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cinci zoo sniper posted:If this tweet is believed, Italy is seriously worried about their Balenciaga exports. lmao it'll be such an insane mistake and embarassment if the EU proves unable to respond to this in any kind of substantial way
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TheRat posted:But as far as I know there's no reliable way of delivery on the scale needed. They have LNG carriers that can divert from other markets but requires a large subsidy to induce delivery, corporations aren't going to willingly divert from other markets that are paying.
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Something else to be skeptical of: stories about disputes on what response to take before any response is taken. I believe Biden is speaking in around an hour, and I expect by the end of today we'll know what the first round of US and EU sanctions will look like. It's not surprising there's disagreement in negotiating them, but all indications from the past month or two are that parties were prepared to act in a united and decisive fashion. Once particular sections happen (or don't), we can analyze their appropriateness. Until then, it's just another patch of war fog.
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Mooseontheloose posted:It's sad and I have said this before the last American president to have a coherent foreign policy and who really seem to get how other countries operated was George H.W. Bush and this isn't a defense of him or his family and his association with Reagan. But he had a clear vision and a path and ways to integrate Russia into the post Cold War era and again seemed to have A foreign policy. Clinton largely seemed to ignore foreign policy, W. we all know, Obama couldn't meet the moment, and Trump is aligned with Putin (sorta) and had no vision either. Biden had about as conventional and coherent an American policy as you could expect on this imo. I'm not saying it was the right policy, because I have issues with American foreign policy in general, but he was very consistent and on the same page as American allies, and the reality is just that Russia had a stronger hand to play in its next door neighbor than the US did. That doesn't mean Russia's stronger than the US or got a big win over the US--the US is still in an unbelievably stronger position on the global stage, and maybe even moreso as a result of this crisis. It's just a shame that Ukraine is the country left suffering for being caught between two powers.
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Kaddish posted:If Europe isn't on board with bare minimum stuff, what can the US really do? yell at europe
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https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1496878993534255104?s=20&t=dYwra1uHfL68PWiUGEDubQ Chernihiv was my first host city. My host sister just messaged me on FB saying tanks have destroyed the roads that were newly built there. My host father and mother are scanning important documents and sending it to her as she is outside of the country.
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William Bear posted:This is infuriating. Agreeing to stop exporting Lamborghinis is one of the most obvious steps that won't hurt the average Russian, and they're not even taking that. Hell yeah, let's loving go. Maybe I can end this date being embarrassed just to an ordinary extent. TheRat posted:But as far as I know there's no reliable way of delivery on the scale needed. Problems on multiple fronts, but not too bad - EU needs to scale capacity to receive LNG, and hash out a deal with the Gulf to get some of their stuff, currently earmarked for Asia. If we really try, we can make it work, but there's likely going to be 1-3 rough winters in the process.
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Sinteres posted:If you're going to follow Rubio at all, I think I'd view him as most credible when he's talking about actual troop movements and stuff, and least credible when he talks about Putin's state of mind/how Putin feels the invasion is going. The idea that Russia expected this to all be wrapped up by now is pretty absurd. i wouldnt be shocked if russia thought this would be way way quicker since this is the most opposition they have faced. GABA ghoul posted:Gotta admit, Russia's Twitter game today was pretty good. At times it looked like Russians tanks are 5 min away from downtown Kyiv and Zelensky is already running for the plane to Warsaw. Never rely too much on Twitter this. even if its a "quick" invasion/war. the invasion "phase" will be a month/weeks at least.
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https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1496877445332582407 No-fly zone sounds like a dead end. There's no way anyone wants to shoot down Russian planes. https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1496785547594924032 "AK-47s for everyone!"
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Thankfully all of that petty carveout bullshit died with the invasion, but I'm not celebrating yet. https://twitter.com/matinastevis/status/1496831724038377479
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Kaddish posted:If Europe isn't on board with bare minimum stuff, what can the US really do? Not much. They can harm companies and sovereign wealth, but the US can't do much to oligarchs. As someone pointed out, the biggest weapon American has economically is targeting energy companies, but there is a domestic political cost to that. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:It's sad and I have said this before the last American president to have a coherent foreign policy and who really seem to get how other countries operated was George H.W. Bush and this isn't a defense of him or his family and his association with Reagan. But he had a clear vision and a path and ways to integrate Russia into the post Cold War era and again seemed to have A foreign policy. Clinton largely seemed to ignore foreign policy, W. we all know, Obama couldn't meet the moment, and Trump is aligned with Putin (sorta) and had no vision either. I mean speaking personally in an ideal world one might take the issue of costs to the west of economic sanctions against russia (particularly the energy sector) to be a great excuse for state intervention in costs of living as well as a massive push for energy autarky (read: renewable energy) but I think that's well outside the range of acceptable ideas for most governments.
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William Bear posted:https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1496877445332582407 Yeah some hawks tried to get the US to do a no fly zone over Syria too, which would have been far more doable (though still insane imo, as I argued at the time). There's no loving way it's doable over Ukraine.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Rich North Americans don't buy luxury European poo poo on the scale Russians do and the United States' banking system is already a no-go for Russians who may be worried about assets. What the US can offer is heavily subsidized natural gas imports to bridge the gap to new sources of heat. GB won't do it, the Tories benefit too much from Russian money and support.
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BoldFace posted:If America has been hiding some cyber warfare nukes in their sleeves, now might be a good time to deploy them. To what end?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Every tank and air craft destroyed is a huge victory. Russia cannot afford to replace them quickly enough. Quickly enough for what?
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1496878993534255104?s=20&t=dYwra1uHfL68PWiUGEDubQ ...This does not seem like an army that wants to be there or even feels like victory is near This really is just one man's war over his penis. What a loving sad joke. Eat poo poo Putin. I hope the Oligarch hyenas finally turn on him
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Arglebargle III posted:To what end? To end the war in Ukraine.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:A non-trivial amount of Europe's banking and real estate is built around just laundering Russian money and no one really wants to tug that thread very hard Real estate in New York too, from what I heard and I don't mean (solely) Trump.
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BoldFace posted:To end the war in Ukraine. To be blunt: At best Ukraine can delay the Russians and make them pay for any advance, but make no mistake: Russia will likely win this. How quickly is the question right now.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/status/1496878993534255104?s=20&t=dYwra1uHfL68PWiUGEDubQ i can believe this is real. the russian army has super competent army but even currently, the Russian miliary in the field is super loving inflexible command structure wise. so you get poo poo like this often.
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The Real Amethyst posted:Are there actually lefty/tankie types trying to defend and justify the invasion or is it just a minority of broke brain freaks? I'm scared to look. As I said earlier in this thread, I am a Marxist; and as a Marxist I do not know how anyone who claims to be on the left could do anything other than cheer on Ukraines people and Armed Services who, in my view, are fighting someone who is as close to a successor of Hitler as one can realistically imagine. Again, every human death is a tragedy, but for lack of a better way to say this, I am praying to the nonexistent gods that Ukraine makes Russia bleed for every inch Russian forces advance into Ukraine.
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Arglebargle III posted:To what end? To punish Putin and make engaging in this war even more untenable. gently caress that monster.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I said it a page or two ago, but the US can hit Russian companies, corporations, and sovereign wealth, but can't do much to oligarchs, that requires the EU and GB to show a level of backbone that I'm personally skeptical they have in them. Maybe GB and France. This is classic Cold War level weak-poo poo from Euros top to bottom.
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CommieGIR posted:To be blunt: At best Ukraine can delay the Russians and make them pay for any advance, but make no mistake: Russia will likely win this. How quickly is the question right now. It depends entirely on how you define winning. Odds were not in their favor, but even Taliban won in the end.
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TulliusCicero posted:...This does not seem like an army that wants to be there or even feels like victory is near Too early to say but it may turn out that telling Russians for 20 years on state media that Ukrainians are their brothers and essentially Russian does not make them want to commit violence against them.
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dr_rat posted:The 4th tweet in this: Uh, isn't "targetting civilian targets for demoralization" terror bombing? That sure worked really well for the Nazis in London.
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BoldFace posted:It depends entirely on how you define winning. Odds were not in their favor, but even Taliban won in the end. I don't think many people right now would consider it a win if Russia occupies Ukraine for 20 years and then leaves the country bankrupt and starving upon withdrawal.
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Sinteres posted:This seems bad. On both sides. Why, really? The war has over 1 million soldiers across both sides, I don't think some Chechens matter besides being a propaganda coup for Ukraine.
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BoldFace posted:It depends entirely on how you define winning. Odds were not in their favor, but even Taliban won in the end. Ukraine is a steppe, not a mountainous area easily defended.
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ZombieLenin posted:As I said earlier in this thread, I am a Marxist; and as a Marxist I do not know how anyone who claims to be on the left could do anything other than cheer on Ukraines people and Armed Services who, in my view, are fighting someone who is as close to a successor of Hitler as one can realistically imagine. Whole heartedly loving  I despise war with all my heart, but there is a very clear moral side here, and it's not the insane gnome ranting about nazis while committing crimes against humanity, it' the people of a country that just want to have peace and be allowed to exist. Make the Bear bleed Ukraine 
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Private Speech posted:Why, really? Well if you're hoping not to see atrocities, involving veterans of the Chechen wars seems like a bad sign to me. 
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