). They made a bit of a stir back in 2021 when they announced that one of their trailcams had captured photos which they believed were "unambiguous evidence" but when they finally made the photos public they turned out to be the usual inconclusive bullshit I can't blame them. The head shape looks right, there's even a hint of stripes on the tail. If I'd devoted my life to thylacine-spotting and saw that photo, I would absolutely be thinking this is iiiiit Tree Bucket fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Lol that's very obviously a tabby cat, those dudes are delusional. Citing those photos as evidence of a thylacine is insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2qu51DHZ4 I kinda adore this ...mockumentary? Dude uses a time traveling sailboat to visit a bunch of prehistoric seas and swim with various awesome critters. It's got pretty excellent cgi for the time.
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Tree Bucket posted:I can't blame them. The head shape looks right, there's even a hint of stripes on the tail. If I'd devoted my life to thylacine-spotting and saw that photo, I would absolutely be thinking this is iiiiit That skinny-as-gently caress fox rear end is the big giveaway, thylacines had that dumptruck marsupial rear end 
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Tree Bucket posted:How did glyptodons mate? It seems like a body shape uniquely poorly designed for that activity. lay down on their side and sorta shimmy until their genitals touch
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Telsa Cola posted:Cave hyenas are basically genetically identical to modern spotted hyenas Spotted hyenas are also still capable of developing winter coats, which is cool  
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Doctor Dogballs posted:Thylacine. He mouth too big for he gotdamn head. free hubcaps posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2qu51DHZ4 Oh I love this. As much as I love the serious documentaries this scratches the Steve Irwin itch so well.
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khwarezm posted:Lots of interesting information. This was a fascinating read, thank you! Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Roundup Ready posted:I was actually going to mention this! Apparently after the moas went extinct the haasts eagle started going after the other thing roughly that size. There's evidence of human skulls with deep claw like scratches in them. I don't think they've ever found anything like that, just some stories about some kids maybe getting taken by them.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:I don't think they've ever found anything like that, just some stories about some kids maybe getting taken by them. There's no physical evidence of it happening but they were big enough to do so if they wanted. My guess is people are mixing that up with the Taung Child which is a Australopithecus skull that does have some solid evidence of predation by a raptor. But that's the only physical evidence I am aware of.
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Telsa Cola posted:
100% it's this. There's actually a few modern species of Eagles with similair wingspans, but Pouakai (maori name) was hella yoked and had comparatively short wings for an eagle, probably an adaptation to make hunting in forest and scrub easier. I remember reading something somewhere that had calculated that getting hit by one would be like the equivalent force of getting a cinder-block dropped on your head from a 2-storey building or something  e] they were fat as hell, like 30% heavier than any modern eagle
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free hubcaps posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE2qu51DHZ4 Its a fun show, but reading up on ancient seas it annoys me that they made the late Cretaceous No. 1, and the late Jurassic is No. 2. The real deadliest seas were probably the Late Miocene (with Megalodon and Livyatan being two of the largest predators in the entire history of the earth) and the mid to late Triassic (the show actually considerably downsizes Cymbospondylus in its appearance during the Triassic segment compared to how large it could be, and later in the Triassic the gargantuan Shonisaurus and Shastasaurus showed up).
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Thanks for this amazing thread and high effort posts, it’s the bright spot in what’s been a depressing day. I had so much joy for extinct animals as a kid and I’m getting a snippet of that back.
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I've always wondered how people manage to work out how a creature looks like and how it operates based on a minimal amount of bone or material. How do people know a creature would be 7 metres long based purely on a skull? A skull is obviously a complex skeletal piece but I've also seen intricate descriptions and models based on far less. Edit: I apologise if this is a dumb question. It's always intrigued me when a report comes out saying something like: "We found the malleus of a new type of dinosaur, here is what it would have looked like when it was still alive" Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Apr 10, 2024 |
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You extrapolate based on related, more complete dinosaurs. It's only approximate and sometimes things change drastically based on new finds, like how Spinosaurus changes every couple of years.
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Kingo Ligma posted:Well you got the tiny trunk at least nooooo
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I've always wondered how people manage to work out how a creature looks like and how it operates based on a minimal amount of bone or material.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:I've always wondered how people manage to work out how a creature looks like and how it operates based on a minimal amount of bone or material. If you have similar remains, then you can extrapolate based on measurements/proportions, similar to like how if I died and someone found a femur fragment of me they could figure out I'm human and roughly my height. (IMO Human bone is pretty easy to ID, even when incredibly fragmentary). People do get it wrong all the time though, and you need to have a comprehensive enough comprative collection to be able to do it well, AND either to time to look through and compare it or have done it enough for that specific species or whatever that you can just kinda tell by sight (still should show your work though) There's also a reason why the size/weight ranges vary so much since it just gives you an estimate. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Apr 10, 2024 |
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titty_baby_ posted:Theyre mostly bullshitting They're just excitable, they're doing their best with the data they have available.  Dino reconstructions get argued over for literally decades, in some cases there's been more than a century of arguing back and forth and certain camps gaining mainstream acceptance only to be dethroned when new evidence comes to light. I grew up in the 70s when dinos were still considered to be big squat lumbering lizards who lived in swamps, I remember when this book came out and reignited my love of dinos by making them cooler than ever:  Here's a fun video showing how the reconstructions of various dinos changed over time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqQNBuGGWg
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