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i'm going to be sad when kishibe gets killed in one hit. but maybe makima does have good intentions toward humanity even after what we've seen. that just may mean a benevolent dictatorship, however
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 05:42 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 17:35 |
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I'm curious what Makima's original plan was here. She quite obviously expected Denji to ask for sex, yet she invited Power over with a birthday cake? Did she intend to go "hey lemme kill power real quick then we can bone" or something? It's also interesting that she specifically ordered Denji to open the door rather than open it herself. All she did was a finger gun, it's not like she needed both hands. My best guess for that is to really load him up with guilt so he becomes more reliant on her. Although I guess we'll need to see what happens next chapter to have a better guess.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 05:59 |
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I honestly dont know how much more of this I can take. Theres no amount of comeuppance that Makima can face that will make up for this and sending Aki-47 after Denji
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 07:29 |
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What a weird chapter. I feel like she's dead, but there's something really jarring about how he starts to fall asleep and then Makima executes Power with an ability we've not seen her use on panel while Denji is confused about cake that wasn't referenced when he was last with Power. Wasn't he supposed to be bringing her something? Especially given how much emphasis there was on Aki experiencing something that was a distortion of the real world. Dunno. Trippy.CodfishCartographer posted:I'm curious what Makima's original plan was here. She quite obviously expected Denji to ask for sex, yet she invited Power over with a birthday cake? Did she intend to go "hey lemme kill power real quick then we can bone" or something? It's also interesting that she specifically ordered Denji to open the door rather than open it herself. All she did was a finger gun, it's not like she needed both hands. My best guess for that is to really load him up with guilt so he becomes more reliant on her. Although I guess we'll need to see what happens next chapter to have a better guess. Power doesn't look all there in the panel. And Denji's hands are cold again.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 08:07 |
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i never understand why people say they didn't like the ending of fire punch, i loved the hell out if it though i could see if you were reading it weekly it would feel paced weird maybe
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 08:48 |
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CodfishCartographer posted:I'm curious what Makima's original plan was here. She quite obviously expected Denji to ask for sex, yet she invited Power over with a birthday cake? Did she intend to go "hey lemme kill power real quick then we can bone" or something? It's also interesting that she specifically ordered Denji to open the door rather than open it herself. All she did was a finger gun, it's not like she needed both hands. My best guess for that is to really load him up with guilt so he becomes more reliant on her. Although I guess we'll need to see what happens next chapter to have a better guess. I think it's a basic "Oh, you're sure just letting other people make your decisions will work out perfectly? Here! Not thinking for yourself lead DIRECTLY to the EASILY AVOIDABLE murder of your partner!" message. It's not about killing Power. It's about the effect killing Power has on Denji. It's hard to get more reliant than "I will not make a single choice on my own for the rest of my life". But if Denji REFUSING to make choices leads to consequences even worse than even his bad choices, then it forces him to grow up a little more. In the most painful way possible. As for the cake, it's possible it was also part of a general "Make Denji feel better" plan, like the movies, or paying for drinks. Makima can switch from "Nice boss" to "Will kill your entire family" on a dime. Best to have things ready for whichever way the night goes.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 09:06 |
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the gun devil pulled a real genocide and killed aki not too long ago and makima STILL seems more hosed up than him, this manga is insane
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 09:48 |
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For some reason, the Bill Hicks bit about Reginald Denny comes to mind... At this rate, Reginald Denji will be afraid to ever open another door again :/
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 14:01 |
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Is this manga ending soon?
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:13 |
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Well it's running out of loving characters at this rate so I'm assuming.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:29 |
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Thoren posted:Is this manga ending soon? Probably not. Jump tends to announce the conclusion of a popular series is coming months in advance, and given the number of series that have ended lately, they're unlikely to let a popular and growing series go without at least asking if there's room to continue it. (Also, there's that rumor circulating that the Gun Devil arc was only the first of three big turning points in the manga, but I can't find the original source, so... not strong evidence either way.)
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:32 |
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Guys I want off the ride now Can I get off
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:45 |
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there are whole other countries full of devil hunters to kill off before this is done.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:51 |
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We haven't even hit the tournament arc yet, it's still a long way before it jumps the beam.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:53 |
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Nighthand posted:We haven't even hit the tournament arc yet, it's still a long way before it jumps the beam. Forgetting the greatest tournament arc in Jump's history. For shame.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 20:57 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Guys Ask Makima [quote="“chiasaur11”" post="“507471625”"] Forgetting the greatest tournament arc in Jump’s history. For shame. [/quote] Good times, good times.
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 22:21 |
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I still can't believe they killed Power
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# ? Aug 22, 2020 23:27 |
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this train ain't got no brakes
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 17:39 |
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Viz Mangaplus Even worse the second time. Aki...that future really was inescapable huh. Does this mean the Gun Devil is under Makima control now or is this something she did before?
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 17:42 |
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For whatever reason there's so many little weird things around this chapter that i keep grasping at the idea it could be some sort of fakout. The fact that it doesn't quite match what the Future Devil said (maybe) Denji seemingly knowing about the cake (birthdays=cake though, so not exactly out of the realm of his train of thought) How nervous Power seemed as she was standing there (but i think she's always nervous around Makima) Some other stuff lately i can't quite articulate. Unfortunately, even adding up all this stuff (if it's even stuff) doesn't actually have to equal "she's actually alive! it was just a dream/simaculum/clone" and in fact, is extremely unlikely to.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 18:57 |
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a kitten posted:For whatever reason there's so many little weird things around this chapter that i keep grasping at the idea it could be some sort of fakout. If Denji wakes up and it was all a dream, then we have to go through Power and possibly Aki's deaths again
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 19:17 |
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THIS SUCKS! I HATE THE FUTURE! I feel this even more with every new chapter
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 19:42 |
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I'm not sure if I'd feel better if this was all undone tbh, because then it would feel like death is something casually tossed around for shock value instead of how it has always been very final and blunt up to this point. Even if Denji pulls Power back from Hell or whatever that's just gonna be a different character, and would ultimately just be Denji trying to make her be who she was before she died. Power is dead and given how her and Aki were the only elements of the story Denji put before Makima, it feels like this was constructed as a win-win situation for Makima. Denji doesn't open the door? He becomes more independent which is what she wants, so win there. Denji opens the door? She now has a dog completely unmoored from any semblance of happiness besides her control, so win.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 20:23 |
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Chainsaw Man: Never open doors
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 20:44 |
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Spiderdrake posted:Power doesn't look all there in the panel. No kiddin’.
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# ? Aug 23, 2020 21:54 |
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How would Denji even get to Hell?
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 00:06 |
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What would happen if Denji listened to his chainsaw heart and didn’t keep opening these doors?
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 00:33 |
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I am waiting for Door Devil.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 04:09 |
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Apocron posted:What would happen if Denji listened to his chainsaw heart and didn’t keep opening these doors? Power would probably still be alive, for one thing. Beyond that... well, I suppose Makima would say something about Denji clearly not wanting to be her dog if he was questioning orders like that. Best case, she'd ask what he wanted instead, then Power could come in bringing cake, and everyone would have a nice evening. Worst case, well, there's a lot of room for worst cases.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 05:19 |
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Yeah, I think I’m taking a long break from this, that one really bummed me out more than I thought it would. Well written, I’m just not in the place for multiple gut punches atm.
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 05:22 |
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I'm glad Denji and Makima finally got to bang
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 07:03 |
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I think the theory that Makima is trying to teach Denji to think for himself is accurate. I don’t have any clue what the endgame is for that, though. Probably something to do with the back and forth between Angel and Aki about the last noise devils hear before they die. This chapter really gave me that end of Cowboy Bebop gut punch all over again. I love how this manga makes me feel. I also hate it. But I love that I hate it. Chainsaw Man remains a land of contrasts. Archenteron posted:I'm glad Denji and Makima finally got to bang lol. drat
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 21:56 |
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Archenteron posted:I'm glad Denji and Makima finally got to bang Denji wasn't the one who got banged
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 22:38 |
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When are we going to get a spinoff manga about the coolest character, The Future Devil?
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 23:44 |
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CodfishCartographer posted:When are we going to get a spinoff manga about the coolest character, The Future Devil? Do you think the future devil ever secretly reminisces about all the sweet futures he's given. What he did to aki has got to be in his top 10. That'd be against everything he stands for since he'd be thinking about the past instead of a potentially cooler future
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# ? Aug 24, 2020 23:57 |
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Happy birthday Denji! https://twitter.com/4gu07se/status/1297659298441396224?s=09 🎉🎉
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# ? Aug 25, 2020 00:13 |
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irrelevant to the stuff that just happened, but: didn't Violence die in Hell? That might prove to be a problem. (Also Beam, but "violence" is a bigger deal fear wise. Possibly the biggest?)
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# ? Aug 25, 2020 18:37 |
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Dzhay posted:irrelevant to the stuff that just happened, but: didn't Violence die in Hell? Death's probably the biggest.
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# ? Aug 25, 2020 18:39 |
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McTimmy posted:Death's probably the biggest. We haven't seen the Death Devil yet, correct? It's been established there are "primal" fears, of which Darkness is one. I imagine Death has to be one too. I wonder what the rest are? Could probably make an argument that Control Devil is up there, since "Loss of Autonomy" is listed as one of the 5 basic fears of psychology - the others being extinction (death), mutilation, separation, and ego-death (humilation, shame, loss of ability to be loved, etc). I could also see God Devil being a primal fear as well, as "fear of god" is definitely a major thing in humanity.
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# ? Aug 25, 2020 19:00 |
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What do you think is the least powerful devil?
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