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CaptainSarcastic posted:Before any of that we need testing, and lots of it. The thing that has hamstrung the US response all along is lack of testing, lack of ability to process tests, and a resulting lack of hard data. I personally know people who have been in quarantine for weeks with presumed covid-19, but they haven't been tested. Test for infection, test for antibodies, loving test everyone everywhere all the time. Unfortunately supply chains to conduct the tests are really strained because EVERYONE wants the testing materials, and there are only so many machines (China is supposedly buying fuckloads of them, by the way) and reagents. It takes time to make the kinds of enzymes and other chemicals needed to run this poo poo. Antibody tests have been approved, at least. Those are simpler to run than PCR because antibodies are hardy molecules (i.e. they're relatively inhibitor-tolerant), don't require fancy thermal cycling/optical detection, and because antibodies in the blood are pretty goddamn concentrated (can be ~nanomolar for IgG against a given antigen, which is quite a lot actually). Anime Schoolgirl posted:This figure also doesn't count how many people who are dying in their homes silently.
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I said come in! posted:I am almost afraid to ask, but what is Hawaii doing about its homeless population? Reconfiguring shelters for better social distancing Seizing empty buildings for more shelter space And anyone coming in on a plane without accommodation is sent back. A few homeless people tried to come in on flights and discovered that there's a mandatory 14 day quarantine for incoming flights and got sent home
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I work in an area that's essentially ground zero for corona cases in the US and I've had very, very minor bouts of scratchy throat that comes and goes in a matter of hours. At this point I assume I'm an asymptomatic carrier, but who knows? I'm probably a dead man. Or I'll accidentally kill my parents. LOL
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Famethrowa posted:pretty good walk-through of a wet-market with a insightful comment from a dude who lives there Mexican markets are not that different, yet I see a lot of Mexicans being xenophobic idiots parroting the same Fox bullshit. Fish market? Fish and other sea creatures all around! Oh yeah, they sell you live crabs and kill them right there in front of you. It's...kinda gruesome, but they taste good. Regular marker? Be ready for seeing pig heads hanging from a hook while you are being offered pork meat. (I dunno if it's still a common practice, but it's something I saw a lot during my childhood). Chickens are still displayed in all their gory glory to costumers. Where I live people also consume animals that would be considered "exotic": iguanas, turtles, rain-forest mammals -raccoons included-. Heck, there's a northern state that has rat soup and people eat it as a remedy against the common flu. And the old urban legend of taco vendors using dog and cat meat. And there's of course, the people selling meat from stolen cows. (Little side talk, a friend of my sister's actually died from liver failure after consuming fresh cheese that was contaminated with certain bacteria.  My family is very weary of buying cheese from street vendors/market vendors).
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So been a great weekend. Yesterday the neighbor's were out front having a brawl. Few punches mostly wrestling followed by ridic driving away. Today I got a full loving shoot out. Multiple cops, multiple gunshots. Mrs. comes in mah room (I was gaming) and says oh there's cops and fireworks, I take off headphones and go oh, get in the basement now. For real NOW!. 1 more gunshot and now no more cops. No CSI follow up is creepy.
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, and if the hospital doesn't have its own testing machines, and many don't, they have to send away for results. My mom (an infection control nurse) said they're waiting 5-7+ days for results in her hospital because they're sending the samples off to some distant Quest Diagnostics lab or whatever. At some point the results will just be invalid or the patient will be dead. My best friend is a respiratory therapist (out on maternity leave, thank God), and several of her coworkers have already had vented patients die before their tests came back positive.
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We're in lockdown in New Zealand and we've had one death from the Roni. The latest update on our condition from local media and the Government.quote:Young New Zealanders have contacted TVNZ about the easter bunny It's going to be tough to explain to the kids why the Easter Bunny needed to be taken off the ventilator in intensive care.
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Platystemon posted:
A CHALLENGER APPEARS https://twitter.com/KRyan2014/status/1246690103847792643
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Frank Sidebottom posted:Honest question. Had Trump told anyone to take chloroquine or that it is the cure? Or is it more along the lines of "it's promising, and we're going to speed up trials on it"? https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241367239900778501?s=21 https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241367245143642113?s=21
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Famethrowa posted:pretty good walk-through of a wet-market with a insightful comment from a dude who lives there Okay so that's a video of one ok market deemed average (well close to I just don't remember what direction) by the host. I assume almost everyone (if not everyone) here on this forum isn't saying all wet markets are super unsanitary and so showing a video of one being fine, doesn't really mean much. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Has China banned grocery stores yet? Food pellets can be distributed directly to homes. Choose from 3 flavors red, yellow and green.
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now show us the wet market where you can get bats and pangolins
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Duck and Cover posted:Okay so that's a video of one ok market deemed average (well close to I just don't remember what direction) by the host. I assume almost everyone here on this forum isn't saying all wet markets are super unsanitary and so showing a video of one being fine, doesn't really mean much. So what you want someone to take a video of every market in China? There's a ton of people who have no idea what a wet market is outside of what's shown on Fox news and the dude wanted to make a video so at least something shows the reality, and it's concise and well made video.
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don't worry about those other wet markets that literally caused the world to shut down, some of them are totally fine!!
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It's literally a farmers market. You might as well say people shouldn't live in cities as cities allow for the spread of disease.
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Ah yes that sounds right. Gimme a min gotta go pick up a bat for dinner
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LimburgLimbo posted:It's literally a farmers market. lol imagine trying to defend the wet markets.
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Duck and Cover posted:Okay so that's a video of one ok market deemed average (well close to I just don't remember what direction) by the host. I assume almost everyone (if not everyone) here on this forum isn't saying all wet markets are super unsanitary and so showing a video of one being fine, doesn't really mean much. I've seen a lot of weird hysterical talk about wet markets here and in the news. It's good to see a fairly mundane market in a mundane Chinese city, to counter the really ignorant xenophobia floating around
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Duck and Cover posted:Okay so that's a video of one ok market deemed average (well close to I just don't remember what direction) by the host. I assume almost everyone (if not everyone) here on this forum isn't saying all wet markets are super unsanitary and so showing a video of one being fine, doesn't really mean much. Nitr0 posted:Ah yes that sounds right. MarcusSA posted:lol imagine trying to defend the wet markets. There's your answer.
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Oh you dont like bats? Thats ok gimme a min Ill go grab a dog or something.
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LimburgLimbo posted:It's literally a farmers market. It sells wild game which is a huge difference duder.
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Left my essential job doing takeout at a local spot about 5 days ago. Been home with cold sweats and chest pressure that seems to lessen day by day, a little scared but super thankful for animal crossing.
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Dont you understand? Were all xenophobic, dont mind this, everything is fine, eat your god drat virgin boy egg.
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If you read the actual words in that post, they're interesting and informative
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Anne Whateley posted:If you read the actual words in that post, they're interesting and informative Nah, we gotta get in more bat soup jokes
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What I find nearly more distressing than the global pandemic bringing down the entire SystemŽ is so many goons' fascination with goddamn Animal Crossing, what seems to be an overglorified Pokemon Second Life. WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
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Famethrowa posted:I've seen a lot of weird hysterical talk about wet markets here and in the news. It's good to see a fairly mundane market in a mundane Chinese city, to counter the really ignorant xenophobia floating around Sure. However I think the issue here is people using wet market to refer to "those bad markets with all the live slaughter/unsanitary conditions with the live animals", while some people want to go no not all wet markets while failing to understand the intent behind what is being said. The people using wet market aren't actually talking about the broad definition of wet market. There's certainly xenophobes who think all the markets serve delicious bat/pangolin burgers but I'm pretty sure they aren't here. LimburgLimbo posted:There's your answer. See. Doesn't understand intent. edit: added with "the live animals". Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Unsanitary markets in any culture are bad.
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Duck and Cover posted:Sure. However I think the issue here is people using wet market to refer to "those bad markets with all the live slaughter/unsanitary conditions", while some people want to go no not all wet markets while failing to understand the intent behind what is being said. The people using wet market aren't actually talking about the broad definition of wet market. I understand their intent; these people don't know what they're talking about.
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MarcusSA posted:Unsanitary markets in any culture are bad. Leave Walmart out of this
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MarcusSA posted:Unsanitary markets in any culture are bad. Sanitation isnt the major concern. Its species. No amount of hygiene can ameliorate the risk that certain animals have to incubate diseases that can jump to us. A bat that is sold dead and irradiated or cooked isnt going to infect anyone at the market or at home, but where did that bat come from? Breeding or hunting bats repeatedly brings people into close contact with live ones, and that is an unacceptable risk. The risk we currently take on with the factory farming of swine and poultry is also unacceptable, but politically thats a much tougher nut to crack, and it isnt like stopping the trade of bats, pangolins, and primates worldwide is itself easy.
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Yo can I get a few duck embryos, Im sick of chicken.
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Bronze Fonz posted:What I find nearly more distressing than the global pandemic bringing down the entire SystemŽ is so many goons' fascination with goddamn Animal Crossing, what seems to be an overglorified Pokemon Second Life. Same. It's loving depressing.
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Bronze Fonz posted:What I find nearly more distressing than the global pandemic bringing down the entire System® is so many goons' fascination with goddamn Animal Crossing, what seems to be an overglorified Pokemon Second Life. I don't own it but its a chill game that you can play online with friends and has different poo poo each day which maybe has an appeal during a worldwide pandemic and lockdown???
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Telsa Cola posted:I don't own it but its a chill game that you can play online with friends and has different poo poo each day which maybe has an appeal during a worldwide pandemic and lockdown??? What is this "friends" you speak of?
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Just loving re-install Skyrim like the rest of us normies.
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Bronze Fonz posted:What I find nearly more distressing than the global pandemic bringing down the entire SystemŽ is so many goons' fascination with goddamn Animal Crossing, what seems to be an overglorified Pokemon Second Life. I have so many books, I can build a giant throne of books, and from that throne, cry I don't have Pokemon Second Life. What you want people to do? number crunching? essentialist experiments?, people try to have fun and chill around, and having a tarantula collection in Animal Crossing is one way to do that thing.
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Bronze Fonz posted:Just loving re-install Skyrim like the rest of us normies. Install all the porn mods
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