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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Lodin posted:

Look at this nice man, can you guess what he wants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6B9Mmvpyo

that right there is a sociopath

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Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Bleusilences posted:

Like I said in another thread I am almost a shut in and I am going nuts to not be able to do simple thing like go get a coffee. I can't imagine what/how an extrovert feels like right now.

I've gone decades on my own with barely any actual contact so I'm fine with this, but I get that I'm a serious outlier. My facebook is full of people that seem to be close to snapping already.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Kase Im Licht posted:

One, please show me where I said we must do this now.

Second, your statement is obviously false without context. If you can handle the peak, it being a peak is irrelevant.

1. You said open things up with no further qualification if you want people to think you’re talking about a month from now then maybe say that, otherwise the default is that you’re talking about now.

2. Opening things up at the peak you could have handled creates a new higher peak that you likely won’t be able to handle.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Hopper posted:

We have seen pandemics before. The problem wit this one is that people are not scared. People will not adhere to restrictions until everybody knows at least 1 person who is severely suffering or died of this. Then they might start to be afraid. But today's society is far to used to being safe to realize this poo poo is at your doorstep everywhere.

This might also be different if Corona was some nasty rear end illness that makes you bleed from all orifices or explodes your head, footage would be all over the Internet and it would be tangible. Right now it is "just the flu" and nobody cares.

It also didn't help that there was a lot of miss information about how this virus only kills the elderly and those with disabilities. We as a society have always been okay with murdering the disabled, but it blew my mind how quickly people were happy to be vocal about allowing vulnerable groups of people to die over this.

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

Most goons saying society will open up sooner rather than later are not actually advocating for this. They’re just saying an anecdotal prediction based upon fairly predictable human traits

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

I said come in! posted:

It also didn't help that there was a lot of miss information about how this virus only kills the elderly and those with disabilities. We as a society have always been okay with murdering the disabled, but it blew my mind how quickly people were happy to be vocal about allowing vulnerable groups of people to die over this.

Oh like it wasn't here on this very forum

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Lodin posted:

Look at this nice man, can you guess what he wants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6B9Mmvpyo

Oh hey, funny story about this guy and the church he refuses to close down

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_aaa0b8d8-7ff8-11ea-a3d0-f783addab65b.html

https://twitter.com/jilliancyork/status/1250848404030337029

https://twitter.com/jilliancyork/status/1250848407020847105

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Noblesse Obliged posted:

Most goons saying society will open up sooner rather than later are not actually advocating for this. They’re just saying an anecdotal prediction based upon fairly predictable human traits

Yeah, pretty much.

Personally I'm not a very big fan since I'm on two different immunosuppressing medications, one of which needs to be administered in a hospital every six weeks over the course of two hours. My last visit made me really paranoid.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

Nurge posted:

The problem is you can't keep people doing this for that long. People are literally going crazy because they're not used to being alone. Like a year is pushing it.

Yeah this would likely require a massive change in the way people live. On the social front, a lot of people are going to go insane. On the economic front, governments would have to almost go full on Communist to not starve their populations. Then in places like the US you have a swathes of people who would want to shoot at the government about that, which is tons of fun.

The thing that scares me the most here is that over time the idea of "getting it over with" may become more and more popular. Especially with politicians. The problem is, that is largely based on the idea that this would be like the flu, where it spreads and kills really bad for a year or so, then becomes endemic and becomes more mild. What I'd be worried about is that assumption being wrong and us ending up with an endemic disease with a mortality rate anywhere from 1 to 5%. Basically decimating humanity until we develop a vaccine or rapid cure.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Bleusilences posted:

Trudeau(Canada's PM) says that we wont get anything resembling normalcy until 2022.

Right that’s what I said ?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Pick posted:

Man, remember when you were a kid, and the ending of the velveteen rabbit was so sad, because they took the rabbit that had disease on it and threw it in the fire. You probably cried and stuff. And you had no idea that when you were a grown-up that the US president was gonna do that to your grandma

Riatsala
Nov 20, 2013

All Princesses are Tyrants

Noblesse Obliged posted:

Most goons saying society will open up sooner rather than later are not actually advocating for this. They’re just saying an anecdotal prediction based upon fairly predictable human traits

Exactly. If I had it my way we wouldn't even be talking about reopening but I have about zero faith that the governor is going to extend it past the end of the month.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1250851143363805185

Dust off your hard hats, fellas!

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Burt Sexual posted:

Right that’s what I said ?

Pfft, like we'd listen to the the words of someone who is not a high school drama teacher.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012


What a crazy couple weeks this once in a century pandemic turned out to be

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

wilderthanmild posted:

Yeah this would likely require a massive change in the way people live. On the social front, a lot of people are going to go insane. On the economic front, governments would have to almost go full on Communist to not starve their populations. Then in places like the US you have a swathes of people who would want to shoot at the government about that, which is tons of fun.

The thing that scares me the most here is that over time the idea of "getting it over with" may become more and more popular. Especially with politicians. The problem is, that is largely based on the idea that this would be like the flu, where it spreads and kills really bad for a year or so, then becomes endemic and becomes more mild. What I'd be worried about is that assumption being wrong and us ending up with an endemic disease with a mortality rate anywhere from 1 to 5%. Basically decimating humanity until we develop a vaccine or rapid cure.

Option 3 is the population is selected for the people who don't contract the disease.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

I said come in! posted:

I understand that, but it would be nice if people didn't believe we can actually open things back up. Keeping things shut down voluntarily helps prevent deaths and people getting sick. Opening things back up again, results in millions upon millions of people getting sick, and millions dead, and everything shuts down by force anyways.

you are assuming that people will willing go back to work when they are still in danger. "opening up" could just as easily lead to a general strike

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Burt Sexual posted:

The most realistic lockdown duration I’ve heard is through 2021, 2022 isn’t mainstream from what I’ve seen. Hell la even shutdown all events until 2022 starts.

Here in Orlando where the economy relies on tourists who are driven here by theme parks (which are, if you think about it, supermassive social gatherings, the largest in the world) we are not going to be able to even begin to recover until we have a reliable vaccine. Disney and Universal know that reopening pre-vaccine means, in a very tangible way, killing guests and employees on a regular basis.

That's a PR hit they won't take. It would sink the parks globally if even one reopens and becomes the epicenter of a new outbreak.

So that means 2021 is a fairly generous estimate for our economy to find it's feet again, and when it does we will have to contend with people still being afraid, still being unwilling to stand in large groups or long lines, still being unable to travel due to their personal economic situation (as they empty their savings to pay bills during this years-long crisis) and outbreaks still happening, though on a much smaller scale, among the unvaccinated going to the parks.

So yes, we may "reopen" in 2021, but if you think the Orlando economy will meaningfully recover before 2022 I think you're hallucinating. We'll probably have a big rush where whatever politicians will declare the problems "over" right as the parks reopen and the Annual Pass holders and borderline-religious theme park attendees flock to their happy place, but park attendance overall will likely not reach 2019 levels for several years, and entire sectors of our economy will wither and die on the vine as a result of the decreased tourism.

This will change Orlando (and other tourist economies) literally forever.

E: This may literally destroy Vegas entirely. There is no reason for them to exist beyond colossal gatherings of people (shows, casinos, restaurants, clubs) so they may not be able to meaningfully recover on any timeline.

Shit Fuckasaurus fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Apr 16, 2020

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Lol Ohio's going to reopen May 1st. Which is when the health department originally estimated cases would peak.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004


And to think if China didn’t lie, we could’ve reopened America weeks ago!

*trump brain intensifies*

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Nov elections are going to be wild.

"Will you live to see who wins?"

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Wait, his famous ceo panel hasn’t even met!

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Rutibex posted:

you are assuming that people will willing go back to work when they are still in danger. "opening up" could just as easily lead to a general strike

I would think healthcare being unaffordable for the average person would also lead to a general strike but america just keeps on trucking

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

Burt Sexual posted:

Right that’s what I said ?

Yes! I was just giving an example :)

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Cthulu Carl posted:

Lol Ohio's going to reopen May 1st. Which is when the health department originally estimated cases would peak.

I wonder if they'll just end up with a second wave of closings when people go back to work and start getting sick and dying. I live next door in Indiana and while our governor is a shitbird (less so than Pence, though), we're not budging yet. Hopefully we stay closed longer.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Andrast posted:

I would think healthcare being unaffordable for the average person would also lead to a general strike but america just keeps on trucking

We already have too many homeless people.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



boar guy posted:

that right there is a sociopath

Lmao he stole his kid's stimulus money

I got legit chills reading this. That idiot fucker is going to kill so many people. I hope most people just ignore him.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

we're already a loving month in to this thing, why not ride it out one more month

the last month will have meant nothing if we open up now

please for the love of jebus let this be him announcing the 6 things that will have to be in place before we can open back up, like CA has done

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

I'm starting to think that this Trump guy is a giant loving moron

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Hmm... maybe it matters who is president

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Lodin posted:

Look at this nice man, can you guess what he wants?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6B9Mmvpyo

lol here he is getting a summons for continuing to have services during a state of emergency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNLst-gh9Q

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

sweet thursday posted:

I'm starting to think that this Trump guy is a giant loving moron

There's no proof that having sex with giants gives you covid-19.

Fabulousity
Dec 29, 2008

Number One I order you to take a number two.

boar guy posted:

we're already a loving month in to this thing, why not ride it out one more month

the last month will have meant nothing if we open up now

please for the love of jebus let this be him announcing the 6 things that will have to be in place before we can open back up, like CA has done

Trump publicly making GBS threads all over CA's and WA's gubernatorial leadership for being proactive about the virus resulting in them being the first states to plateau, and then a month later pointing to both states plateauing as evidence that the nation is ready to "open up for business again" is just so beyond galaxy brained it can only be called dotard brained.

I mean he hasn't done that yet but I wouldn't be remotely surprised if that's what happens during his rally tonight.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Andrast posted:

I would think healthcare being unaffordable for the average person would also lead to a general strike but america just keeps on trucking

We Americans are bitch made lmao

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

I am stating to think that cat wasn't the worst thing that happened this year....

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
I'm literally going to stay in doors until November and I don't care if I go insane

e: more insane

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It turns out the only cure for covid is allowing major marvel characters to be for real gay and showing it onscreen for a significant proportion of the overall runtime

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


coronavirus posted:

Exactly. Its way too early to tell if it will end up being a good treatment. But there is enough there to be worth doing trials.

HCQ is a real medicine which has some promise (potentially) for treatment. It is not a facebook fwd of "put onions in your socks to cure your flu" or "if i drink enough cold juices it will cure my pancreatic cancer fwd fwd stevejobs".

Ignoring the fact that the one study claiming it to be effective was done without robust controls or sample size and has been roundly disclaimed by the rest of the scientific community and every other study so far that has a bigger dataset has not shown any effectiveness for HCQ while other studies have halted prematurely or halted some dosage regimens due to the number of side effects.

But you know, keep misquoting people and ignoring evidence contrary to your opinion.

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Just open up the gyms and haircut places again for essentials only, that's all I really want.

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Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/wwe-essential-business-florida-1234580205/

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