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ONE YEAR LATER posted:I'm pretty certain that Moiraine and Siuan were meeting in TAR since they had white out transitions when the scenes started and ended. Plus Moiraine's clothing changed from a white shift to a red/brown armless robe thing after they get down. Plus plus the house they meet in looked like Siuan's childhood home. Plus plus plus it's a good way to subtlety introduce one of the more complicated aspects of the story. CainFortea posted:ftfy Eat a dick, the real Tam killed 4 Trollocs by himself when 2 squads of them busted into his home, led them off into the forest, and made his way back to his son with only a scratch that magically festered.
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RandomReader posted:Eat a dick, the real Tam killed 4 Trollocs by himself when 2 squads of them busted into his home, led them off into the forest, and made his way back to his son with only a scratch that magically festered. There is no real tam. He's a character in a story.
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the real tam tucks me into bed at night and reads me a story
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buffalo all day posted:the real tam tucks me into bed at night and reads me a story Maybe the real Tam is the blademasters we find along The Ways.
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How are u posted:I haven't listened to the episode, but if they're slobbin' Amazon's knob I could see that being, uh, grating. They basically say that studios will mandate things and go 'we want this' and the show producers have to deliver that in order to get the show made. You can argue about the sanctity of the art vs the money but the reality is that Amazon is paying for a certain kind of show and if Rafe wants to make Wheel of Time TV he's gotta work within those restraints. If anything they are way too slobbery over the writing, like I think it's good TV but they are really generous with the platitudes and give lots of praise where it might not be warranted but they're approaching it as industry people so I feel like that might just go with being so close to the production side of things in general. RandomReader posted:Bonus material says that it's a real place in Tear though. TAR is a reflection of the real world so these statements don't necessarily contradict each other! ONE YEAR LATER fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Dec 10, 2021 17:43
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The using of the oath rod made the scene give off strong marriage vow vibes.
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Dec 10, 2021 17:45
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tam is real, and strong, and he beat up the kids bullying me at school before chopping their heads off with his magic katana
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I didn't really think ep 6 lived up to the hype. I'm starting to feel less invested in this show as time goes on tbh.
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It is always interesting to hear what non-book readers think, since I think it shows the bias of bookreaders and what normal people will find is weird. For this episode, I've heard several times from non-bookreaders thought Matt and the dagger stuff was rushed, but for book readers, that was about the same speed as the book.
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Huh what? The dagger stuff isn't resolved until book 3 for mats sake, definitely felt rushed to me.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Huh what? The dagger stuff isn't resolved until book 3 for mats sake, definitely felt rushed to me. I don't think it's resolved, just paused.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Huh what? The dagger stuff isn't resolved until book 3 for mats sake, definitely felt rushed to me. The books basically fixed it suddenly after they met in Camelyn, there had to be second fix, but when I read it, it wasn't really a big deal after Moraine did her temporary fix. And then, it is still a sudden offscreen fix in TDR. Its basically done after Camelyn.
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Definitely some authentic robert jordan Lite BDSM vibes in the interplay of power dynamics between Siuan and Moiraine, imo Overall this was the first episode where I really felt the time crunch Most of the individual moments I liked, but there was a certain awkward "wait, only two episodes to go, better hurry up into yon waygate" vibe throughout Moiraine and Egwene's awkward convo about perrin's wolf business was a good example Rosamund Pike's "we don't have time to unpack that right now" face is pretty powerful, is what I'm saying PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Dec 10, 2021 |
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Also I found Mat staying behind intriguing at first, then lame after i remembered they're changing his actor and were probably making concessions to that
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MegaZeroX posted:The books basically fixed it suddenly after they met in Camelyn, there had to be second fix, but when I read it, it wasn't really a big deal after Moraine did her temporary fix. And then, it is still a sudden offscreen fix in TDR. Its basically done after Camelyn. I suppose they might bring it back but then again they would have a hard time sensibly explaining what happens, given it was taken off him whilst he was in Tar Valon not Caemlyn. Anyways, by far not the worst thing about the episode.
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Rarity posted:I mean, there's a huge number of Black Ajah who would have been available and their whole deal is they don't want anyone to know they even exist. An Aes Sedai committing rampant slaughter would slightly ruin that. And at that point the Dark One's forces had no idea Moiraine and Lan were going to be there so they would have figured a bunch of Trollocs and one Fade would be more than enough to handle a bunch of sheepherders Yeah. This makes sense. There is a limited amount of black ajah. It also makes it easier to understand why trollocs aren't just pouring out of waygates and slaughtering everything in sight. I'm ok with the change after sleeping on it.
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Of the two ter’angreal paintings, one is of a woman in the white tower and the other is of what looks like a river in Tear. So I’d buy that they’re meant to be literally for Traveling between those two locations.
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MegaZeroX posted:The books basically fixed it suddenly after they met in Camelyn, there had to be second fix, but when I read it, it wasn't really a big deal after Moraine did her temporary fix. And then, it is still a sudden offscreen fix in TDR. Its basically done after Camelyn. mat almost dies in caemlyn, then moiraine saves him, then i think he almost dies in fal dara, the group of aes sedai including siuan save him, then he wastes away and almost dies at the end of TGH, he's taken to the white tower in a stretcher, and then he's saved finally in book 3. frankly im praying for them to wrap up this dagger poo poo so we can get to cool, fun, mat
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Pyromancer posted:Ah yes, a katana girl, way more dangerous than a trolloc twice her size and armed with a huge and poisoned cleaver. Wheel of time: The Anime. You should hang out with Suian's father in the fingers of the dragon with bait like this lol
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The whole Mat with the dagger story is pretty boring anyway until it comes to Padan Fain stealing the dagger. Otherwise its just Mat acting sickly for 3 books so resolving that earlier and giving us interesting Mat is better than having Mat Languishing about for 3 seasons.
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Jedit posted:Who cares about the future? It requires every one of the most senior members of the Tower to be a loving idiot, right now. You can't even spin it as them letting sisters disobey the Amyrlin while receiving penance to show how weak Siuan is, because Moiraine swearing an oath to the woman rather than the office works directly against them if they do move to depose Siuan. And objecting would require them to admit they planned to depose Siuan.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And objecting would require them to admit they planned to depose Siuan. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And objecting would require them to admit they planned to depose Siuan. They would literally be demanding that Moiraine obey the Amyrlin Seat to the letter. How is that an admission that they plan to depose Siuan?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And objecting would require them to admit they planned to depose Siuan.
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Jedit posted:They would literally be demanding that Moiraine obey the Amyrlin Seat to the letter. How is that an admission that they plan to depose Siuan? Because it would be raising the objection that siuan and the amyrlin could be different people. The Amyrlin sits for life, and Siuan is young and in good health.
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I saw an interesting theory that maybe the dude Liandrin has squirreled away is the guy from the E1 cold open. Maybe she's collecting men who can channel to turn into new dreadlords.We never actually see him gentled just bound with weaves of air.
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the point of the oath rod scene is for them to get gay married
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Is this our first shot of the Stone of Tear?
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Looks like there was just an interview with Daniel Henney
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RandomReader posted:Eat a dick, the real Tam killed 4 Trollocs by himself when 2 squads of them busted into his home, led them off into the forest, and made his way back to his son with only a scratch that magically festered. I guess don't watch the show I don't know what to tell you
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Because it would be raising the objection that siuan and the amyrlin could be different people. The Amyrlin sits for life, and Siuan is young and in good health. Considering that in the books Siuan was raised to the stole after the Tower went through three Amyrlins in less than a decade, that argument doesn't hold up. They could have immediately pointed out that Moiraine's oath no longer binds her if Siuan dies. There is nothing at all in that oath which would stop Moiraine having Siuan assassinated - and the two of them have done everything in their power to make everyone else think that they're enemies. Even leaving that aside, there is still the matter of Moiraine being allowed to flaunt her instructions during a penance when every single one of those women knows the importance of wording.
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quote:The Ways, they’re scary as hell. They built an entire set on a stage the size of a football field and they built the Ways. So it’s all practical. They built black stone pathways that sort of wound around, and we spent eight days shooting on this set, and I hated the Ways by the end of the eight days, trust me. But it was so much fun, and I mean, you’ve read the books, so you know what lurks. oh dang
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"You've read the books, so you know what the show is going to do" is starting to have a lot less meaning as we go. Show is still good though.
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Very excited for all the action we should be getting in the next two episodes, although it really makes me wonder where they will be able to fit the trailer sequence that appeared to be Egwene passing the accepted test coming out of the pool dripping in the colors of the stoles of the Aes Sedai. That's a deleted scene from the first ep, it's the Women's Circle pool in the Two Rivers
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Rarity posted:That's a deleted scene from the first ep, it's the Women's Circle pool in the Two Rivers #ReleaseTheJudkinsCut
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Johnny Joestar posted:the point of the oath rod scene is for them to get gay married RC Cola posted:I guess don't watch the show I don't know what to tell you
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That's lucky as hell, having managed to dodge all the adaptations with actual contempt for the source material that THIS is the your bar for that description. No I, Robot, Last man on earth, foundation.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:#ReleaseTheJudkinsCut Absolutely this, give me those LotR extended edition-length episodes Amazon!
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Thought this was a great episode. The Ajah costumes are incredible. I love how they're consistent with the characteristics of the Ajah (low-cut for greens, etc), but also how each sister of the same Ajah wear completely different outfits. Am I just bad at remembering, or did Moraine and Suine really smash in the books? My son (book-reader) and I were both like "uhhhhhh" when they kissed. We didn't remember that at all. The waygates are whatever. Totally fine with them. I hope they don't combine them with portal stones though, but I guess it's possible so we don't have 4 worlds on a time-limited TV series (real world, TAM, ways, whatever the world is they go to with portal stones). The short teaser they showed of inside the ways looked loving awesome and I can't wait til next episode to see them. I don't really have any big complaints about the episode, or even the show in general. I'm really enjoying it all, and glad I can finally visually see the story, even if it is rushed to fit into 8 episodes. The changes they've made so far are perfectly fine IMO.
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RandomReader posted:That doesn't make it good. Contempt is a very strong word. But yeah, these guys signed on to adapt the books because they hate them. Rosamund Pike hates then so much she's doing the audio books.
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