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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
None of this will matter in a few years when Ye Olde legacy media has finished collapsing and only survives in the form of some online blogs.

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an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

DancingShade posted:

None of this will matter in a few years when Ye Olde legacy media has finished collapsing and only survives in the form of some online blogs.

the nyt will be all that's left and it'll be an even greater vortex of succ

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

DancingShade posted:

None of this will matter in a few years when Ye Olde legacy media has finished collapsing and only survives in the form of some online blogs.

I have confidence that some can leverage brand recognition and survive as aggregators of porn links or something similar

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/laura_hudson/status/1025126245950926848

jfc

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

NYT / BBC slap fight... go!

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

DancingShade posted:

NYT / BBC slap fight... go!

lol I mean they made her say "I deleted my racist tweets" so...

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
I like that it’s not even called reverse racism now

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
The Amber frost, breunings, Jacobin, jeong, Chapo, neera tanden beef is incredibly insane and I'm excited it's getting relitigated

And nyt, wapo and bbc

mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 22:33 on Aug 2, 2018

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

mastershakeman posted:

The Amber frost, breunings, Jacobin, jeong, Chapo, neera tanden beef is incredibly insane and I'm excited it's getting relitigated

I can't believe anyone involved thought "this is what we should be doing today"

alsothere
Oct 14, 2014
Taco Defender
lmao at virgil pulling matt into this mess

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/FederalistPitch/status/1025132994711969792

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
there's like 40 threads for chapo poo poo

nothing wrong with it, but post it there, and not here, the Good Thread

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

an actual dog posted:

lol I mean they made her say "I deleted my racist tweets" so...

NEVER loving APOLOGIZE

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
tbh this is what she deserves for working for the collaborator media

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Al! posted:

tbh this is what she deserves for working for the collaborator media

:hmmyes:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

imagine being the woman with strange hat in that photo, and having newspapers imply by story placement that you were either a disabled woman who had been raped, or a kkk grand wizard.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008


LOL, no "racially charged tweets" or "heated gaming moments" for her, but if she was Lord Bumblefuck Childdespoiler they'd be tugging their forelocks

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013





you didn't just pull a Daily Mail cover and photoshop it

(note that it can't be the Daily Express, since there's no Princess Diana stories)

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

smdh at all the white genocide deniers itt

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
White genocide
When I started ballin’ I was Jeong

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

an actual dog posted:

lol I mean they made her say "I deleted my racist tweets" so...

Did she delete the tweets after the candid conversation or after they were discovered by Reddit?

:thunk:

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


some good news from the new yorker, osita is great

https://twitter.com/michaelluo/status/1025154150911422465?s=21

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Platystemon posted:

Did she delete the tweets after the candid conversation or after they were discovered by Reddit?

:thunk:

actually I'm not sure she deleted them lol

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

an actual dog posted:

actually I'm not sure she deleted them lol

You are right.

I only saw screenshots and archive links posted but they’re still there.

https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/492434240827822081

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

if she leaves them up for good I will never doubt her power

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


an actual dog posted:

if she leaves them up for good I will never doubt her power

Yeah those are the clean tweets. You should see the old ones about bofa

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

LGD posted:

again, me, because I loving hate it when people are disingenuous about this stuff because it happens to come from someone they like- I've liked sarah jeong's work for a long time, but edgelord posts about a subject are still posts about a subject (see: james gunn joking about pedophilia, uncouth rape jokes, etc.)

you shouldn't care about that stuff, especially when its brought up by the scum of the earth, but acting like you're confused about how explicitly eliminationist rhetoric can be interpreted as calling for genocide (when its the entire premise of the joke) and people are dumb for viewing it as such is loving nonsense

own your poo poo

Whether what you're calling "eliminationist rhetoric" is a problem depends entirely upon context. In the context of contemporary America, such rhetoric aimed at white people is not a problem, because white people are the dominant racial demographic in no danger of facing such an outcome. Such rhetoric aimed at other minority groups, on the other hand, is a problem, because those groups are actually exposed to the harmful effects of racism and have a reason to fear violence against them (state-sanctioned or otherwise).

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Ytlaya posted:

Whether what you're calling "eliminationist rhetoric" is a problem depends entirely upon context. In the context of contemporary America, such rhetoric aimed at white people is not a problem, because white people are the dominant racial demographic in no danger of facing such an outcome. Such rhetoric aimed at other minority groups, on the other hand, is a problem, because those groups are actually exposed to the harmful effects of racism and have a reason to fear violence against them (state-sanctioned or otherwise).

I agree that saying end white people is fine

however (and this is distinct from the sarah jeong thing) I think it's wrong for liberals to go on about how flyover states need to be bathed with cleansing fire. they've convinced themselves that millions of people, most of whom have very little relative power, are degenerates who deserve death because they voted wrong. this drives them (the liberals) further into the embrace of the fascist security state

e: realized the way I worded this made it look like I was doing the thing where you say people become fascist when you tell them they're racist which lol

e2: although that would be very on-point for the failing new york times thread

Zoran has issued a correction as of 02:17 on Aug 3, 2018

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Agean90 posted:

Yeah those are the clean tweets. You should see the old ones about bofa

what's bofa

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
haha no way

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Ytlaya posted:

Whether what you're calling "eliminationist rhetoric" is a problem depends entirely upon context. In the context of contemporary America, such rhetoric aimed at white people is not a problem, because white people are the dominant racial demographic in no danger of facing such an outcome. Such rhetoric aimed at other minority groups, on the other hand, is a problem, because those groups are actually exposed to the harmful effects of racism and have a reason to fear violence against them (state-sanctioned or otherwise).

why are you telling me how a thing I repeatedly said wasn't a problem isn't a problem? you're acting like I don't get this, or understand the joke - it's just a joke that can be described as genocidal with complete accuracy, because that is the joke's deliberately provacative fundamental premise

I'm not saying to take right-wingers pearl clutching about it seriously, I'm not telling you to think it's "problematic," I'm just saying that the thing the bitcoin of weed was doing where you're characterizing people on the "other side" as being totally removed from reality for giving a completely factual description of something (removed from context of course, but the context is still "why this joke about genocide is ok") and suggesting that "cancel [ethnic group]" totally has the same meaning as "cancel [television show]" is at best wildly unproductive, and at worst extremely harmful to causes you think you're helping (and not because you're alienating nazis)

LGD has issued a correction as of 02:42 on Aug 3, 2018

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
relax guys

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

LGD posted:

why are you telling me how a thing I repeatedly said wasn't a problem isn't a problem? you're acting like I don't get this, or understand the joke - it's just a joke that can be described as genocidal with complete accuracy, because that is the joke's deliberately provacative fundamental premise

I'm not saying to take right-wingers pearl clutching about it seriously, I'm not telling you to think it's "problematic," I'm just saying that the thing the bitcoin of weed was doing where you're characterizing people on the "other side" as being totally removed from reality for giving a completely factual description of something (removed from context of course, but the context is still "why this joke about genocide is ok") and suggesting that "cancel [ethnic group]" totally has the same meaning as "cancel [television show]" is at best wildly unproductive, and at worst extremely harmful to causes you think you're helping (and not because you're alienating nazis)

you're an idiot my dude

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 27 days!)

please stop trying to whitesplain white genocide to us, whitey

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Zoran posted:

I agree that saying end white people is fine

however (and this is distinct from the sarah jeong thing) I think it's wrong for liberals to go on about how flyover states need to be bathed with cleansing fire. they've convinced themselves that millions of people, most of whom have very little relative power, are degenerates who deserve death because they voted wrong. this drives them (the liberals) further into the embrace of the fascist security state

e: realized the way I worded this made it look like I was doing the thing where you say people become fascist when you tell them they're racist which lol

e2: although that would be very on-point for the failing new york times thread

That's just libs laundering their hatred of the poor, you see it all the time.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Everyone just leave this here

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014


lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/russellbrandom/status/1025122450684751873

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES



I won

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