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Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I looked up those books but they’re so old there isn’t even a summary on goodreads :(

Edit: type is coming out really small on this post, let’s see if editing fixes it

Ccs fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Mar 22, 2021

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General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

StrixNebulosa posted:

Have you read this Nightrider? That book was jawdroppingly good and portrayed spaceflight in a way I don't think I've seen...ever.

Yes, I loved Nightrider! His books are like the literalized version of that archetypical 80s "synthetic point of view gliding over a wireframe landscape" idea of war. I think there's literally a scene of that in Nightrider when they're mapping the planet looking for the bad guy base.

Like Fire Lance it's pretty much totally nihilistic but at least in Nightrider they get laid.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Mister Kingdom posted:

I'm reading the latest Bobiverse novel. Anyone else?

I love the Bobiverse books. Like I know they are crap, but at the same time I enjoy them immensely. It's like reading a well written narrative of my scifi daydreams.

tiniestacorn
Oct 3, 2015

I finished A Desolation Called Peace in a two sittings and now I'm bereft. The Masquerade/Teixcalaan/Locked Tombs books are my only appointment reads right now, and Alecto and Baru 4 are still so far away. ;-;

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Mister Kingdom posted:

I'm reading the latest Bobiverse novel. Anyone else?

I really enjoyed the first one, but the latter two don't quite live up to the conceit. Still fun, even if I cared less for the later characters.

D-Pad posted:

I love the Bobiverse books. Like I know they are crap, but at the same time I enjoy them immensely. It's like reading a well written narrative of my scifi daydreams.

I recently discovered that there's a 4th book now. How does it compare to the original trilogy? About the same to book 2 or 3, or does it dip upwards/downwards?

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



D-Pad posted:

I love the Bobiverse books. Like I know they are crap, but at the same time I enjoy them immensely. It's like reading a well written narrative of my scifi daydreams.

Bobiverse has just enough hard science to be credible and the main character is a better than average engineer who is used to isolation. So it's not impossible to imagine that the target audience could be a keppler probe too and explore the universe and save humanity with advanced tech and a robot brain.

Some spoilers ahead for thoughts on the series.

What I enjoy more than the science are the aliens which are varying degrees of fleshed out. I loved the stone age bat people that original Bob just chilled out with as he vacillated between saving the sentient spices from extermination, felt weird about playing god sometimes, the tribe exiled Bob, who was essentially a kind of defacto sky deity after he hosed up a few times (lol), then he slipped into a new bat body so he could continue being around them without the baggage of being said sky deity and generally wanted to chill out and have a life with his best friend who just so happened to be a sentient stone age bat person. It's weird but it works for me.

The latest book had a lot of unresolved plot points with groups of neutral and antagonistic Bobs. I was waiting for them to go somewhere and they sort of did, but it was never explained why the antagonistic Bobs were antagonistic other than a stated difference of opinion which didn't really satisfy me because the author stated that it wasn't real. That was disappointing.

They did have a neat society of platypus people who didn't realize they were living on a planet sized megastructure and there was this problem that without any evolutionary pressure, intelligence was no longer being selected for due to no natural predators and easy living off the land that they were slowly going feral. Not an evil or nasty feral, but they were slowly becoming dumber. They were looking at a weird kind of doom where in a dozen or so generations they may revert to animals. I think the author could do to learn about speciation where some of the people become dumber and some would stay smart and you'd slowly end up with two or more distinct species over time. He really needed to speak to a biologist about some of his work. However, the premise of a system that provided basically everything you needed to the point that society was no longer necessary and how society and the people who make it up would devolve over time was an interesting one. In the text is a kind of cautionary tale in what a post-scarcity society might do to people if they no longer have to rely on one another.


The series scratches a weird itch for me and I enjoy it, but his latest book really needed some more work.

Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Mar 22, 2021

Crashbee
May 15, 2007

Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.
Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky is one of today's UK Kindle deals https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08DJBQ...rd_i=5400977031

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

General Battuta posted:

My comfort read Fire Lance

I still have this on my Goodreads TBR list from when you last recommended it and intend to buy it next time I buy myself a whole bunch of second-hand Abebooks books to slowly arrive in the mail as forgotten gifts to myself 8-12 weeks later

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

StrixNebulosa posted:

So what are you reading?

After all the culture talk last few weeks I started reading them again, it's been years...

Just finished state of the art and on to excession

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I'm reading the second Salvation novel by Peter F. Hamilton. The first one was decent, so we'll see how this goes. The setup of the first one was 3 points in time, "now", "back then" and "far future" and I did not care for the far future stuff as much.

But I can't resist a scifi world with portal technology.

Ben Nevis
Jan 20, 2011

StrixNebulosa posted:

So what are you reading?

Book of Malachi. A guy who had a tongue cut out when he was a teen winds up working in an offshore rig illegally growing black market organs in prisoners. Does he tough it out for 6 months and get a tongue? Does he try and free people and possibly get them all killed? And cost his coworkers the organs they were promised? It's interesting. I'm about 50 pages from the end and normally by now I'd have a good sense of how I'll rate it, but I'm not sure here. We'll see I guess.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

About halfway through KJ Parker's Father of Lies

Only recently discovered Parker after reading 16 Ways to Defend a Walled City, but I really like his style and these more fantastical short stories are great.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Definitely check out Academic Exercises, his first short story collection. I enjoyed that one more than Father of Lies. Also I think Father of Lies includes a story which is a continuation of one in Academic Exercises.

I'd love a full book about the agents of the Studium and how magic works in that world. I wrote a very similar book, but Parker would do it better.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

Ccs posted:

Definitely check out Academic Exercises, his first short story collection. I enjoyed that one more than Father of Lies. Also I think Father of Lies includes a story which is a continuation of one in Academic Exercises.

I'd love a full book about the agents of the Studium and how magic works in that world. I wrote a very similar book, but Parker would do it better.

Read that one already, really enjoyed it too.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Currently reading that scp novel linked a few pages back. It's surprisingly pretty good. Lil weird, but it's scp so that's kind of a given.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

I'm an infrequent audiobook listener, but on a whim (and some free Audible credits) I started listening to the audiobook version of the Player of Games and the reader (Peter Kenny) is doing a fantastic job about 40 minutes in. He does these very detailed, engaging accents for each character's dialog, it's great. I'm excited to listen to more on my rainy dog walk this morning.

Kind of made me realize that when I read a book, I tend to not have such defined voices in my mind as I read dialog. Now I'm thinking that maybe I should try.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Currently reading that scp novel linked a few pages back. It's surprisingly pretty good. Lil weird, but it's scp so that's kind of a given.
I got it on the recommendation of the thread, and it was short enough that I torn through it. A lot better than I was expecting. Not perfect, but I thought it was cool how it dealt with memory.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Hubbardologist posted:

I'm an infrequent audiobook listener, but on a whim (and some free Audible credits) I started listening to the audiobook version of the Player of Games and the reader (Peter Kenny) is doing a fantastic job about 40 minutes in. He does these very detailed, engaging accents for each character's dialog, it's great. I'm excited to listen to more on my rainy dog walk this morning.

Kind of made me realize that when I read a book, I tend to not have such defined voices in my mind as I read dialog. Now I'm thinking that maybe I should try.

If you enjoy this, there are some excellent multi-narrator audiobooks that really bring their source material to life. Audible's production of Dracula is incredible, and I have a great fondness for the multiple narrator version of Ender's Game, too. The full-cast production of American Gods is also a fan favorite, though I'm a sucker for the reading by George Guidall.

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005

StrixNebulosa posted:

So what are you reading?

I just finished up Unnatural Magic and The Midnight Bargain. Accidentally read them in reverse order. They're a very enjoyable read, although not too surprising plot-wise. Some good trans/nonbinary and queer characters involved that feel like they arises quite naturally out the fantasy world.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Kestral posted:

If you enjoy this, there are some excellent multi-narrator audiobooks that really bring their source material to life. Audible's production of Dracula is incredible, and I have a great fondness for the multiple narrator version of Ender's Game, too. The full-cast production of American Gods is also a fan favorite, though I'm a sucker for the reading by George Guidall.

Oh nice. I'm just about due for an American Gods re-read (it was a comfort book for a long time), maybe the next time 'round I'll do the audio version. The TV adaptation didn't do it for me.

Speaking of multi-narrator productions, I also snagged the Sandman adaptation, which covers the first 3 volumes of the graphic novel -- starring James McAvoy as Dream, Riz Ahmed as the Corinthian, Kat Dennings, Andy Serkis and a whole bunch of others. Very much looking forward to that. (Tenuously thread-related, apologies)

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

Follow me for more books on special!
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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


pradmer posted:

Big random sale today.

Emergency Skin by NK Jemisin - $0.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VFMFPP4/

The Rook (Rook Files #1) by Daniel O'Malley - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QX07EG/


I can speak personally to the goodness and worthwhileness of these two, at the very minimum. Both were fun as heck.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I personally found The Rook to be longer than it needed to be, and thought the humor started out good but wore pretty thin by the end. I also felt like there were a couple of moments that were on the verge of "men writing women" cringe. Based on past discussions of it on the forums, though, I get the sense I may be in the minority on both those points.

BlackHattingMachine
Mar 24, 2006
Choking, quick with the Heimlich!
Thanks to everyone who talked up The Curse of Chalion, it is extremely good. My first Bujold book; I was waiting for her stuff to go on sale. I should not have slept on these.

cardinale
Jul 11, 2016

BlackHattingMachine posted:

Thanks to everyone who talked up The Curse of Chalion, it is extremely good. My first Bujold book; I was waiting for her stuff to go on sale. I should not have slept on these.
I just read the Chalion trilogy too! The second one (Paladin of Souls) was my favourite.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I’ve had Paladin of Souls on my kindle for months, I need to get around to it.

Of that sale I’ve only read The Folding Knife but it was great.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

MockingQuantum posted:

I personally found The Rook to be longer than it needed to be, and thought the humor started out good but wore pretty thin by the end. I also felt like there were a couple of moments that were on the verge of "men writing women" cringe. Based on past discussions of it on the forums, though, I get the sense I may be in the minority on both those points.

The Rook is agonizing in a men-writing-women way. The first thing the main character does when waking up without her memory is evaluate how hot she looks and check out her bikini wax.

It’s godawful.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

a foolish pianist posted:

The Rook is agonizing in a men-writing-women way. The first thing the main character does when waking up without her memory is evaluate how hot she looks and check out her bikini wax.

It’s godawful.

loving :lmao:

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!



I mean, like... yeah. That's not great.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


StrixNebulosa posted:

So what are you reading?

Currently working my way through the Nebula novellas shortlist, just finished FINNA by Nino Cipri. Brisk, fun read about a couple of minimum wage workers forced to go through a wormhole that opened up in Not-IKEA to try and rescue a lost elderly customer. Nice balance of humour, swashbuckling, and saying "gently caress you, capitalism".

Edit: For something that felt similar to the Rook but with less Dude-writing-women, I recommend Hench by Natalie Zina Walschots. It's about a temp who does data entry for supervillains, the human costs of superheroes & late capitalism, and the power of spreadsheets.

cptn_dr fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Mar 23, 2021

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

my body is a temple to an idiot god
I'm reading through a large set of Apocalypse fiction edited by John Joseph Adams. I love a short story as it lets me impose some kind of structure before bed.

Checks watch. Eugh, 1.48am...

Novel wise, I just re-read Tigerman by Nick Harkaway and about to move onto The Gone Away World (2008) Snippet from a review by The Guardian

"....any author who has come up with the beautifully silly plan of melding a kung-fu epic with an Iraq-war satire and a Mad Max adventure has to be worth keeping an eye on."

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Has anyone read The Rig by Roger Levy? I was entranced by the cover in the shop but didn't buy it.

tildes
Nov 16, 2018

a foolish pianist posted:

The Rook is agonizing in a men-writing-women way. The first thing the main character does when waking up without her memory is evaluate how hot she looks and check out her bikini wax.

It’s godawful.

The book overall is good I think and I’d definitely recommend it. But yeaaaaaahhhhhhh there are occasional bits which are sort of insufferable.

E: fwiw that quoted passage I remember as the nadir of the man writes woman bits but I also could be forgetting more?

tildes fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Mar 23, 2021

Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

Shoulda stopped after the first paragraph. Yikes

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Thanks for pointing that out, honestly. The first time I read The Rook I was just pleasantly surprised it passed the Bechdel test.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012




Oh it is much worse than I remember it being. I guess it didn't stick in my memory very well, which is probably for the best.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

I read an ebook called The Fifth Science by some youtuber named "Exurb1a". It's a collection of short stories set across 100k years of future human history. Some of them were really great, some of them were really bad. If the guy had a great editor it would have been a truly excellent book, but for what it was it was worth the $3 or whatever I spent on it. Some neat ideas. Basically how I felt about Bobiverse.

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

my body is a temple to an idiot god
Wow I really fell down the SCP wiki rabbit hole.

Nervously worries about what I might have forgotten

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

pradmer posted:

Big random sale today.

Ubik by Philip K Dick - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LVR6ZA/
A Scanner Darkly and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep are also on sale for $3 each, fyi

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Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today

:psypop:

Trigger warning next time please, I couldn't scroll away fast enough.

EDIT: to contribute, my reserves finally came in at the library, so I've picked up Parker's Sixteen ways to defend a walled city, City of Stairs, The Unspoken Name and Jade War. And I just pre-ordered the latest Cradle (#9, Bloodline) on Amazon.

Leng fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Mar 23, 2021

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