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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Stuporstar posted:

Honestly, this is really cool. If he just gave up any pretense of finishing his lovely series and used his name recognition to promote other authors as a publisher, this is a net good
Also if he didn't loving sign books he hasn't written.

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Stuporstar
May 5, 2008

Where do fists come from?

anilEhilated posted:

Also if he didn't loving sign books he hasn't written.

Be way cooler if he didn’t loving do that, yes

Cicero posted:

Dude apparently just read the prologue for book 3 of Kingkiller earlier today, so no dice: https://reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/rfou96/rothfuss_is_reading_doors_of_stone_prologue/

I have prologues/chapters written for several unfinished novels. This means nothing

VV Ah right, yeah

Sigh…

Stuporstar fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Dec 14, 2021

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Agreed, I just meant that "if he just gave up any pretense of finishing his lovely series" obviously isn't happening.

ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012

Less Fat Luke posted:

I remember it more being anti-Muslim than anything Saudi-specific but I sure as hell am not going to check.

Yes, just any Muslim in general. These Muslims are so bad they create these portable blackholes that will destroy the whole planet if they are dropped anywhere, but then they put them on icbms on a submarine so they can be launched at non-muslim cities for some reason???

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Inshallah the infidels will die first via spaghettification before the rest of the world follows! Allah Akbar! MAD! Muslim Assured Destruction!

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

a foolish pianist posted:

Yeah, it’s also got the Saudi submarines with black hole bombs that are supposed to destroy the whole planet. 9/11 completely took over Simmons’ brain.

I've been rereading the Hyperion Cantos again. Now it seems Bradley Cooper wants to make the first book into a stand-alone movie. I don't see this going well (think The Dark Tower).

Anyway, if they were to ever make the entire series into a TV series, I have to wonder what the Catholic church would think of being the Big Bad in the Endymion part? Makes me wonder what the church did to Simmons.

ScienceSeagull
May 17, 2021

Figure 1 Smart birds.

Tars Tarkas posted:

I will literally do this all day, settings, character guides, monster manuals, bestiaries, fake naturalist journals, starship guides, technical manuals, inject them into my veins! Yes I read real naturalist journals and guides to animals/plants/rocks/dinosaurs/invertebrates. Tracking down guides to protists was one of the first things that sent me to the adult sections of the libraries when I was like 7.

There's a recent sci-fi art book that's just this!
https://www.amazon.com/Teeming-Universe-Extraterrestrial-Exploration-Journey/dp/B09FCCCDRN

And you'd probably enjoy these online projects too, if you haven't seen them already:
https://sites.google.com/site/worldofserina/home
https://mysteryfleshpit.tumblr.com

PupsOfWar
Dec 6, 2013

Mister Kingdom posted:

I've been rereading the Hyperion Cantos again. Now it seems Bradley Cooper wants to make the first book into a stand-alone movie. I don't see this going well (think The Dark Tower).

i really have no idea how you'd approach this other than as an animatrix-style animated anthology

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Tars Tarkas posted:

I will literally do this all day, settings, character guides, monster manuals, bestiaries, fake naturalist journals, starship guides, technical manuals, inject them into my veins! Yes I read real naturalist journals and guides to animals/plants/rocks/dinosaurs/invertebrates. Tracking down guides to protists was one of the first things that sent me to the adult sections of the libraries when I was like 7.

Are you familiar with the Birrin?

https://www.deviantart.com/abiogenisis/gallery/53818589/birrin-world

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





PupsOfWar posted:

i really have no idea how you'd approach this other than as an animatrix-style animated anthology

I mean yes, that could work....but I could also see each story being done in a different film style even live action. Horror for Hoyt, action movie for Kassad, noir for Brawne, etc. It'd be a challenge, to be sure, but it could work.

Copernic
Sep 16, 2006

...A Champion, who by mettle of his glowing personal charm alone, saved the universe...
NEAL STEPHENSON WAS RIGHT.

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Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG



just wait until you hear about Hobby Lobby's cuneiform collection!

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

Cicero posted:

Same. I used to read the encyclopedia when I was a kid. I think as humans there's usually a certain desire to learn about the world, and for many of us our dumb meat brains don't distinguish between the real one and fake ones in terms of motivation.

Kinda the same. I used to read the dictionary if there wasn't anything going on in class. Always fun learning new words.

I never played dnd but I ended up with a full set of trading cards from advanced dungeons and dragons and you bet your rear end I read the poo poo out of those.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Mister Kingdom posted:

I've been rereading the Hyperion Cantos again. Now it seems Bradley Cooper wants to make the first book into a stand-alone movie. I don't see this going well (think The Dark Tower).

I watched Dune the other week (because it was only just released in Australia) and it's kind of amazing they had the balls to release that before the studio signed off on Part 2

No. No more dancing!
Jun 15, 2006
Let 'er rip, dude!

freebooter posted:

I watched Dune the other week (because it was only just released in Australia) and it's kind of amazing they had the balls to release that before the studio signed off on Part 2

I believe they specifically said "If this movie does well enough we'd like to do a sequel." It definitely left me feeling like they were holding the second half of the movie hostage, and had the same stink as early-access video games.

tildes
Nov 16, 2018

cptn_dr posted:

Piranesi was 2020 as well.

Wtf what is time

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


ScienceSeagull posted:

There's a recent sci-fi art book that's just this!
https://www.amazon.com/Teeming-Universe-Extraterrestrial-Exploration-Journey/dp/B09FCCCDRN

And you'd probably enjoy these online projects too, if you haven't seen them already:
https://sites.google.com/site/worldofserina/home
https://mysteryfleshpit.tumblr.com

I had not heard of that book but it sounds amazing! Flesh Pit i've read through though they've added some since then. Serina reminds me of the After Man book that I was obsessed with as a kid and bought as an adult. One of the toys I loved as a kid was Battle Beasts, I started making my own drawn on paper and eventually added all sorts of made up animals from my own imagination but I also did a bunch of the After Man creatures. I did like 400+ of them and spend a few months years ago scanning them all


That looks fantastic too!



A lot of my links are dead, but there is this interesting book from Germany - http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/library/Stumpke/book_en.htm
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/The_Snouters:_Form_and_Life_of_the_Rhinogrades

Snaiad became internet famous years ago briefly
http://www.cmkosemen.com/snaiad_web/snduterus.html

And the Speculative Dinosaur Project
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Speculative_Dinosaur_Project
https://www.deviantart.com/osmatar/gallery/33347034/speculative-dinosaur-project

Amphiterra is frog dinosaurs
http://amphiterra.weebly.com/

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

tildes posted:

Wtf what is time

A flat circle.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Tars Tarkas posted:

I had not heard of that book but it sounds amazing! Flesh Pit i've read through though they've added some since then. Serina reminds me of the After Man book that I was obsessed with as a kid and bought as an adult. One of the toys I loved as a kid was Battle Beasts, I started making my own drawn on paper and eventually added all sorts of made up animals from my own imagination but I also did a bunch of the After Man creatures. I did like 400+ of them and spend a few months years ago scanning them all

That looks fantastic too!



A lot of my links are dead, but there is this interesting book from Germany - http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/library/Stumpke/book_en.htm
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/The_Snouters:_Form_and_Life_of_the_Rhinogrades

Snaiad became internet famous years ago briefly
http://www.cmkosemen.com/snaiad_web/snduterus.html

And the Speculative Dinosaur Project
https://speculativeevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Speculative_Dinosaur_Project
https://www.deviantart.com/osmatar/gallery/33347034/speculative-dinosaur-project

Amphiterra is frog dinosaurs
http://amphiterra.weebly.com/

Spec Evo has really kicked off in the last 5 or so years. I'd add Serina on the list of stuff you might want to check out.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






ScienceSeagull posted:

There's a recent sci-fi art book that's just this!
https://www.amazon.com/Teeming-Universe-Extraterrestrial-Exploration-Journey/dp/B09FCCCDRN

And you'd probably enjoy these online projects too, if you haven't seen them already:
https://sites.google.com/site/worldofserina/home
https://mysteryfleshpit.tumblr.com

I love you for telling me about these. Thanks!

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Does anyone know of a sci fi story where an object suddenly appears? For example, a giant pink triangle in the sky. Or an odd enormous sleeping hermit crab on a hill. And it's at least somewhat about people's reaction to the unexplained apparency rather than any answers.

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010


Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

Lampsacus posted:

Does anyone know of a sci fi story where an object suddenly appears? For example, a giant pink triangle in the sky. Or an odd enormous sleeping hermit crab on a hill. And it's at least somewhat about people's reaction to the unexplained apparency rather than any answers.

Robert Charles Wilson's The Chronoliths, sort of.

Donald Barthelme's The Balloon is spot on but may or may not actually be Sci fi. But the question is essentially describing Magic Realism in general, so...

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Thranguy posted:

Robert Charles Wilson's The Chronoliths, sort of.

And his Spin.

Also, J. G. Ballard's The Drowned Giant.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I really like Robert Charles Wilson and have read four or five of his books now, and haven't read Spin, but Spin was still the first thing that came to mind for that sub-genre.

Selachian posted:

Also, J. G. Ballard's The Drowned Giant.

I consistently confuse this with P Schuyler Miller's "The Thing on the Outer Shoal," even though I've read neither of them since I was in high school (probably in the same anthology.) Both great stories though.

The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010

Lampsacus posted:

Does anyone know of a sci fi story where an object suddenly appears? For example, a giant pink triangle in the sky. Or an odd enormous sleeping hermit crab on a hill. And it's at least somewhat about people's reaction to the unexplained apparency rather than any answers.

Excession by Iain M Banks does this in a deep space way and is excellent.

Llamadeus
Dec 20, 2005
Also read Roadside Picnic by the Strugatskys

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

I picked up Luke Smitherd's The Stone Man on a kindle deal ages back and it's precisely 'mysterious thing appears'.

I didn't think it was a great book, maybe a kind 4/10, but look it up and see if the synopsis appeals.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Huh, saw this on Janny Wurts' twitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9U1KhQAy0

quote:

Hi everyone! Today’s video will be the top 10 completed fantasy trilogies that I’ve read so far. This video is ranked based on the 45 completed fantasy trilogies I finished reading so far. After receiving a lot of requests for this video, and now that we’re near the end of 2021, I think it’s the right time to post this recommendation video. There are still so many fantasy trilogies I want to read, and I will make sure to update this list again once I’ve read about 10 or 20 more finished fantasy trilogies. Let me know your thoughts on this list, and what’s your favorite completed fantasy trilogies?

Note: This list won’t have a direct sequel trilogy, that in my opinion, definitely require reading the previous series first to fully appreciate. I will save my recommendation for the best sequel trilogy/series for future videos.

Trilogies Mentioned:
0:00 Intro
1:43 The Liveship Traders Trilogy by Robin Hobb
3:00 The Winnowing Flame Trilogy by Jen Williams
4:19 The Poppy War Trilogy by R.F. Kuang
4:55 The Divine Cities Trilogy by Robert Jackson Bennett
5:57 Ash and Sand Trilogy by Richard Nell
7:07 Riftwar Empire Trilogy by Raymond E. Feist & Janny Wurts
8:32 The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie
10:16 The Licanius Trilogy by James Islington
12:04 Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson
13:33 The Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee

I... I haven't read any of these....

I've read Mistborn 1 and 2, and Ninth Rain, but none of the rest. Hmm, a goal for next year?

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

StrixNebulosa posted:

Huh, saw this on Janny Wurts' twitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9U1KhQAy0

I... I haven't read any of these....

I've read Mistborn 1 and 2, and Ninth Rain, but none of the rest. Hmm, a goal for next year?

Divine Cities good
Liveships is ok IMO but I think you’d probably really like it?
Don’t read Poppy War unless you enjoy reading a lengthy fantasy take on Japan’s WW2 war crimes from the perspective of possibly the most miserable person imaginable a suicidally depressed heroin addict

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

Llamadeus posted:

Also read Roadside Picnic by the Strugatskys

This is just good life advice in general.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Patrick Spens posted:

In the same sense that hating worldbuilding is anti-vax propaganda sure, but that's a stupid reach to make in either direction.

I do think there is something kinda deep going on there. The obvious narrative purpose of a vaccine is to be a vector for mind control drugs. Any author who write a plot featuring a vaccine which wasn’t a secret cover for something nefarious would probably get arrested for breaking Chekhov’s gun control laws.

The only defence for those charges would be to have extensive world building notes that established that vaccines worked according to some pre-existing fixed magic system with rules disallowing vaccine-based mind control.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I picked up Luke Smitherd's The Stone Man on a kindle deal ages back and it's precisely 'mysterious thing appears'.

I didn't think it was a great book, maybe a kind 4/10, but look it up and see if the synopsis appeals.

2nding this. Literally the plot is thing appears in area and people wonder why, then poo poo gets weird.

I can't remember if it's good or not, it's been years since I bought it. It's precisely the sort of plot you are looking for though. It's on ku if that helps.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

radmonger posted:

I do think there is something kinda deep going on there. The obvious narrative purpose of a vaccine is to be a vector for mind control drugs. Any author who write a plot featuring a vaccine which wasn’t a secret cover for something nefarious would probably get arrested for breaking Chekhov’s gun control laws.

The only defence for those charges would be to have extensive world building notes that established that vaccines worked according to some pre-existing fixed magic system with rules disallowing vaccine-based mind control.

Vaccines are clearly healing-based magic and Dominate Person isn't on the cleric spell list. So all you have to do is have a character drop an expository line like "As we all know, multi-class builds aren't allowed in this setting" and readers should pick up the implications from there.

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
im curious - does anyone have a good anthology of scifi short stories they like? im trying to find a copy of "the drowned giant" to read and im having trouble finding something i can actually check out of the (e-)library

honestly, i dont think ive read an anthology of stories other than ted chiang's story of our lives (which i liked) and china mieville's (which i only read about halfway before i got bored)

i think short stories are very hit and miss since it can be tough to tell a meaningful story (shortly) and its doubly hard for an author to do so in enough different ways to feel unique and im curious if there are any multi-author story anthologies people have read and enjoyed (at least some of its contents)

thanks!

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

If you are ok with Amazon I found several years-end 'Best of our Short Stories' ebooks from the publisher TOR as freebies, might be worth a look as a grab-bag sampler.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



StrixNebulosa posted:

Huh, saw this on Janny Wurts' twitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9U1KhQAy0

I... I haven't read any of these....

I've read Mistborn 1 and 2, and Ninth Rain, but none of the rest. Hmm, a goal for next year?

Seconding that Divine Cities is really good. Very unique setting, one of my favorite trilogies I've read in the last five years or so.
Also seconding that I found Poppy War distressing and depressing in a way that was not at all enjoyable or interesting to read, but also some people absolutely love it, so YMMV. I can't personally recommend them, but I also didn't get past the second book.
I haven't read Liveships but a lot of people think it's Hobb's best trilogy in that setting. Her books tend to be very slow-burn and contemplative.
The First Law is grimdark-ish fantasy, I personally loved it and thought it was surprisingly funny. If you like audiobooks, the Steven Pacey versions of these are fantastic.
Mistborn is.. fine? If you've read the first two I would imagine you know what you'd be getting from the third one.
I loving love the Green Bone books, though I haven't read the third one yet. It's basically equal parts Yakuza families using magically amplified martial arts in street wars and political and family drama.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Lampsacus posted:

Does anyone know of a sci fi story where an object suddenly appears? For example, a giant pink triangle in the sky. Or an odd enormous sleeping hermit crab on a hill. And it's at least somewhat about people's reaction to the unexplained apparency rather than any answers.

Towing Jehova

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
If you managed the slog that is Mistborn 2 then definitely finish out the trilogy. The third book is considerably stronger, with a big payoff.

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Cicero posted:

If you managed the slog that is Mistborn 2 then definitely finish out the trilogy. The third book is considerably stronger, with a big payoff.

It's been many years since I read it, and the strongest memory I have from Mistborn 2 is that I loving hate Elend. I barely remember why - I mean, I know he's an author self-insert, and the big romance with the main character so that's two marks against him, but I also remember him getting to become a magic user too in the end of book 2?

:sigh:

God now that I'm revisiting my memories of it, the first book was good, the second wasn't, and I've been told book 3 is amazing and stuff, but 2 soured the whole thing really badly for me.

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