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Hughmoris posted:Ehhh, I wouldn't call Siuan a main character of the show to date It's almost like they needed to establish her because she's not been on screen yet
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Moiraine and Siuan are obviously bigger in terms of story development and representation, but I was more caught off guard by Liandrin's male captain finding Northharbor.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:03 |
Re: Liandrin, I figured it was a male relative or something that could channel. I guess it could be a lover
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:05 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Re: Liandrin, I figured it was a male relative or something that could channel. I guess it could be a lover I'm assuming it was her darkfriend handler.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:09 |
I kinda like the idea that it's Fain. Who could also be her lover and/or Darkfriend handler. But since we know Fain was following Mat and Rand around the city and Liandrin knew their names but DIDN'T know Perrin and Egwene's names, it actually tracks.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:12 |
Could be that, too. I love that the show is different enough that I genuinely have no read on what's coming beyond the very broad strokes.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:13 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Re: Liandrin, I figured it was a male relative or something that could channel. I guess it could be a lover Oh, it definitely could be one of those other things, but the thread title took me right here.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:16 |
It's a pretty good joke, ngl
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 07:17 |
I think my main gripe with the series so far is the missed opportunity to make the world feel as postapocalyptic as it is in the books. Almost every traveling scene should have some evidence of lost greatness or humanity in retreat. Didn't even need to cost extra screen time or dialogue, there's plenty of slow pans already. The rebirth theme would hit extra hard then. Aside from that i only really mind that they changed the look of the waygates, this double pillar thing is just massively boring compared to beautiful carved foliage doors. It's not like this we-have-Stargate-at-home model is any more original. Needing a channeler to open them is something that undoubtedly has been discussed internally so I'm willing to reserve judgement there. Other than that, this has exceeded my expectations to a frankly shocking degree. I'm extremely impressed.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 08:31 |
Speaking of the waygate, did anyone else notice the channeling pattern resembled the trefoil Avendesora leaves basic shape?
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 08:41 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Speaking of the waygate, did anyone else notice the channeling pattern resembled the trefoil Avendesora leaves basic shape? Yes, I thought that was a nice touch considering they otherwise kind of erased the cool book waygates.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 08:47 |
Osmosisch posted:I think my main gripe with the series so far is the missed opportunity to make the world feel as postapocalyptic as it is in the books. Almost every traveling scene should have some evidence of lost greatness or humanity in retreat. Didn't even need to cost extra screen time or dialogue, there's plenty of slow pans already. The rebirth theme would hit extra hard then. Honestly I've been super happy about just how much we've gotten, those skyscrapers in the first episode and the ruined highway/aqueduct thing they rode past in the second both made me cheer. I'm always up for more though
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 08:49 |
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Lord Koth posted:Meanwhile, here we've got all five of them wandering around in a place absolutely infested with Black Ajah and their spies, and in some cases wandering around literally right in front of them in the case of Egwene and Nynaeve in the tower, and not a single one has acted. Trying to pull off a kidnapping in the middle of Tar Valon sounds like a highly risky endeavor that could draw the Tower's scrutiny in dangerous ways. Maybe it would be worth waiting a few days to see if the false visions sent to Siuan successfully result in her sending the kids right where you want them... Oh, they did! Great, no need for that risky kidnapping idea now.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 08:49 |
CainsDescendant posted:Honestly I've been super happy about just how much we've gotten, those skyscrapers in the first episode and the ruined highway/aqueduct thing they rode past in the second both made me cheer. I'm always up for more though Yeah it did start off strong but I especially missed it during Perrin and Egwene's bogus journey. Part of what should make Tar Valon and Caemlyn to a lesser extent so special is how they feel like some of the few remaining shining bastions.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 09:09 |
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CainsDescendant posted:Honestly I've been super happy about just how much we've gotten, those skyscrapers in the first episode and the ruined highway/aqueduct thing they rode past in the second both made me cheer. I'm always up for more though I think we saw some ruins as Kid Siuan left home as well
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 09:11 |
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CainFortea posted:All his social presence is gone. I'm guessing health reasons. He worked up to the break caused by COVID, he didn't come back after the break, they haven't just said that he caught COVID, and all his social media presence is deleted. The most likely reason is that he's an anti-vaxxer.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 10:21 |
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I find myself wishing this show had longer episodes.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 10:45 |
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jng2058 posted:Episode Six, "The Flame of Tar Valon" A few pages late, but I'm really appreciating these posts!
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 11:46 |
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Bongo Bill posted:I find myself wishing this show had longer episodes. I think the episode length is fine, but if there'd been ten episodes instead of eight I think there'd be some more breathing room between some of fast-paced stuff. We seem to get some really great characterisation scenes (Moiraine and Siuan getting down, Mat, Rand and Thom in Ep 4, Perrin and Egwene in Ep 5) but then we rush around to cover the plot at breakneck speed.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 11:48 |
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were there other magical flashbacks than rand's vision in rhuidean and aviendha's near the end?
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 12:25 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:were there other magical flashbacks than rand's vision in rhuidean and aviendha's near the end? Do the IWALT alternate lives shown to Rand count?
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 12:37 |
ChubbyChecker posted:were there other magical flashbacks than rand's vision in rhuidean and aviendha's near the end? One of those wasn't a flashback... Anyway, closest is probably the accepted rings which are just as real as Aviendha's.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:08 |
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CainFortea posted:
Lol that Perrin's been in 6 episodes and isn't even in the top 10
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:16 |
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PupsOfWar posted:i do think there's been a smidge too little focus on Rand and the reveal is gonna come outta nowhere to a lot of viewers goethe.cx posted:I’d watch a faithful adaptation but it’s very hard to do that while making something that your average viewer would be interested in watching I do think it's hard, and risky, to adapt something like EOTW/LOTR/GoT whilst keeping your adaptation very close to the source material. LOTR and (I think? Been a long time since I read it) GoT kept very close and pulled it off amazingly well. In fact they are the two biggest blockbuster swords-and-sorcery fantasy things of all time. But I'm sure the TV industry knows how to churn out a series that will be extremely likely to get a decent number of people watching - there are genetic formula that you see being repeated across a lot of modern streaming content, even in terms of the writing of modern series. I imagine a lot of that comes from focus grouped studies of how to get people hooked on this stuff. That's not to say that all creativity is quashed or that the process is entirely mechanistic. But my understanding is that a studio is likely to demand that the product hit certain beats to increase the likelihood of it working for their planned audience markets. I am very interested in how and why WoT has departed so much from the source. Maybe it's mostly to do with making a show that Amazon is willing to make the bet on. But it could really be that Survivor guy thinks he has a genius vision for how WoT needed to be changed for the screen. In reality I'm sure it's somewhere in between. And who knows, maybe Rafe and the team he has around him really are good enough to pull off a GoT style success with it. Right now I don't think so, but who knows how things could improve in season 2. Osmosisch posted:I think my main gripe with the series so far is the missed opportunity to make the world feel as postapocalyptic as it is in the books. Almost every traveling scene should have some evidence of lost greatness or humanity in retreat. Didn't even need to cost extra screen time or dialogue, there's plenty of slow pans already. The rebirth theme would hit extra hard then. Osmosisch posted:Yeah it did start off strong but I especially missed it during Perrin and Egwene's bogus journey. Given how accelerated the whole show is, it's kind of obvious why they've done it that way, but I reckon it does take away from the 'lost world' vibe. It is also just kind of a symptom of the simplifying approach they've taken to the whole mythos and the mechanics of how the world works. Whether that's good or bad for the adaptation is subjective ofc. El Grillo fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Dec 11, 2021 |
# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:30 |
Btw one side effect of spending time on Siuan’s origin story is that it introduces Tear.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:37 |
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^^if they are skipping Falme entirely and merging it with Tear as the finale of season 2, that might make sense that they're doing it now. And if that's the case holy crap, they're condensing things even more than I figured.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:39 |
i hope not falme loving ruled but, they've earnt my goodwill, so bring it on
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:40 |
Are...are shows not allowed to introduce a location unless it's going to be the Next Big Location?
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:47 |
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Devorum posted:Are...are shows not allowed to introduce a location unless it's going to be the Next Big Location? There are people who are going "Shows terrible gently caress rafe" because the booty call ter'angreal was not fully explained in the episode it was introduced in. So yea, there are people who will absolutely be mad about that. Edit: Also, pretty sure LotR movies were about as faithful as WoTshow has been so far.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:52 |
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people being mad about how specifically the ter'angreal works is like the biggest 'who cares' moment i've had so far in an already steadily mounting heap of them
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:54 |
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Johnny Joestar posted:people being mad about how specifically the ter'angreal works is like the biggest 'who cares' moment i've had so far in an already steadily mounting heap of them For me it's people outraged at the design of a Waygate
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 13:57 |
Rarity posted:For me it's people outraged at the design of a Waygate 100%. It’s a jump gate / wormhole / magic door. That’s all one needs to know.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:09 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:100%. It’s a jump gate / wormhole / magic door. That’s all one needs to know. It does make me wonder what else changed to precipitate that. Or if it was a cost measure. I also wonder if they had that whole time dilation thing originally, but had to cut that out with the mat sendoff edit.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:11 |
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Rarity posted:Lol that Perrin's been in 6 episodes and isn't even in the top 10 He's a quiet boy
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:13 |
Gotta do something with those old Stargate props.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:15 |
cailleask posted:Y’all. I hate insta, but this is 100% worth the hassle. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CXUAleGgmYw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link You can also see it on YouTube here, where it was first uploaded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBfCZH200w
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:19 |
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i hope the forsaken are a proper mindfuck for show-only viewers who still expect it to be this 100% fantasy ordeal
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 14:43 |
Johnny Joestar posted:i hope the forsaken are a proper mindfuck for show-only viewers who still expect it to be this 100% fantasy ordeal super excited to see the reactions to ishamael, when we see him
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 15:27 |
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El Grillo posted:^^if they are skipping Falme entirely and merging it with Tear as the finale of season 2, that might make sense that they're doing it now. I don't think this is happening since a) Falme had its own entry in that costuming reference map that got posted a while back, and b) this episode mentions ships disappearing in the *west*, not the south.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 15:42 |
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Rarity posted:Lol that Perrin's been in 6 episodes and isn't even in the top 10 KOGAHAZAN!! posted:He's a quiet boy Hughmoris posted:... The dude playing Perrin can't act and the wolf scenes felt like The CW.
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# ? Dec 11, 2021 16:02 |