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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm somewhat alarmed by the possibility that there could be a war over taiwan in a decade as it would just escalate into something like during an independence push for the latter, and then the U.S. intervenes and also loses the war, loses warships, loses lives. it'd get completely out of control i dunno we'd probably just tell whatever elements of the fleet are in taiwan to sail for japan during the escalation phase
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Jun 30, 2021 05:30
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really liked this vid, talking about dissent in china and the contradictions of its hyper competitive labor market and societal struggle without going into deranged d&d/gbs sexpat territory https://twitter.com/thecyrusjanssen/status/1408592094256640008
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Jun 30, 2021 05:34
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm somewhat alarmed by the possibility that there could be a war over taiwan in a decade as it would just escalate into something like during an independence push for the latter, and then the U.S. intervenes and also loses the war, loses warships, loses lives. it'd get completely out of control It'll probably happen under a dem president, and the end result will be the emergence of a genuine American ultra-nationalism if not outright fascism. It won't be a repeat of the game show host president who merely flirts with blood and soil bullshit.
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Jun 30, 2021 05:37
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We are a haven for NATO regime change propagandists, so I get why Chinese officials could be concerned
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Jun 30, 2021 05:38
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getting deported from china with 'go back to gbs' stamped on your passport
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Jun 30, 2021 05:41
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AnimeIsTrash posted:If you click on that bbc article, then click on the allegations section, and then click on the the allegation you see that they are sourced zenz. let me help you lil eichmann, the media ecosystem is a "multiplier" of the poo poo stream from the rear end in a top hat of Adrian Zenz, whose origin is the digested junk food of the US spy agencies and permanent state  https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/ you see, information disseminates from Cold War era organizations that act as propaganda appendages of the US Imperial global polarity. For example, AP serves the CIA similarly how they served the Nazis during WW2. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-associated-press-became-part-nazi-propaganda-machine-180958629/ See here: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/12/26/archives/worldwide-propaganda-network-built-by-the-cia-a-worldwide-network.html this is not a comprehensive example, but I believe it is a sufficient one for you to start searching for a more critical view of your information also, hope it aids ye in not being indirectly responsible for the next world war.
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Jun 30, 2021 05:46
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Zmej has issued a correction as of 06:01 on Jun 30, 2021 |
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Jun 30, 2021 05:58
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Homeless Friend posted:bookmark cspam on your burner and make sure to show it to em. Tell em how much your love cspam, xi, china etc. They will know what to do but, outwardly, they might start getting defensive then probably aggressive. Maybe even threatening you, yelling at you and so on. This is just a front, keep doing it. Eventually they'll take you to the 'VIP' side door. i just fell in love with your vibe loving 
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Jun 30, 2021 06:00
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mila kunis posted:really liked this vid, talking about dissent in china and the contradictions of its hyper competitive labor market and societal struggle without going into deranged d&d/gbs sexpat territory
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Jun 30, 2021 06:00
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mila kunis posted:getting deported from china with 'go back to gbs' stamped on your passport lol
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Jun 30, 2021 06:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:they bumped this up to a week "If you want to express skepticism about claims of ethnic cleansing then you have to take it a lot more seriously and put in a lot more effort to justify that position than this. User loses posting privileges for 1 week." \/ 
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Jun 30, 2021 06:55
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Raskolnikov38 posted:*removes lips from firehose of liberal propaganda*: the Han are all liars and their words cannot be trusted unless properly analyzed by Adrian Zenz 
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Jun 30, 2021 07:08
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Jun 30, 2021 07:10
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Hmm that's weird I was under the impression Chinese people just uncritically accept whatever their government does. I don't suppose that video is bad or stupid, without seeing it, but anytime someone asks "is this the beginning of the end for the CCP?" the answer is always no. Chinese people demonstrate and riot all the time when they think the impositions of the state are getting too unbearable, and unlike our own experiences in bourgeois dictatorships they can actually get results.
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Jun 30, 2021 07:24
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https://twitter.com/stillreezy/status/1409662438182514693?s=20
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Jun 30, 2021 08:41
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Homeless Friend posted:chinese security agent waving the wand up and down your body and a klaxon going off as the gbs readings go off the charts Pener Kropoopkin posted:The border guard grows visibly frustrated as he tries to use the search function. mila kunis posted:getting deported from china with 'go back to gbs' stamped on your passport
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Jun 30, 2021 09:12
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Top City Homo posted:let me help you lil eichmann, This is honestly a great article and a good demonstration of how the media marketplace has moved on since the days of Manufacturing Consent. A lot of newspapers are just content farms that just uncritically repeat what they've heard from each other, unless something big happens they won't question the status quo at all. We saw this in a smaller way at the start of the pandemic when the media blew off concerns about it hitting the West harder than China, and dismissing masks as effective. One thing I would say is that at this point the feedback loop is sustainable enough that there's more bullshit artists than just Zenz, but Zenz is patient zero for exaggerating and manipulating what is actually happening in Xinjiang. Not So Fast has issued a correction as of 10:23 on Jun 30, 2021 |
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Jun 30, 2021 10:20
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Not So Fast posted:This is honestly a great article and a good demonstration of how the media marketplace has moved on since the days of Manufacturing Consent. A lot of newspapers are just content farms that just uncritically repeat what they've heard from each other, unless something big happens they won't question the status quo at all. It actually overlaps quite a bit with MC, which gave a high priority to media dependence on official sources. The importance of the wire services wasn't overlooked either: quote:It has long been noted that the media are tiered, with the top tier—as measured by prestige, resources, and outreach—comprising somewhere between ten and twenty-four systems.13 It is this top tier, along with the government and wire services, that defines the news agenda and supplies much of the national and international news to the lower tiers of the media, and thus for the general public.14 Centralization within the top tier was substantially increased by the post-World War II rise of television and the national networking of this important medium. quote:The four major Western wire services—Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, and Agence-France-Presse—account for some 80 percent of the international news circulating in the world today. AP is owned by member newspapers; UPI is privately owned; Reuters was owned mainly by the British media until it went public in 1984, but control was retained by the original owners by giving lesser voting rights to the new stockholders; Agence-France-Presse is heavily subsidized by the French government. As is pointed out by Jonathan Fenby, the wire services “exist to serve markets,” and their prime concern, accordingly, “is with the rich media markets of the United States, Western Europe, and Japan, and increasingly with the business community.…” They compete fiercely, but AP and UPI “are really U.S. enterprises that operate on an international scale.… Without their domestic base, the AP and UPI could not operate as international agencies. With it, they must be American organizations, subject to American pressures and requirements” (The International News Services [New York: Schocken, 1986], pp. 7, 9, 73–74). See also Anthony Smith, The Geopolitics of Information: How Western Culture Dominates the World (New York: Oxford University Press, 1980), chapter 3.
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Jun 30, 2021 10:48
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mila kunis posted:getting deported from china with 'go back to gbs' stamped on your passport Chairman Xi I am willing to do the job of checking if someone is a GBS poster. Please let me in.
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Jun 30, 2021 15:29
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I can't be racist towards Chinese people, I HAD a Chinese girlfriend.
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Jun 30, 2021 15:34
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I can't be racist towards the scheming inscrutable oriental, they're not even really people!
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Jun 30, 2021 15:40
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Editing my posts so the Chinese government can't extradite me from the US.
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Jun 30, 2021 15:47
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quote:Speaking of collaborators, Chinese students in Australia are still being watched by Chinese agents/fascist lickspittles and their families harassed back home and universities and the government are doing nothing to stop it. Fresh from the dnd China thread. Alleged conversations with police as described by self identifying liberal propagandists are now considered harassment and worthy of reporting by known CIA propaganda laundering org HRW.
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Jun 30, 2021 15:51
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:that song is not very good either, but some of it almost sounds like turbofolk and this song is fire. the presentation is more conservative too. it's not as suggestive and i don't see consumer products in them as much either. compared to kpop? this is in a different universe than kpop. music production, melody, visuals, choreography, actual dancing ability - it’s like comparing AAU ball to the NBA. the kpop version of Brian Scalabrini would absolutely cook these girls
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Jun 30, 2021 16:05
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there's a shipment of chinese headache & vertigo guns on their way to assault these human-rights watchers as speak
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Jun 30, 2021 16:09
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i'm somewhat alarmed by the possibility that there could be a war over taiwan in a decade as it would just escalate into something like during an independence push for the latter, and then the U.S. intervenes and also loses the war, loses warships, loses lives. it'd get completely out of control I cannot imagine a hot war between the us and china ending any other way than with nuclear strikes happening
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Jun 30, 2021 16:18
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I don't suppose that video is bad or stupid, without seeing it, but anytime someone asks "is this the beginning of the end for the CCP?" the answer is always no. If the nationalists continue to gain power you're very likely to see more crackdowns on poo poo like this if it's out of state interest. You remember the student maoists helping the Jasic workers after the state turned down their union request, and then they all got arrested? "Buh buh western CIA" sorry hoss, the boss has party connections and you don't. State interests trump worker interests. That particular incident iirc was also spurred by the province leadership doing privatization and spending less on social programs, which was done by Wang Yang, who is now the CPPCC chairman. 
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Jun 30, 2021 16:38
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love our free media 
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Jun 30, 2021 18:16
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indigi posted:this is in a different universe than kpop. music production, melody, visuals, choreography, actual dancing ability - it’s like comparing AAU ball to the NBA. the kpop version of Brian Scalabrini would absolutely cook these girls I don't watch kpop or any pop music for that matter. But from my limited exposure of kpop. It's just mega stacking with production value. IMO China eventually will catch up with a break out hit some time down the road, Genshen Impact style. I don't play mobile games either so maybe I am just an old man talking out of my rear end.
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Jun 30, 2021 18:18
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oh they can absolutely catch up I just don’t know if they have the societal mechanism of forcing children to train in singing and dancing full time from age 4 yet
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Jun 30, 2021 18:24
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indigi posted:this is in a different universe than kpop. music production, melody, visuals, choreography, actual dancing ability - it’s like comparing AAU ball to the NBA. the kpop version of Brian Scalabrini would absolutely cook these girls turbofolk is pretty much spot on.
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Jun 30, 2021 18:27
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Grapplejack posted:If the nationalists continue to gain power you're very likely to see more crackdowns on poo poo like this if it's out of state interest. You remember the student maoists helping the Jasic workers after the state turned down their union request, and then they all got arrested? "Buh buh western CIA" sorry hoss, the boss has party connections and you don't. State interests trump worker interests. this is a very strange post for two reasons: * the idea that the "nationalists" are "gain"ing power. was china not focused on chinese development before? who are the non-nationalists (internationalists? globalists?) that are losing out? this sounds to me like a euphemism for the communists consolidating or simply flexing power over capital * the jasic strike is an awful example of china's labor movement since it was a bunch of students conspiring but failing to organize a factory along maoist lines. there are bigger and more successful strikes all over; that one failed to pick up any momentum because it was a bunch of eggheads trying to skip steps and ultimately garnering no support (and you can read about this in their own postmortem documents)
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Jun 30, 2021 18:36
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Ferrinus posted:* the jasic strike is an awful example of china's labor movement since it was a bunch of students conspiring but failing to organize a factory along maoist lines. there are bigger and more successful strikes all over; that one failed to pick up any momentum because it was a bunch of eggheads trying to skip steps and ultimately garnering no support (and you can read about this in their own postmortem documents) lol that there are more ultras on twitter that love to bring up Jasic, then there were actual workers that the students managed to organize (literally just 80 people, out of 800)
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Jun 30, 2021 18:39
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:lol that there are more ultras on twitter that love to bring up Jasic, then there were actual workers that the students managed to organize (literally just 80 people, out of 800) it's very telling that jasic is the one strike you hear about over and over again, years down the line, despite the fact that plenty more happen constantly
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Jun 30, 2021 18:42
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Ferrinus posted:this is a very strange post for two reasons: Flexing my power over capital by siding with the liberal open markets guy and then making him head of the CPPCC F Stop Fitzgerald posted:lol that there are more ultras on twitter that love to bring up Jasic, then there were actual workers that the students managed to organize (literally just 80 people, out of 800) You've got a point, they really should have just kept their heads down and trusted in management
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Jun 30, 2021 19:07
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Grapplejack posted:Flexing my power over capital by siding with the liberal open markets guy and then making him head of the CPPCC do you read posts you reply to because I don't think either response matches what that guy said. It's not a hard question, who are the 'nationalists' gaining power in China? Also yes, the Jasic organizers themselves admitted they lost a lot of popular ground by looking like they were a bunch of intellectuals trying to ignore process more than a genuine labor movement. You can have the stance of 'it shouldn't matter because they should have been able to organize regardless' and that's fine but I don't think the literal strike leaders were being bootlickers when they said they made mistakes in their methods compared to much larger and much more controvercial strikes that succeeded
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Jun 30, 2021 19:12
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Grapplejack posted:Flexing my power over capital by siding with the liberal open markets guy and then making him head of the CPPCC who or what are you talking about
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Jun 30, 2021 19:17
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Ferrinus posted:who or what are you talking about Grapplejack posted:That particular incident iirc was also spurred by the province leadership doing privatization and spending less on social programs, which was done by Wang Yang, who is now the CPPCC chairman. sexpig by night posted:do you read posts you reply to because I don't think either response matches what that guy said. The nationalists are largely Xi and his clique, who have focused more on military and cultural domination within China writ-large and the general region. Belt and road is an extension of this as a way to push soft power out across the region. I guess this is debatable if you consider this inherent to communist ideas, but. The increased focus on Taiwan is also a big part of this.
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Jun 30, 2021 19:25
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Commissioner Gordon calling the Commie-Man (link) https://i.imgur.com/M4so1JY.mp4
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Jun 30, 2021 19:26
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sexpig by night posted:You can have the stance of 'it shouldn't matter because they should have been able to organize regardless' even taking this line, how could they possibly organize to form a union if only 10% of the workforce supported them in any material way? even if the local party was like “fine ok take a vote on it” it seems like they very well could have lost
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Jun 30, 2021 19:29
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