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Ytlaya posted:It's been amazing how much the media has been flipping out over her. I can't count the number of articles I've seen that are negative about her in some way. idk if i'm --getting old enough to see the arc of history curve within my lifetime --getting fed up with everything --or if 2016 legitimately ruined everyone's brain at nyt/wapo at a time when they fired every single ombudsman and public editor but this is some sub-Xinhua levels of fix in the news coverage. its not even subdued liberal pearl-clutching pining for ideals that never were, its just overt puppetry and marketing applied to politics at this point.
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“Men like Brooks know, literally, nothing.” lmao https://twitter.com/jedediahspurdy/status/1028749579141955585?s=21
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Willie Tomg posted:idk if i'm You might actually be right about the latter, or at least that the centrist id has been unleashed when reality fully stops conforming to their expectations.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:You might actually be right about the latter, or at least that the centrist id has been unleashed when reality fully stops conforming to their expectations. I remember there being an article about centrists, and how they pretend to be the "resonable" people and how stuff like the Russia investigations is there way to cope woth a world where their own assumptions about their own place in the world has been put on its head.
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# ? Aug 13, 2018 06:13 |
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“the ideal solution is a mix of left wing and right wing policies” is a big reasonable moderate tell for someone who doesn’t know poo poo about anything.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:“the ideal solution is a mix of left wing and right wing policies” is a big reasonable moderate tell for someone who doesn’t know poo poo about anything. No you see America is an eagle. It needs both a left wing and a right wing to soar.
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# ? Aug 13, 2018 06:37 |
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Democratic socialism is perfectly acceptable as the right wing position, imo
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TrilliontonNixon posted:No you see America is an eagle. It needs both a left wing and a right wing to soar. Thanks Dennis!
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# ? Aug 13, 2018 12:58 |
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Public leftism was completely dead for thirty years, and the ghoulish consensus was able to do whatever it wanted with total impunity that entire time. The journalists, essentially, had no job but to justify the actions of the powers that be for that entire time, and they got lazy as poo poo about it. With a resurgent left, they literally have no idea what to do. There's no institutional knowledge or greybeards they can lean on for advice on how to combat leftism without seeming like a transparent shill for monied interested so we get this blatant bullshit.
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Bushiz posted:Public leftism was completely dead for thirty years, and the ghoulish consensus was able to do whatever it wanted with total impunity that entire time. The journalists, essentially, had no job but to justify the actions of the powers that be for that entire time, and they got lazy as poo poo about it. With a resurgent left, they literally have no idea what to do. There's no institutional knowledge or greybeards they can lean on for advice on how to combat leftism without seeming like a transparent shill for monied interested so we get this blatant bullshit. I dunno. The initial reaction seems to be to try and gatekeep with explainers to limit "socialism" to a strictly pro capitalist social democratic framework. That's gonna be pretty convincing for a lot of people. Their instinct is to set the limits of acceptable discourse.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I dunno. The initial reaction seems to be to try and gatekeep with explainers to limit "socialism" to a strictly pro capitalist social democratic framework. That's gonna be pretty convincing for a lot of people. Their instinct is to set the limits of acceptable discourse. The question is how good they are going to be at it. Trust in the media is already low and plummeting, and all it takes is for leftist politicians to actually outline their positions and properly campaign, and the answer to most questions is 'We're going to tax the loving rich bastards'.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The question is how good they are going to be at it. Trust in the media is already low and plummeting, and all it takes is for leftist politicians to actually outline their positions and properly campaign, and the answer to most questions is 'We're going to tax the loving rich bastards'.
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are the saudis paying them for this? embarrassing https://twitter.com/davidklion/status/1029007265255305216?s=21
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/opinion/susan-rice-saudi-canada-trump.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article Maybe the real best friends of autocrats are the people who are so decorum poisoned that they let their own sons become TPUSA monsters, Ms. Rice
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:are the saudis paying them for this? embarrassing If you want the media to uncritically parrot something, start a "think tank" and put out a paper with some big words in it. They'll just recite whatever you tell them to.
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Algund Eenboom posted:Now that the war is over, and there’s some difficulty with the peace, was it worth doing? The bubble turning out to be bad was a massive plot twist
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Bushiz posted:Public leftism was completely dead for thirty years, and the ghoulish consensus was able to do whatever it wanted with total impunity that entire time. The journalists, essentially, had no job but to justify the actions of the powers that be for that entire time, and they got lazy as poo poo about it. With a resurgent left, they literally have no idea what to do. There's no institutional knowledge or greybeards they can lean on for advice on how to combat leftism without seeming like a transparent shill for monied interested so we get this blatant bullshit. This hasn't entirely been the case in the UK and it's exactly the same here. They're also actively encouraging the far right in worse ways that in the us because a bunch of our mainstream press is also far right
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I dunno. The initial reaction seems to be to try and gatekeep with explainers to limit "socialism" to a strictly pro capitalist social democratic framework. That's gonna be pretty convincing for a lot of people. Their instinct is to set the limits of acceptable discourse. Not really. I mean they basically have just been putting out articles saying socialism is unacceptable, see the cuck Friesdorf whining recently. They have no real answer at all.
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Willie Tomg posted:but this is some sub-Xinhua levels of fix in the news coverage. its not even subdued liberal pearl-clutching pining for ideals that never were, its just overt puppetry and marketing applied to politics at this point. Yeah, I've mentioned before how all the "THE LEFT IS FAILING!" articles read like the sort of thing you'd show someone else as a textbook example of propaganda. TrilliontonNixon posted:No you see America is an eagle. It needs both a left wing and a right wing to soar. fuckin wisdom man, so wise...... Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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the old propaganda and argument was that capitalism was morally superior to socialism, one big point because capitalist democracies like the us were argued to be more democratic than authoritarian "socialist" countries like the soviet union and china (also because upward mobility existed in the US at the time). today this idea is laughable on its face so liberals are finding it impossible to make a moral argument for capitalism anymore
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...2a7a_story.htmlquote:Nothing was won in D.C. on Sunday. disrupting nazi rallies and physically protecting black lives matter protesters won't end racism, so it is therefore useless. quote:But on Sunday, after the sad little band of Unite the Right demonstrators retreated, the nouveau antifa was still looking for a fight.
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Crowsbeak posted:Not really. I mean they basically have just been putting out articles saying socialism is unacceptable, see the cuck Friesdorf whining recently. They have no real answer at all. The right wing press is always reflexively reactionary, but the liberals gatekeep.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You're operating within a pro-capitalist social-democratic framework here though. I think AOC has the best line for the current moment, where her platform is social democratic but she maintains an explicitly anti capitalist ideology.
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You gotta put your foot in the door first its AOC with the socdem stuff and in 6 months we have a whole new crop of new leftists who decided they're hardcore maoists
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The question is how good they are going to be at it. Trust in the media is already low and plummeting, and all it takes is for leftist politicians to actually outline their positions and properly campaign, and the answer to most questions is 'We're going to tax the loving rich bastards'. that's not socialism, and there aren't any actual socialists who have run for office.
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Phi230 posted:You gotta put your foot in the door Based on my interactions withc oconservatives at my groundskeeping job, the Maoists will be former conservatives. I've gotten a bunch on board with pretty much requiring everyone from the city to live and work on the countryside for two years after high school.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think AOC has the best line for the current moment, where her platform is social democratic but she maintains an explicitly anti capitalist ideology. 1. agitate for social democracy 2. radicalize the people 3. ??? 4. seize hte means of production
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think AOC has the best line for the current moment, where her platform is social democratic but she maintains an explicitly anti capitalist ideology. Having a maximum program and a minimum program is just a good idea in general.
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Phi230 posted:You gotta put your foot in the door the dems and centrists turning people into tankies wasn't the mid season reveal i was expecting, but i'll take it
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Phone posted:the dems and centrists turning people into tankies wasn't the mid season reveal i was expecting, but i'll take it this was already the fallout from 2016 and it'll just keep going
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https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1029248440692363269?s=19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTICWg-6hcQ https://www.weeklystandard.com/daniel-halper/three-senators-oppose-ground-zero-mosque quote:For McCain, his opinion on whether the Ground Zero mosque should be built, in his own words, is “obvious.” But he insisted, just as Senator Isakson had said, that he was merely voicing his personal preference, not what is acceptable according to the law: “I understand that I am a senator from Arizona, and I’m a long way from New York City. But I am entitled to my opinion. And obviously my opinion is that I’m opposed to it. I think that it’s something that would harm relations, rather than help.”
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Crowsbeak posted:Based on my interactions withc oconservatives at my groundskeeping job, the Maoists will be former conservatives. I've gotten a bunch on board with pretty much requiring everyone from the city to live and work on the countryside for two years after high school. indentured servitude to sate the egos and pockets of suburban racists is the most woke show those urbans what it's like to serve real america *whip crack* End boss Of SGaG* has issued a correction as of 09:34 on Aug 14, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1029148698947792896
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https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1029346322015571970?s=19
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Matt bruenig owns because he's ten times better at being a lanyard than every dipshit that's paid millions a year to be a lanyard and can effortlessly clown on them
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that’s because he possesses the most powerful ideology, the strongest “ism”, of them all
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# ? Aug 15, 2018 00:45 |
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AUTISM! Many such cases!
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speaking of the bruenigs debating right wing assholes https://twitter.com/ebruenig/status/1029492614465290240?s=21
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GalacticAcid posted:AUTISM! Many such cases!
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