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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i've seen that exact gis platform before, you mean google maps? i've seen it too
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Tuna-Fish posted:Please stop groping about in the dark and read these official releases from the Russian government: Thanks. Yeah I think I've seen/read the "highlights" of both of these. It just still fails to register that they actually tried to act that out. Rust Martialis posted:Kalynivka, I think, just outside Kyiv.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:51
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That’s rather unlikely, if you ask me.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:52
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i've seen that exact gis platform before, so i know that sometimes the display of layers can get funky, but just visually that amount of blue doesn't seem significant. maybe the layers are messed up, maybe the gains are on critical locations that put the rest in doubt, but it is just humorous to see someone breathlessly reporting on what visually seems to be tiny slivers of the red polygon Those small specks seem to be villages and other road transportation junctions, which would render largest parts of the blob effectively immobile. That’s why they’re important.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:52
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cinci zoo sniper posted:As expected. This is an incredibly convenient, legal way to start loving Russia up in a politically defensible way. It’s very easy to legalspeak this into “they turned our gas off”. KitConstantine posted:Edit: still light on details but more definitive-sounding Interestingly enough on discord a goon responded to the news and me asking about the taps being turned off by saying that Russia cannot actually do that - the way their wells are designed would cause pressure build up and explosion. Whether that's true or not I guess we'll find out. Of course I wouldn't put it past the accidental inventor of the Gates of Hell to just burn that gas where it's welled as a middle finger to Germany.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:53
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Tesseraction posted:Interestingly enough on discord a goon responded to the news and me asking about the taps being turned off by saying that Russia cannot actually do that - the way their wells are designed would cause pressure build up and explosion. I doubt that would work that way, but I know EU has been buying up all the Russian gas it can for storage assuming it's going to get cut off eventually. Anyways, claimed call intercept from Russian commanders about field conditions: https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1506453063267241994?s=20&t=nSq6XulLABSRD2mRXGPmEA https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1506456704048902144?s=20&t=nSq6XulLABSRD2mRXGPmEA
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Tesseraction posted:Interestingly enough on discord a goon responded to the news and me asking about the taps being turned off by saying that Russia cannot actually do that - the way their wells are designed would cause pressure build up and explosion. I meant that in a virtual sense. In practical sense my understanding is that the entire network literally disintegrates if you stop moving gas through it at least at a certain minimum volume.
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Nenonen posted:It's a bit unsure anyway because it's not yet known if Central European insurers will let ships enter Russian waters in fear that they get stopped and confiscated by Russia. Some coverage I've seen is that insurance rates for cargo in that area are skyrocketing, so it may become a moot point depending on what mechanisms companies have to absorb those increased costs. In other news new map dropped https://twitter.com/SimTack/status/1506683341344546818?s=20&t=IF3Awb1pTOZNfhoa88k3TQ This account has been pretty conservative about Ukrainian gains in the past so it's a bit interesting to see their tone with regards to the Kyiv counterattacks. Also one thing I noted - it appears Russia may not be picking one axis to bolster with reinforcements and may instead be doubling down on the 'attack everywhere' philosophy that put them in this position. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out since it would make a lot more sense to stick with reinforcing the marginally successful Donbas axis or shoring up the offensive towards/around Mykolaiv in order to push to Odesa. IMO if troops are sent to Kyiv it would indicate that the reinforcements are prioritized by political not operational importance,
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Mar 23, 2022 18:56
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Grouchio posted:Yeah didn't the US/Germany just tell Poland 'shut up about peacekeeping that's stupid' today? Kinda? The U.S. at least seemed to make very clear that if they went in the U.S. would not be joining in, at least from a boots-on-the-ground perspective. But that statement seems to leave a bit of ambiguity regarding what they think about Poland putting boots on the ground. But I could very well have missed something.
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Grouchio posted:Yeah didn't the US/Germany just tell Poland 'shut up about peacekeeping that's stupid' today? Y’all are flip flopping on the language, but the one consistent theme is that Poland would be sticking its neck out alone, if it were to go for it.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:57
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Deteriorata posted:https://twitter.com/johnsweeneyroar/status/1506629556597366784 That is wild. West of Kyiv has a lot of forests which I figured played well with Ukrainian hit-and-run tactics. I feel like driving a Russian truck through a forest that speaks Ukrainian is a fairly unappealing assignment. East of Kyiv is a lot more open though so it seems the offensive is more than just taking advantage of local conditions.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:58
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Ynglaur posted:AT4s are also good anti-infantry weapons in urban environments. Enemy infantry squad in a building? Shoot the wall they're hiding behind. Need to breach a building to get inside? Shoot the wall (from a safe standoff). "Soft" vehicle target like a truck? Pop an AT-4 at it. What do you do with the spent AT-4 launcher after? Do you just throw it on the ground? Do spent stingers or javelins have any strategic value if the enemy finds them?
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Mar 23, 2022 18:58
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Baronjutter posted:I really wish someone would hit the Russia-Europe gas lines now so germans have a whole year to adapt and maybe buy a "home sweater" or two. It's like doing an intervention on an addict that keeps saying they'll get clean "one day". It will hurt, but the pain will be worse in the long run if they don't. You can always become a terrorist and do it yourself. All the adrenaline and serotonin of doing what you want without that pesky responsibility to Authority thing. Seriously though don't become a terrorist.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:59
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Missing Name posted:Interesting to see how the M72 LAW keeps getting brought back into service just for this lighter duty. Cheaper and lighter than the AT4 and RPG-22 I'm curious what version Norway sent over. The M72 exists in a variety of versions, Denmark sent over their entire stock of M72EC which had basically just been introduced.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:59
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:you mean google maps? i've seen it too ha, didn't have the video maximized so i missed the watermark. i assumed it was something from esri that all the municipalities around here use which has a very similar look. probably a better approach to paying out the nose for licenses
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Mar 23, 2022 19:01
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Kraftwerk posted:What do you do with the spent AT-4 launcher after? Do you just throw it on the ground? Do spent stingers or javelins have any strategic value if the enemy finds them? You just drop it, it’s even made out of plastic. And no, neither of that is of any value to Russia.
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Mar 23, 2022 19:01
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Kraftwerk posted:What do you do with the spent AT-4 launcher after? Do you just throw it on the ground? Do spent stingers or javelins have any strategic value if the enemy finds them? It's baisically just a shell casing, so it will just be dropped. cinci zoo sniper posted:And no, neither of that is of any value to Russia. You mean besides as a prop ion propaganda videos showing Russias crippling blows to Ukraine weapons supply? DekeThornton fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Mar 23, 2022 19:01
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William Bear posted:Maybe not just sweaters. On March 8th, the Washington Post reported this: Did someone say additional manufacturing jobs for made-in-USA products? Fuckin do it, Biden. We can send air conditioning units while we're at it, would probably save some lives during the now-annual record heat waves in Europe.
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Kraftwerk posted:What do you do with the spent AT-4 launcher after? Do you just throw it on the ground? it is junk at that point Kraftwerk posted:Do spent stingers or javelins have any strategic value if the enemy finds them? the tube the rocket comes in has no value at all the computer unit that hooks to the rocket tube is still pretty useful and expensive GhostofJohnMuir posted:ha, didn't have the video maximized so i missed the watermark. i assumed it was something from esri that all the municipalities around here use which has a very similar look. probably a better approach to paying out the nose for licenses google maps is pretty half rear end GIS but it does make sharing layers between locations a lot simpler, i wouldn't be surprised if the press shop was using it
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Mar 23, 2022 19:02
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Y’all are flip flopping on the language, but the one consistent theme is that Poland would be sticking its neck out alone, if it were to go for it.
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Trump posted:I'm curious what version Norway sent over. The M72 exists in a variety of versions, Denmark sent over their entire stock of M72EC which had basically just been introduced. Unless they dont work, any version would be great in urban fighting and would be welcomed.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Governments have been doing their own bans in addition to the EU-mandated ban on RT and Sputnik. Latvia has banned dozens of TV channels and news websites, for instance. Even kremlin.ru is banned. Wow, Kremlin.Ru seems to be banned like... everywhere in Europe? It's not Latvia specific at all - I can't access it in either Switzerland or in the Western EU. That all seems kind of nuts to me. I like the way that the US does deplatforming, but the EU way is doing this is... I dunno, sketchy. If you get a good telescope, you'd be able to see the edge of the slippery slope from here. Like, why is kremlin.ru blocked but I can go to sana.sy/fr and /en?
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Doccers posted:Sudden Catastrophic Load Induced Disassembly. Cabin overpressure valve
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Youth Decay posted:Did someone say additional manufacturing jobs for made-in-USA products? Fuckin do it, Biden. We can send air conditioning units while we're at it, would probably save some lives during the now-annual record heat waves in Europe. Please do, it was around 104F in my apartment for the 10 day heatwave last summer.
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Youth Decay posted:Did someone say additional manufacturing jobs for made-in-USA products? Fuckin do it, Biden. We can send air conditioning units while we're at it, would probably save some lives during the now-annual record heat waves in Europe. If the deep geothermal stuff takes off this could also be a precursor.
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John_A_Tallon posted:You can always become a terrorist and do it yourself. All the adrenaline and serotonin of doing what you want without that pesky responsibility to Authority thing. Not terrorism, special infrastructure adjustment.
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Nessus posted:Heat pumps can work both ways, can't they? Like they pump the heat down when it's hot and up when it's not. I don't know how these work. Yes, Heat Pumps basically work a lot like an normal AC system but you can reverse which side is hot vs cold. Also: some can also provide hot water.
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Grouchio posted:Right, and if they did that NATO has a way to de-escalate things in case Russia hit's Poland's bases, right? No it would be immediate nuclear war. Please calm down with hypotheticals about improbable events. Saladman posted:Wow, Kremlin.Ru seems to be banned like... everywhere in Europe? It's not Latvia specific at all - I can't access it in either Switzerland or in the Western EU. Syria isn’t really in the business of waging a noticeable information war against the EU. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Heat pumps are extremely cool and just as effective in gas assuming it doesn't get extremely cold and wet in winter
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Tesseraction posted:Interestingly enough on discord a goon responded to the news and me asking about the taps being turned off by saying that Russia cannot actually do that - the way their wells are designed would cause pressure build up and explosion. i would be interested in details on that i know that american gas wells can be capped but it's not good for the well - you lose gas you're never getting back - but those are fracked wells and those might work differently
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KitConstantine posted:The Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs has apparently reached out to the Russians about his plan to accompany aid to Mariupol Mariupol has a big Greek population that’s been there for two centuries since they were forcibly moved there by a tsar from crimea where they were for several millennia. It’s legit a big issue in Greece that Putin’s war timing this city in particular.
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Saladman posted:Wow, Kremlin.Ru seems to be banned like... everywhere in Europe? It's not Latvia specific at all - I can't access it in either Switzerland or in the Western EU. That capability does not exist. My packets drop after Rostelecom. In other words: It's the Russians.
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Grouchio posted:Yeah didn't the US/Germany just tell Poland 'shut up about peacekeeping that's stupid' today? Yeah, it's not getting a warm reception, certainly. Stoltenberg, too, was asked whether it might be a good idea to create a coalition of the willing outside of the aegis of NATO at the presser today. And while he has observe the diplomatic niceties and not step on Poland's toes, he did probably come as close as to saying that it's *not* a viable or prudent idea as a guy in his position likely can imo: "When it comes to forces – so NATO is not part of the conflict. We provide support to Ukraine, but we are not part of the conflict. We help Ukraine with upholding their right for self defence which is enshrined in the UN Charter. But NATO will not send troops into Ukraine. We have to understand that it is extremely important to provide support to Ukraine and we are stepping up, but at the same time it is also extremely important to prevent that this conflict becomes a full-fledged war between NATO and Russia. And therefore it has been a very clear message from NATO Allies that we will not send troops to Ukraine." https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_193610.htm?selectedLocale=en
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cinci zoo sniper posted:As expected. This is an incredibly convenient, legal way to start loving Russia up in a politically defensible way. It’s very easy to legalspeak this into “they turned our gas off”. What's up with Putin just becoming absolutely addicted to unforced errors.
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evilweasel posted:i would be interested in details on that Russia can vent the natural gas into the atmosphere losing all profit or sell it via pipeline to Europe those are the only two real options they have with it. There’s not infrastructure for capping or storage and no way to divert it to other markets. It’s also really important for Ukraine, they don’t want to kill any chance at future transit fees so it’s everyone’s interest to look the other way and let gas flow.
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KitConstantine posted:Some coverage I've seen is that insurance rates for cargo in that area are skyrocketing, so it may become a moot point depending on what mechanisms companies have to absorb those increased costs. Terrain limits their choices. A road only supports so many vehicles at once, doubling the amount of troops/vehicles you send down one road just makes the traffic jam longer. And they've proven pretty efficiently that they are not capable of cross-country movement at this time of year down there.
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Kraftwerk posted:What do you do with the spent AT-4 launcher after? Do you just throw it on the ground? Do spent stingers or javelins have any strategic value if the enemy finds them? Theoretically one could clean it up and make it look like a fresh unit. But it's actually booby trapped. Same goes for ANY munitions left abandoned. It's not so much of an issue if the ones deploying the weapons are advancing.
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KitConstantine posted:IMO if troops are sent to Kyiv it would indicate that the reinforcements are prioritized by political not operational importance, Wonder if that ever screwed anyone else over during a major land invasion of Eastern Europe. Probably not.
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GABA ghoul posted:There are not enough LNG terminals in Europe nor enough LNG suppliers to really make a dent here. Something like half of Europe is as dependent on Russian gas as Germany or more, it's not a problem that can be solved quickly. There is also a gas field that is already developed that is capable of supplying all of Europe that is in the process of being phased out, because extraction causes land subsidence and minor (<4.0) earthquakes. If there is serious risk of a really cold winter, I suspect that the Germans will just pay the Dutch to compensate damage to the people living in the area, and increase production in the field.
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