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Erenthal: Jan 1, 2008; A relaxing walk in the woods; Grimey Drawer

...! posted:

This is too long for even me to cut/paste but it's good reading:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x9gue/my_protest_at_mtgox_offices_5_to_7th_february/

timeline, but i'm the guy who can take three days off of work to travel by plane across half the world in order to camp out in the offices of a firm called magic the gathering online exchange, demanding my monopoly money back

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:17

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# ? May 18, 2024 14:29

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

Heresiarch posted:

welp, i keep doing this

odds that he's blocked me?

what does he even think he's saying

the only thing that the protocol does is keep coins from being duplicated (as inefficiently as fukken possible too), how is it even tangentially relevant to this

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:18

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

transfatphobic posted:

this is a really stupid man youre arguing with

i know, but he's really popular with bitcoiners

it's like arguing with the pope, you know it's not going to do any good but how can you pass up the opportunity?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:18

kiwid: Sep 30, 2013

Heresiarch posted:

welp, i keep doing this

odds that he's blocked me?

AA has the biggest punchable douchebag personality I've ever seen.

Pretty soon he'll start throwing up that argument triangle picture and screaming "ad hominem".

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:19

Adult Sword Owner: Jun 19, 2011; u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

you started using words he didnt understand like https so he started just repeating the word "strawman" over and over

he has to be a gbs poster

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:20

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

Werthog 95 posted:

so has anybody figured out where bitpay gets their cash from yet?

i always suspected they have a back door deal with one of the exchanges

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:21

Robawesome: Jul 22, 2005

Heresiarch posted:

i know, but he's really popular with bitcoiners

I was going to mention this. That guy is like the Bitcoin Jesus to redditors.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:22

double sulk: Jul 2, 2010

Heresiarch posted:

i know, but he's really popular with bitcoiners

it's like arguing with the pope, you know it's not going to do any good but how can you pass up the opportunity?

you're my hero

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:22

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

https is just the plural of http how loving stupid do you have to be to not know that?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:25

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

some guy just asked "Did I miss something? Where was it stated that #bitcoin was designed to prevent fraud or financial misbehavior?"

i linked him to two of andreas's tweets and he deleted the question

these people, really

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:27

neutral milf hotel: Oct 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

here's a silly question, in a sustained 51% attack can the controlling party effectively revert past transactions as long as all succeeding transactions are recalculated/rehashed/whatever? Sounds implausible but would it be impossible?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:31

killhamster: Apr 15, 2004; SCAMMER
Hero Member

ayn rand hand job posted:

I arrived at MtGox early, approximately 8am, and stood outside with a sign reading �MtGox, where has my money gone�. I got some curious looks, and a lot of questions from passersby about my protest.

Then at approximately 9.20 am, Mark Karpeles himself came along carrying a large, and very fancy coffee in his hand that could have passed as a dessert. I immediately confronted him and told him we needed a chat. So he stopped to hear me out.

i'm the japanese passers-by trying to figure out what the gently caress the weird foreigner wants

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:31

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Heresiarch posted:

some guy just asked "Did I miss something? Where was it stated that #bitcoin was designed to prevent fraud or financial misbehavior?"

i linked him to two of andreas's tweets and he deleted the question

these people, really

im pretty sure bitcoins protocol does an excellent job of preventing COUNTERFEITING, but that has absolutely nothing to do with other types of fraud???

like, that's an advantage bitcoin has over cash - it is harder to counterfeit BTC than USD. that doesnt mean i cant tell lies because i have bitcoins

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:34

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

Heresiarch posted:

some guy just asked "Did I miss something? Where was it stated that #bitcoin was designed to prevent fraud or financial misbehavior?"

i linked him to two of andreas's tweets and he deleted the question

these people, really

you're doing gods work

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:41

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

i seem to have shut up @aantonop through sheer force of words or something

also some guy on g+ linked to mine last night suggesting that my "bitcoin doesn't scale" argument was wrong because of that 10MW mining center in sweden somebody's building

i hope that it actually gets built because then everybody else's expensive asics will be even less efficient

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:41

dorkanoid: Dec 21, 2004

Heresiarch posted:

i seem to have shut up @aantonop through sheer force of words or something

also some guy on g+ linked to mine last night suggesting that my "bitcoin doesn't scale" argument was wrong because of that 10MW mining center in sweden somebody's building

i hope that it actually gets built because then everybody else's expensive asics will be even less efficient

no you see the more computing power is thrown at bitcoin the faster transac...oh. I mean, more transactions can be cleared per bl...poo poo.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:47

Robawesome: Jul 22, 2005

Cryptoforcoins.com is a scam (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 2 minutes ago by Caad10

I decided to try out cryptoforcoins.com aka crytpoforcards.com, which is a trade your starbucks gift card in exchange for bitcoin site, and they stole my $12 starbucks balance.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:49

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Robawesome posted:

Cryptoforcoins.com is a scam (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 2 minutes ago by Caad10

I decided to try out cryptoforcoins.com aka crytpoforcards.com, which is a trade your starbucks gift card in exchange for bitcoin site, and they stole my $12 starbucks balance.

lmfao

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:51

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

$12 in starbucks is what a small caramel macchiato with a lemon pound cake

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:55

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

The Management posted:

i always suspected they have a back door deal with one of the organized criminal organizations

# ? Feb 7, 2014 18:59

killhamster: Apr 15, 2004; SCAMMER
Hero Member

Heresiarch posted:

i seem to have shut up @aantonop through sheer force of words or something

also some guy on g+ linked to mine last night suggesting that my "bitcoin doesn't scale" argument was wrong because of that 10MW mining center in sweden somebody's building

i hope that it actually gets built because then everybody else's expensive asics will be even less efficient

he's a dipshit who gets by on what bitcoiners consider to be personality. he was on joe rogan's podcast the other day and it took twitter a week to shut the gently caress up about it. he looks like :froggonk:

in every photo i've seen

anyway they have literally started calling him bitcoin jesus and abandoned roger ver. he won't acknowledge me or any questions i've ever asked him

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:09

motedek: Oct 9, 2012

the first publicly traded Bitcoin company: Bitcoin shop

it's over the counter

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:10

TVarmy: Sep 11, 2011; like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

Is rule lawyering your way to "invalidating" someone else's argument through tenuous logical fallacies really a good way to make a point?

I feel like the internet has transformed logical fallacies from something that's a bad practice which forms weak arguments into a "I don't have to prove my point anymore" card.

Remember, this is the guy /r/Bitcoin wants to represent Bitcoin on TV and possibly even run the foundation.

Edit: someone dig up that reddit endorsement that said this guy was special because he is an extrovert and used tumblr psychology to explain that Bitcoin has almost no extroverts because they're good at technology, but that made them weak to extroverts who hold panels or give interviews.

TVarmy fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Feb 7, 2014

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:11

Dex: May 26, 2006; Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

theflyingorc posted:

im pretty sure bitcoins protocol does an excellent job of preventing COUNTERFEITING, but that has absolutely nothing to do with other types of fraud???

like, that's an advantage bitcoin has over cash - it is harder to counterfeit BTC than USD. that doesnt mean i cant tell lies because i have bitcoins

you're wrong actually. pirateat40, patrick starfish, bitcointalk's donation drives - none of these things would be possible with bitcoin

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:49

Dex: May 26, 2006; Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

had to look up that starfish dude and it's patrick harnett, and here's a funny thing i forgot about http://ripper234.com/p/why-i-trust-patrick-harnett/

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:51

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

killhamster posted:

he's a dipshit who gets by on what bitcoiners consider to be personality. he was on joe rogan's podcast the other day and it took twitter a week to shut the gently caress up about it. he looks like in every photo i've seen

anyway they have literally started calling him bitcoin jesus and abandoned roger ver. he won't acknowledge me or any questions i've ever asked him

i wondered how bitcoin could possibly become more insufferable and there it goes showing me by getting joe rogan onboard.

well done bitcoin.

TVarmy posted:

Is rule lawyering your way to "invalidating" someone else's argument through tenuous logical fallacies really a good way to make a point?

I feel like the internet has transformed logical fallacies from something that's a bad practice which forms weak arguments into a "I don't have to prove my point anymore" card.

Remember, this is the guy /r/Bitcoin wants to represent Bitcoin on TV and possibly even run the foundation.

Edit: someone dig up that reddit endorsement that said this guy was special because he is an extrovert and used tumblr psychology to explain that Bitcoin has almost no extroverts because they're good at technology, but that made them weak to extroverts who hold panels or give interviews.

there have always been assholes that wouldn't accept losing an argument and would grasp at excuses why the other side isn't being fair when they are not winning but the internet just gives them an endless opportunity to not shut up.

# ? Feb 7, 2014 19:58

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Dex posted:

you're wrong actually. pirateat40, patrick starfish, bitcointalk's donation drives - none of these things would be possible with bitcoin

i dont' understand what you are trying to say at all

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:00

Dex: May 26, 2006; Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

theflyingorc posted:

i dont' understand what you are trying to say at all

cool

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:00

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

TVarmy posted:

I feel like the internet has transformed logical fallacies from something that's a bad practice which forms weak arguments into a "I don't have to prove my point anymore" card.

strawmen is probably the most poorly used one, and whaddasurprise this guy used it and incorrectly

a strawman is when you defeat unrelated arguments to look like you've defeated the main argument, it isn't "here is a situation that appears to be parallel to this one, could you demonstrate how that situation is fundamentally different from the one we're talking about" which is what heresiarch was doing

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:03

Fuzzy Mammal: Aug 15, 2001; Lipstick Apathy

so apparently it's illegal to sell coins for cash on localbitcoins.com :lol:

"it's easy" - MLR

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/florida-targets-high-dollar-bitcoin-exchangers/

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:07

Heresiarch: Oct 6, 2005; Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

i was trying to be clever because twitter has those length limitations, and of course trying to be clever when arguing with an idiot is a huge mistake because they can't even tell what you're talking about

that's why i just said "gently caress it" and made like 20 tweets explaining in detail what i was trying to say so he would shut up about "strawman arguments"

what does it look like when somebody blocks you on twitter, anyway? i've done it to a couple of people but never seen what it looks like from their end. if he did, is there a way for me to tell?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:10

neutral milf hotel: Oct 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

so apparently it's illegal to sell coins for cash on localbitcoins.com

"it's easy" - MLR

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/florida-targets-high-dollar-bitcoin-exchangers/

today is the day that keeps on giving :toot:

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:11

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Heresiarch posted:

i was trying to be clever because twitter has those length limitations, and of course trying to be clever when arguing with an idiot is a huge mistake because they can't even tell what you're talking about

that's why i just said "gently caress it" and made like 20 tweets explaining in detail what i was trying to say so he would shut up about "strawman arguments"

what does it look like when somebody blocks you on twitter, anyway? i've done it to a couple of people but never seen what it looks like from their end. if he did, is there a way for me to tell?

i can block you on twitter if you'd like

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:12

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA: May 29, 2008

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

so apparently it's illegal to sell coins for cash on localbitcoins.com

"it's easy" - MLR

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/florida-targets-high-dollar-bitcoin-exchangers/

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:13

motedek: Oct 9, 2012

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/florida-targets-high-dollar-bitcoin-exchangers/

Lmbo

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:13

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

theflyingorc posted:

i can block you on twitter if you'd like

i did so. if you can see that "akbarbitcoins" blocked you, then that's what twitter does

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:17

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

bitcoin twitter is a fun one

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:18

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

so apparently it's illegal to sell coins for cash on localbitcoins.com

"it's easy" - MLR

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/02/florida-targets-high-dollar-bitcoin-exchangers/

lollin at the first comment

quote:

XWzGjtin0
February 7, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Hello,

We are interested in selling bitcoin to American citizens, we�d like to know what it would cost to operate this totally legally?

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:21

Robawesome: Jul 22, 2005

Sell your AAPL shares and reinvest in bitcoin or something else. (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 17 minutes ago by tharlam

and if you own a shop that sells Apple products, boycott them.

[�]millsdmb 3 points 8 minutes ago

you should sell your apple shares anyways, cuz its a pos junker.

[�]tomuchfun 1 point 2 minutes ago

Never buy an apple product again! And If ypu own one(that is under warranty) jam the connectors inside the headphone jack with a needle and bring it back and get a new device under your warranty(i've done it atleast 10 times and never had a problem with them not believing me) gently caress them make them waste their money!!!

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# ? May 18, 2024 14:29

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

The undercover agent and Michelhack allegedly arranged a face-to-face meeting and exchanged a single Bitcoin for $1,000, a price that investigators say included an almost 17 percent conversion fee. According to court documents, the agent told Michelhack that he wanted to use the Bitcoins to purchase stolen credit cards online.

fukken lol

# ? Feb 7, 2014 20:22

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