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blue squares posted:I'm starting to stall out on Recognitions already. The tone of this book varies a lot from page to page. hallelujah there is something good in this gosh dang god empty world.
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Hey, Italo Calvino fans, he wrote an essay on why you should read this month's BotM: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762828&pagenumber=1#post455837730
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Mel Mudkiper posted:listen to NPR then nerds NPR is only good at certain times of day. That particular pasture is mined with cow pies like The Takeaway with John "More Like HACKenberry!" Hockenberry. e: On weekends I guess there's Prairie Home Companion and Car Talk. Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 03:59
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at the date posted:NPR is only good at certain times of day. That particular pasture is mined with cow pies like The Takeaway with John "More Like HACKenberry!" Hockenberry. Prairie hasn't been funny in two decades and Car Talk is a zombie show. Wait Wait Don't Tell Me and Whaddya Know are both Good Shows, though.
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Feb 4, 2016 04:06
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Prairie hasn't been funny in two decades and Car Talk is a zombie show. Wrong-o. Prairie is still great. The Tales from Lake Woebegone segment in the San Francisco show a couple weeks ago was mesmerizing. Car Talk is still better than pretty much everything else on the radio. Those other two are beneath the dignity of criticism and I'm convinced you're trolling.
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Feb 4, 2016 04:23
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at the date posted:Wrong-o. Prairie is still great. The Tales from Lake Woebegone segment in the San Francisco show a couple weeks ago was mesmerizing. Car Talk is still better than pretty much everything else on the radio. Those other two are beneath the dignity of criticism and I'm convinced you're trolling. Same but the opposite opinion.
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Feb 4, 2016 04:36
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Swillkitsch posted:Hello literature thread, I finished The Brothers Karamazov yesterday and it made me emotional. Cannot believe there was a sequel planned that never happened, I am basically having the problems I usually have with cancelled comic books with actual books for grown-ups. Oh man the part near the end where Ivan goes crazy and talks to the devil. Re: 19th century russian sequels, if that upset you, I hope you never find out what happened to Dead Souls 2
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Feb 4, 2016 04:45
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blue squares posted:I'm starting to stall out on Recognitions already. The tone of this book varies a lot from page to page. Yeah, been there. Maybe we should get a thread together and do a scheduled reading so we can all prop each other up when it gets tough.
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Feb 4, 2016 05:22
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mdemone posted:Yeah, been there. Maybe we should get a thread together and do a scheduled reading so we can all prop each other up when it gets tough. I don't like turning my favorite hobby into what feels like work or an obligation. I prefer to read whatever I feel like reading. That means I sometimes have four or five books going at once.
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Feb 4, 2016 05:40
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Actually reading must feel like really hard work as you slowly climb the mountains of canon Only occasionally shall you ironically partake in frivolous joys of plebeians This is real literature
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Feb 4, 2016 09:10
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mallamp posted:Actually reading must feel like really hard work as you slowly climb the mountains of canon That's stupid talk bro. Even knows lit readers are the literary equivalent of nazi mountaineers.
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Feb 4, 2016 10:22
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What bit aren't you liking?
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TresTristesTigres posted:Re: 19th century russian sequels, if that upset you, I hope you never find out what happened to Dead Souls 2 What we have is flat out bad and it'd been better if Gogol had managed to burn it all
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Feb 4, 2016 12:44
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at the date posted:NPR is only good at certain times of day. That particular pasture is mined with cow pies like The Takeaway with John "More Like HACKenberry!" Hockenberry. I live near Philly so I get WHYY which is basically god's version of NPR
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Mr. Squishy posted:What bit aren't you liking? Chapter 2 onward. I'm on page 86 now but on a positive note, I am loving Sophia this time around. I read the first half last night and will finish it today. I've never had such a turnaround with a book before in a such a short time. I guess it goes to show that some books have to be approached with the proper mindset. blue squares fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 14:47
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mallamp posted:Actually reading must feel like really hard work as you slowly climb the mountains of canon Reading so called "real" literature is an absolute chore, but I'm afraid its got to be done.
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Feb 4, 2016 15:12
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blue squares posted:Chapter 2 onward. I'm on page 86 now yeah boi
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Feb 4, 2016 15:33
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whenever I find highbrow book that's actually entertaining or that entertaining book I read was highbrow, I'm so happy, like when I found out there's John Updike Society. Whenever I read Joyce I become depressed but do it anyway. I guess I'm depressed anyway.
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Feb 4, 2016 16:35
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What makes a book entertaining for you? For me, great prose and metaphors is entertaining, good dialogue, variety in the characters. I don't need a fast-paced plot or even any plot at all, though of course that helps.
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Feb 4, 2016 16:37
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Here's a handy guide if you're wondering if something is highbrow: If I like it, it's highbrow, if I don't like it, it's low class garbage for babies
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Feb 4, 2016 16:37
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blue squares posted:What makes a book entertaining for you? For me, great prose and metaphors is entertaining, good dialogue, variety in the characters. I don't need a fast-paced plot or even any plot at all, though of course that helps. I've said before I would rather read 500 pages of the most-well developed character sitting on a chair alone than 200 pages of a big exciting adventure with poorly developed characters. Characters, their development, and the authenticity of their relationships and interactions is my prime interest.
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Feb 4, 2016 16:38
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There's a reason Ulysses is considered by many the greatest novel ever written (at least in English)
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Feb 4, 2016 16:40
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Like, I am really enjoying City on Fire and the plot is great but I find myself getting caught up on some of the characters because they strike me as a little inauthentic
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Feb 4, 2016 16:42
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like, I am really enjoying City on Fire and the plot is great but I find myself getting caught up on some of the characters because they strike me as a little inauthentic excuse me but there is a really fantastic thread that is perfect for posts like this. Just kidding, it's topical to what we're talking about here. Yeah, you have a point. Some of the characters are less of characters and more of plot-drivers. But Larry and Charlie are great. Do you like Pynchon? Because I feel like his characters are deliberately inauthentic. Maybe that's part of his postmodernism, in that pomo fiction is self-aware of its fictionality. But his characters exist more to make literary and philosophical points rather than to exist in the world of the book blue squares fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 16:43
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If you want honest non-ironical answer: I want to relate to the characters (Updike), or either escape reality (Dickens, sf) or get interesting views on it (pomo). If it's all language then I don't really give a poo poo, but sure I'll read it if it hgelps me graduate one day
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Feb 4, 2016 16:52
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mallamp posted:whenever I find highbrow book that's actually entertaining or that entertaining book I read was highbrow, I'm so happy, like when I found out there's John Updike Society. Whenever I read Joyce I become depressed but do it anyway. I guess I'm depressed anyway. Personally I have never remotely enjoyed reading a "highbrow" book, but I read them anyway because I want to lord it over the people in other threads in this forum.
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Feb 4, 2016 16:55
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blue squares posted:excuse me but there is a really fantastic thread that is perfect for posts like this. Just kidding, it's topical to what we're talking about here. Yeah, you have a point. Some of the characters are less of characters and more of plot-drivers. But Larry and Charlie are great. I am struggling with Charlie. I cannot tell if he is an obnoxiously flat character or a really well written obnoxious person quote:Do you like Pynchon? Because I feel like his characters are deliberately inauthentic. Maybe that's part of his postmodernism, in that pomo fiction is self-aware of its fictionality. But his characters exist more to make literary and philosophical points rather than to exist in the world of the book tragic confession, I have only read 1 Pynchon and its Calling of Lot 49
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CestMoi posted:Personally I have never remotely enjoyed reading a "highbrow" book, but I read them anyway because I want to lord it over the people in other threads in this forum. Nice, me too
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Feb 4, 2016 16:55
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Mason & Dixon is the Pynchon book with Characters and it's really good.
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CestMoi posted:Personally I have never remotely enjoyed reading a "highbrow" book, but I read them anyway because I want to lord it over the people in other threads in this forum. I fee like highbrow is a bitch term for people who don't like a book but want to look intellectual for having read it
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Feb 4, 2016 16:57
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lowbrow, middlebrow, and highbrow are judgements of social status more than the book itself highbrow - I didn't like it but reading it makes me look smart middlebrow - I liked it but I don't feel like I can act smart for having read it lowbrow - I didn't like it and I want to feel better than people who did
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Feb 4, 2016 16:58
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To make this simpler do what I did and shave off your eyebrows
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I think Charlie is a well written obnoxious character. He's a teenager who's experienced a traumatic event and is lashing out rather than confronting it.
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Yeah Charlie is a great character. He is an inherently good person who feels betrayed by the world and is doing whatever he can to find someone who will approve of him. He also struggles with being in love with someone who he thinks doesn't love him back, which for a teenage boy is really lovely and makes you question your self-worth
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Nanomashoes posted:Mason & Dixon is the Pynchon book with Characters and it's really good. Actually, the thing that makes Mason & Dixon good is the tangents on 18th century surveying techniques.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:06
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Cloks posted:I think Charlie is a well written obnoxious character. He's a teenager who's experienced a traumatic event and is lashing out rather than confronting it. Yeah I am leaning towards this. I am glad they finally gave Amory a chapter because he was really poorly developed up until then but I still find his way of talking too explicitly villainous and less "this is a real dude" Also the minor cop characters all talk like a 70s police show and I kinda roll my eyes at that Its weird I keep nitpicking it like this when I really do really like the book but otherwise it would just be like "yup guys still really good"
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Feb 4, 2016 17:07
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I'm about 200 pages into A Little Life and I feel like this book is ramping up to wreck my poo poo, emotionally.
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Feb 4, 2016 17:09
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You have no idea
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Feb 4, 2016 17:11
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little life is next after ferrante vol. 2 god my soul is gonna get hosed
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