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Lady Bureaucrazy posted:All this talk about show-only storylines, how has no one mentioned Ros? Ros was an interesting idea, it gave the tv watcher a neat way to tie all these disparate characters together while being a quasi social climber. Then they abruptly ended that and killed her. I liked the conversation Littlefinger gave her that was chilling as hell. But yeah, mostly a misfire there . Wasn't GRRM so impressed with her character he said he was planning on writing her into the books? Lol
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Mike N Eich posted:Wasn't GRRM so impressed with her character he said he was planning on writing her into the books? Lol Think so. He also said that he may expand Osha's role in the books as HBO inspired him and that the show would never ever ever ever ever ever in million years ever affect how he writes.
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Mar 24, 2015 00:57
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I wasn't as bothered about Ros on my recent re-watch. She must be a lot more insufferable when you're dying to get to the Red Wedding fireworks factory. Edit: It's a lot of fun watching my fiancee on the re-watch now, completely abandoned any love of Robb and Robbwife, just shakes her head at every single scene of his after meeting her. "JUST KEEP HER ON THE DL YOU GODDAMN IDIOT"
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Mar 24, 2015 00:59
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"I like this character, I might add her into the books." (Show kills her off) "I like how the show developed this character, I might expand on her in the books." (MIA since Season 2)
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Mar 24, 2015 01:04
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Lady Bureaucrazy posted:All this talk about show-only storylines, how has no one mentioned Ros? who? e: this is not a joke post I actually do not know what Ros is and I watched the show
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Mar 24, 2015 01:07
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I like writing these books (hasn't published a complete one since the year 2000).
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Mar 24, 2015 01:08
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:who? "Play with her arse."
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Mar 24, 2015 01:09
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Red headed whore that Theon banged with a flaccid dong that somehow ended up in King's Landing. She worked for Baelish until Joffery made her into a pincushion.
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Mar 24, 2015 01:13
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Lady Bureaucrazy posted:All this talk about show-only storylines, how has no one mentioned Ros? Ros was loving terrible but I actually found her death both shocking and disturbing. I was a show-watcher for a brief and fleeting moment.
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Mar 24, 2015 01:15
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Lycus posted:"Play with her arse." Okay I just read some wiki about her, didn't a character like her exist in the book? I don't think she had a name but wasn't there someone who Cersei thought was Shae? I literally don't remember this character being significant at all in the show and would have guessed she was cast as "prostitute 3" or something. I guess I didn't pay that much attention in S2.
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Mar 24, 2015 01:16
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There is some red-headed whore in North in the books (can't remember if her name is actually Ros), she is a very minor character with no role in the story.
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Mar 24, 2015 01:19
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Intel&Sebastian posted:As much as I'd prefer to get the ending via the books, even if they're all ADWD level crap, this is the perfect punishment for GRRM and I very much look forward to him getting saltier and saltier as the seasons slip by. I'd be willing to bet they pad a little bit to try to give him time as this is sort of a "get it done right now or get hosed forever" situation. Either that or the show is going to abandon a poo poo load of plot lines in the end and we're going to have to read book 7 to get closure on a lot of stuff
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Mar 24, 2015 01:47
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kcroy posted:If not then, in the HBO series... I have heard she will have a small character cameo, but that it will secretly reveal she isn't the original Miley. I know this is just creepypasta, but I have had this uncomfortable feeling of dread in my chest all day since I saw this. I think the other side-rumors of sex abuse at Disney in the OP of that screenshot really put me over the edge. Especially with all the news about how extensively the UK government has been covering up basically all of their celebrities and Important People raping and killing kids for years, I think my gut was all too ready to believe this, even if my brain knows better. Also, can someone explain the Andrew W.K. thing to me? Going off the wiki, it seems like AWK is a character created by a group of people but the actor playing him isn't allowed to say so? And for a period of time a different actor replaced him and someone else was mad about it? The wiki and cited articles make it seem so enigmatic, but when I boil it down it sounds kinda boring. I did always think it was odd he went from being sorta-buff when Party Hard came out to being this skinny dude.
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If they're finishing Dance up this season, I don't think they're gonna pad for Gurm at all, and you're gonna have to wait for the books if you want to find out what happens with Aegon, Stone heart, Victarion or the beloved Penny.
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kcroy posted:If not then, in the HBO series... I have heard she will have a small character cameo, but that it will secretly reveal she isn't the original Miley. haha what the gently caress is this. I know that the entertainment industry and Disney in particular has done a lot of shady poo poo with casting couch stuff but how do you go from believing that to believing in loving plastic surgery body doubles to cover up murder? Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 02:18
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Intel&Sebastian posted:As much as I'd prefer to get the ending via the books, even if they're all ADWD level crap, this is the perfect punishment for GRRM and I very much look forward to him getting saltier and saltier as the seasons slip by. Yeah its gonna be pretty sweet. And besides, its not like an extra 3 seasons would make any difference, right? Assuming he doesn't die, this is the time line I would expect. I see this as the MOST optimistic timeline possible: TWOW: 2017 / Whenever HBO series ends. Age: 68 Book 7: 2023 Age: 74 Book 8: 2029 Age 80 Once HBO series is done, he will slump into a major depression and focus on his side projects galore even more than he does now. edit: There will be SOME book shipped before the end of the HBO series ( or in conjunction with it ) ... even if it is a half finished piece of crap. I have serious doubts about his ability to put out Book 7. Add in some likely health issues, a joint replacement or three, that double bypass, and whatnot, and I just don't know if book 7 will happen. I don't think ( especially with having to rush out book 6 ), that book 7 can possibly be the end to the series. Unless they just use the GOT ending, and kill off every other plotline. Then they could poo poo that out right quick. Expect that to happen if GRRM dies anywhere along the way. kcroy fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Mar 24, 2015 02:40
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Disney in particular has done a lot of shady poo poo with casting couch stuff That is horrifying considering all their child actors. Reminds me of the Godfather. Is there proof of any of that stuff, or just industry rumours?
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Mar 24, 2015 02:49
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:haha what the gently caress is this. I know that the entertainment industry and Disney in particular has done a lot of shady poo poo with casting couch stuff but how do you go from believing that to believing in loving plastic surgery body doubles to cover up murder? Have you ever heard of the conspiracy theory that Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by a body double? It was pretty popular and there are still youtube loons who are convinced Paul is now Faul* despite the fact that Faul would now have been playing Paul for longer than the real Paul was alive. *McBlackfyre
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Okay I just read some wiki about her, didn't a character like her exist in the book? I don't think she had a name but wasn't there someone who Cersei thought was Shae? I literally don't remember this character being significant at all in the show and would have guessed she was cast as "prostitute 3" or something. I guess I didn't pay that much attention in S2. Yep
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Mar 24, 2015 03:14
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This is also optimistically predicting that he won't split any of the last books.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:This is also optimistically predicting that he won't split any of the last books. The Green Mile was critically acclaimed right? Roger Ebert posted:I appreciated the extra time, which allows us to feel the passage of prison months and years. Sounds about right.
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computer parts posted:I'm going to pretend that Taylor Swift started that conspiracy theory since she apparently does go on 4chan. Well like Gerstmann said, sometimes you just need the internet raw. *edit* Oh boy, here we go again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO-RiqaK8n0 Arbite fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Mar 24, 2015 |
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Im pretty sure its not a conspiracy and he really is trying to write books, its just that he is old and doesnt give as much of a poo poo as he did 20 years ago and the reality that nothing that he writes could ever come close to bringing in the kind of cultural relevance and success the show has brought in. So he does kind of still want to finish it but he is fat and lazy and the "reasoning" part of his brain tells him to just revel in it all as much as possible while it lasts and only work when he absolutely has to.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Also, can someone explain the Andrew W.K. thing to me? Going off the wiki, it seems like AWK is a character created by a group of people but the actor playing him isn't allowed to say so? And for a period of time a different actor replaced him and someone else was mad about it? The wiki and cited articles make it seem so enigmatic, but when I boil it down it sounds kinda boring. I did always think it was odd he went from being sorta-buff when Party Hard came out to being this skinny dude. I think what it comes down is just legal wrangling between WK and his his old record company over various rights. The thing is, WK hasn't made any attempt to play down these rumours, and has even helped spread them. The idea of there having been more than one Andrew WK is ridiculous.
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What is it about these books that make people absolutely insane.
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Mike N Eich posted:Too bad the show has...a less than stellar record on inventing material.
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Junkenstein posted:I think what it comes down is just legal wrangling between WK and his his old record company over various rights. The thing is, WK hasn't made any attempt to play down these rumours, and has even helped spread them. The idea of there having been more than one Andrew WK is ridiculous. But there is proof, maaaaan!!! http://archersguild.blogspot.com/2011/03/andrew-wk-and-steev-mike-conspiracy.html
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Iron Lung posted:But there is proof, maaaaan!!! http://archersguild.blogspot.com/2011/03/andrew-wk-and-steev-mike-conspiracy.html Pro comments on that article.
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Mar 24, 2015 16:48
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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...e-10127324.html Some hard hitting "news" that you all probably saw already. I'm gonna call this the Gurm Squirm.
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Mar 24, 2015 21:06
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Jokes on them, they're going to catch poo poo dick from him and not finish the show either.
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Mar 24, 2015 21:16
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Show watchers have been putting up with book readers spoiling stuff for years, now they're gonna get revenge.
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a spoiler nightmare!!! ps dany invades westeros with dragons and the others tear down the wall and a bunch of people die and its like there is ice and fire stuff
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PDP-1 posted:Show watchers have been putting up with book readers spoiling stuff for years, now they're gonna get revenge. At the time I told them they were giant privileged gaywad babies for demanding the rest of the world pretend like the books don't exist so they could enjoy a TV show AND post on the internet, abandon one or the other. I am a Stannis man so I proudly stand up and tell everyone reading the books not to be giant gaywad babies who pretend the TV show doesn't exist and to log off the loving internet if it's so drat important to stay completely unspoiled.
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Mar 25, 2015 00:43
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Monster, you know they're going to log off the internet forever
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each day is a struggle to cling to life as I have been sentenced to battle the demon of spoilers for books that will never exist for as long as I live
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http://watchersonthewall.com/a-scientific-guess-at-george-r-r-martins-progress-on-the-winds-of-winter This is actually some good analysis
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Real talk: one of the only things on this forum to actually exasperate me was being in a GOT TV thread and having multiple people argue that the entire forum was doing them major harm because there was speculation discussion going on that MAY or MAY NOT have anything to do with the books. It wasn't even someone going in and saying "here's a spoiler from the books for ya!" it was them crying because people who weren't as hardcore spoiler averse as them were speculating and someone somewhere might say "nah that doesn't happen in the books" and then all speculation anywhere would be RIFE WITH SPOILERS. All that just because they are too loving lazy to read a book, too weak willed to stay away from the internet and too hosed up to realize that telling everyone how gay they are wouldn't magically make the internet a place where the books stopped existing. And I am absolutely convinced that before this battle is through someone who only reads the books is going to surpass their terribleness.
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Spoiler, Dany meets Aegon and they fall in love and settle down and have kids and start a New Valyrian Empire while half of Westeros' population dies in the ongoing civil war and the remaining half to the Others/winter. Years later the Summer islanders colonize Westeros and enslave the few remaining white people. The End
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eXXon posted:Spoiler, Dany meets Aegon and they fall in love and settle down and have kids and start a New Valyrian Empire while half of Westeros' population dies in the ongoing civil war and the remaining half to the Others/winter. Years later the Summer islanders colonize Westeros and enslave the few remaining white people. You're saying this series is gonna have a happy ending?
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