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Plutonis posted:I'm sure that Dany will not be a lovely character in Winds, right? Not in the literal sense this time, but she's going to have a lovely storyline, be a lovely character and be a slog to read. If he can't get it right in the first 5 books,given a few exceptions, I doubt he can make her interesting in the sixth.
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May 7, 2013 17:31
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Him suffocating the fire was uncharacteristically stupid though. Building a lovely fire seems like one of those things that a fat nerd could read books about and yet still gently caress it up once it's actually put into practice. "Wood + sparks = fire. More wood + fire = more fire, right?"
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So from what I've gathered from you guys talking about the show in here is that the show is already putting in bits and pieces of ADwD like Theon being tortured. Meanwhile they cut the Bloody Mummers (important antagonists), the taking of Harrenhal was more a "sheepishly moving in after Lannisters abondon" Harrenhal, Arya's entire character arc is kinda hosed, Jaime/Brienne is still kind of cool, but Dany doesn't have one of the characters in her arc that makes her chapters worth suffering through. I suppose they're doing nothing to hide Roose Bolton and the Karstarks possibly being traitors?
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:We're #161,472 on the Amazon bestsellers list! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZ8A3P4 quote:Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #217,789 Paid in Kindle Store 
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Contra Calculus posted:So from what I've gathered from you guys talking about the show in here is that the show is already putting in bits and pieces of ADwD like Theon being tortured. I mean, they didn't REALLY cut the Bloody Mummers, just changed them around and made them Bolton men. Their shifting allegiances would be kinda hard for show viewers to follow tbh.
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May 7, 2013 19:36
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Contra Calculus posted:So from what I've gathered from you guys talking about the show in here is that the show is already putting in bits and pieces of ADwD like Theon being tortured. Robb has already chopped off Rickard Karstark's head for murdering Lannister children for no good reason.
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May 7, 2013 19:53
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Contra Calculus posted:I suppose they're doing nothing to hide Roose Bolton and the Karstarks possibly being traitors? Also, none of the show-only people seem to know who Roose Bolton or Rickard Karstark are. They are instead 'that creepy guy with Robb' and never-talked-about, respectively.
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Contra Calculus posted:I suppose they're doing nothing to hide Roose Bolton and the Karstarks possibly being traitors? I think they're doing a pretty good job keeping the Boltons a secret considering what they have to work with; pretty much everyone knows that Theon is being held by the Boltons now, but Ramsay is acting like enough of a loose cannon that I don't know that people really link what's going on to Roose. And they managed to let Bolton's freeing Jaime look like a slimy but pragmatic backdoor deal that may be a one-time thing; I don't remember exactly how it went in the books, but it seemed to go something like that. Plus the fact that he keeps Brienne for "abetting treason" makes it look like he's still on Robb's side even though we don't want anything to happen to Brienne. I think I've seen one or two people have an epiphany that Bolton might turn, but it doesn't seem to be something that people have really run with. There are also people who think that the deal with the Freys will go bad (they're starting to get the picture that things almost always go bad) but nobody seems to have any inkling of just how bad.
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PittTheElder posted:Also, none of the show-only people seem to know who Roose Bolton or Rickard Karstark are. They are instead 'that creepy guy with Robb' and never-talked-about, respectively. I think more people know who Bolton is now since his repeated trolling of Jaime has been much more memorable than him showing up periodically to deliver messages to Robb, not to mention the name Bolton is going around a lot with all the speculation about what's going on with Theon.
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Contra Calculus posted:I suppose they're doing nothing to hide Roose Bolton and the Karstarks possibly being traitors? Again if you couldn't figure out Roose Bolton Is Not A Nice Man, then I have a bridge/forthcoming sequel at the Wall to sell you. The Red Wedding's shock is how sudden it happens and its severity
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Aurain posted:Not in the literal sense this time, but she's going to have a lovely storyline, be a lovely character and be a slog to read. Ahem, George GRRM. R. Martin did, in fact, "get it right" with the beautiful Khaleesi, Danaerys Stormborn Targaryen, when he won the prestigious HUGO AWARD for BEST NOVELLA in 1997. Please do your research before posting in this thread good sir.
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Do we know for a fact that she is legitimately stormborn, though? Has anybody actually seen the birth certificate?
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Joramun posted:Do we know for a fact that she is legitimately stormborn, though? Has anybody actually seen the birth certificate? v None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... you're locked in here with me! *nasally giggles* Urdnot Fire fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 8, 2013 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Someone should start a White House petition to have GRRM declared an enemy combatant and confined to Guantanamo if he doesn't finish the series by 2015. Gurmtanamo JimBobDole posted:Intro talk: The sword swipes and shing-shing sounds tell you where the action is. No shing-shing over Winterfell. What will become of the babby thread when the shwing shwings go silent? (Or when they become *squirt-fart-squirt* in ADWD?) Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 8, 2013 |
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:If you've remained spoiler free due to inability to read books by the 5th season, you deserve to have your show turn into an actionless slog through secondary characters' bowel movements.
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The Mutato posted:Ahem, George GRRM. R. Martin did, in fact, "get it right" with the beautiful Khaleesi, Danaerys Stormborn Targaryen, when he won the prestigious HUGO AWARD for BEST NOVELLA in 1997. Please do your research before posting in this thread good sir. I believe you could make a better argument for her AFFC chapters winning a "BEST NOVELLA" award. 
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:If you've remained spoiler free due to inability to read books by the 5th season, you deserve to have your show turn into an actionless slog through secondary characters' bowel movements. I read them all after season 2 because I was like hey this here tv series is pretty good. And the books are even better it turns out! What a novel concept, reading about things I like. I hope HBO breaks the on screen defecation barrier with Dany in season 5. If they're really smart they'll give Gurm the final episode to write so he can do a complex scene involving Dany and fecal matter.
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The making GBS threads better have an epic score. Everytime she explosively shits, the music swells inspirationally.
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Just like the jets of flame in the Dracarys scene, geysers of poo poo will erupt behind her as triumphant music blares.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Just like the jets of flame in the Dracarys scene, geysers of poo poo will erupt behind her as triumphant music blares. Coupled with the pioneering filming technique "glands flare", GoT becomes a force of nature during awards season.
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Adding Theon scenes to this season is the stupidest thing. The whole effectiveness of Reek is that we think Theon is dead for like 2 books, and then suddenly this sad wreck of a human being shows back up and we're not 100% sure it's him at first. When you finally accept that Reek=Theon, you're left wondering what the gently caress happened to this poor wretch. Coincidentally, the things that happened to that poor wretch are "torture" and "more torture", which don't make interesting reading and work better as summarized backstory. If the show continues like this, we're basically going to have 2-2.5 seasons of TV with weekly 5 minute cutaways to torture porn. That's going to get boring and tedious.
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I'd agree that maybe these scenes could have shown up next season and bled into their AFFC/DWD seasons but the Davids have been firm on not having flashbacks or anything and that what the first few Reek chapters basically are.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Adding Theon scenes to this season is the stupidest thing. The whole effectiveness of Reek is that we think Theon is dead for like 2 books, and then suddenly this sad wreck of a human being shows back up and we're not 100% sure it's him at first. When you finally accept that Reek=Theon, you're left wondering what the gently caress happened to this poor wretch. They'll be starting DWD material season after next, that'll probably be Moat Cailin being captured and Roose returning north. I think it makes sense doing it like this, in the book we get a lot of information about how broken Reek is, and hints of how he got that way, from internal monologue. That wouldn't really work on the show. As for next season, they might show the escape attempt with Kyra. It'd be a logical way of showing Theon's developing attitude to women (between the ship-captain's daughter last season and the eventual fake-Arya escape), and it would be an understandable reason for Ramsey to take his cock.
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I was thinking the same thing. Fair enough, show Reek's transformation in 'real time', but he's been in every episode, and been given what feels like more screentime than Rob's campaign. There's still one and a half seasons of SoS left where he was missing in action. It's going to be pretty grim if we get torture updates every single week. I do agree it's necessary to have him appear in the SoS seasons though, given the stupid 'no flashbacks' rule, even if it does spoil Theon's arc of redemption somewhat. Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 8, 2013 |
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Fiendish_Ghoul posted:There are also people who think that the deal with the Freys will go bad (they're starting to get the picture that things almost always go bad) but nobody seems to have any inkling of just how bad. To quote my boyfriend when he saw that scene, "oh. That went way better than I expected!" I very nearly died laughing. Especially since Robb is his favourite character.
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I don't mind the Theon/Reek inclusion because a) it gave us the awesome line "My real father lost his head at King's Landing. I chose wrong", which is the most self-aware thing and makes Theon so much more likeable (and thus the torture that much worse) and b) Iwan Rheon looked nothing like my image of Ramsay but boy did that change after the last episode 
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Based on the preview it looks like Theon's arc for this season might come to an end next episode. I'd like it if he suffered his greatest torture and then wasn't addressed until next season when he reappears, fully broken. That would restore a bit of the ambiguity regarding his fate that was present in the books. Besides, where do they go with torture after the dude is gelded?
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Ramsay could give him the complete set of George RR Martin's WildCards: a George RR Martin Project by George RR Martin.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Ramsay could give him the complete set of George RR Martin's WildCards: a George RR Martin Project by George RR Martin. Please, he might be trying to torture the guy but he's not a complete monster.
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They could be giving him screen time leading up to an off-screen "death".
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Rarity posted:Please, he might be trying to torture the guy but he's not a complete monster. Ramsay could make him run your thread 
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Rarity posted:Please, he might be trying to torture the guy but he's not a complete monster. But but ACES HIGH and ROYAL FLUSH and INSERT POKER REFERENCE HERE.
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I get fed up with people who love the show flat-out refusing to read and spoiler-bombed TVIV (padded with mostly fake deaths to assuage my guilt over being an rear end in a top hat) and I'm not banned and the thread blaring character deaths is just sitting there after half an hour. They must be not banning me out of spite. Really, I just wanted A Glistening Hodor to love me.
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whoflungpoop posted:My 3 year-old niece disagrees. That was the first episode she ever saw (which is inappropriate I know, but I can only take so much of loving Dora the Explorer) and we had to watch that scene over and over again. Now every time she comes over she wants to watch "Dragons" and Khaleesi. She knows all of Dany's crew by name* and asks constant questions about everything that goes on. shitthatdidnthappen.txt Edit: if any tv fans want to pop in - Joffrey dies choking on food at his wedding Margaery's mom probably did it, Dany still hasn't returned to Westeros and looks to have zero intentions on doing so any time soon, Tyrion gets shipped off to Danys storyline and both become boring for it, littlefinger runs off to Lysa Arryn's place with Sansa and kills Lysa. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:30 on May 8, 2013 |
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Shoehead posted:Ramsay could make him run your thread I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone 
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Adding Theon scenes to this season is the stupidest thing... It's probably in the guy's contract that he's in a set amount of episodes every season.
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