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While watching this I was like, "wow I don't remember this chapter at all." Because something like 80% of this episode was anime-original! They did a pretty good job with it, too. You'd never know that it's "filler." If anyone wants to compare versus the manga: https://spyxmanga.com/manga/spy-x-family-chapter-6/
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Unlucky7 posted:I love that the other agents were all in on it as well. Sort of. They're basically rationalizing that this is somehow super important for the mission; and in it to see Loid's skills; I dont think there was anything to indicate they were doing this for say, Anya's own sake.
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May 8, 2022 02:19
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I love that Loid's only issue with Yor going ham was that she shouldn't have been doing physical attacks since she was supposed to be a witch
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May 8, 2022 02:21
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Raenir Salazar posted:Sort of. They're basically rationalizing that this is somehow super important for the mission; and in it to see Loid's skills; I dont think there was anything to indicate they were doing this for say, Anya's own sake. I meant more that they are putting their full rear end into it.
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May 8, 2022 02:24
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A nice round of applause for the breakout new character: Bottle of Wine
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May 8, 2022 02:25
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Carlosologist posted:I love that Loid's only issue with Yor going ham was that she shouldn't have been doing physical attacks since she was supposed to be a witch I'm surprised none of the other agents were like "who is this woman who got a hit on Twilight??"
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May 8, 2022 02:29
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Carlosologist posted:I love that Loid's only issue with Yor going ham was that she shouldn't have been doing physical attacks since she was supposed to be a witch I wonder if he's chalked it up as being drunken fisticuffs or if his own skills are so high that he's subconsciously raised the bar as to what other people should be able to accomplish?
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May 8, 2022 03:08
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Yor's done kung-fu stuff in other eps, Loid would have figured it out by now. That fact that he doesn't comment makes me thing he's spent so much time as a spy and so little as a civilian that that sort of thing seems commonplace to him now.
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May 8, 2022 03:14
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Hold Anya gentle, like hamburger
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May 8, 2022 03:44
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Yor's done kung-fu stuff in other eps, Loid would have figured it out by now. That fact that he doesn't comment makes me thing he's spent so much time as a spy and so little as a civilian that that sort of thing seems commonplace to him now. I think it's also that this mission is taking him so far out of his comfort zone and stressing him out that Loid is either consciously or unconsciously rationalizing Yor's blatant superpowers because she's worked out almost perfectly as a fake wife/mom and having to suspect her for any reason would just be another complication. He is originally suspicious when she manages to get behind him in the tailor shop without him noticing when they very first meet but he pretty much drops it immediately when he realizes she's a potential wife.
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May 8, 2022 03:57
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Loid flash stepping to answer the phone when they were waiting to hear the news was pretty funny.
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May 8, 2022 05:21
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Just straight up fought the entire WISE organization for the daughter
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May 8, 2022 05:46
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May 8, 2022 05:56
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I've been waiting for Drunk Yor since the start of the show and this episode did not disappoint.
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May 8, 2022 07:28
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https://i.imgur.com/Gdl6P22.mp4
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May 8, 2022 07:35
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That GIF makes it clear Yor is a Chaika who minmaxed Strength. 
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May 8, 2022 08:38
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Just popping in to say I watched the first two episodes today and am hooked.
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May 8, 2022 09:47
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I feel like Loid and Yor are basically Archer characters, without the misanthropy: Good at what they do, but dumb at just about everything else.
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May 8, 2022 10:11
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The ED has a music video with english subs, the lyrics fit pretty well with the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Oyplmhhv0
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May 8, 2022 16:03
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Unlucky7 posted:I feel like Loid and Yor are basically Archer characters, without the misanthropy: Good at what they do, but dumb at just about everything else. Archer characters aren't really good at their jobs either 
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Raenir Salazar posted:Archer characters aren't really good at their jobs either Archer, Lana, and even Cyril are hilariously good at Spy poo poo underneath all the dysfunction.
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May 8, 2022 16:30
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WISE: "Wow, we blew so much of our annual operational budget on that stunt." Awesome stuff.
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May 8, 2022 16:47
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Electric Phantasm posted:The ED has a music video with english subs, the lyrics fit pretty well with the show. I want to know what the lyrics for the opening are so I can understand why it ends with a picture of a stomach.
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May 8, 2022 17:03
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I want to know what the lyrics for the opening are so I can understand why it ends with a picture of a stomach. The OP also has a music video with english subs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbH2F0kXgTY
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I want to know what the lyrics for the opening are so I can understand why it ends with a picture of a stomach. It's something like "these secrets and lies are giving me an upset stomach" at that point iirc
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May 8, 2022 17:12
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So, as a non-manga reader, I hope we're going to get something about why Yor being an assassin is different than Loid being a spy. Because right now her role seems purely to add another personality to the mix, given that Loid apparently can do everything she can. *insert griping about spies being really good at killing people instead of doing intelligence work*
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May 8, 2022 17:25
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Loid is nowhere near as good at combat as Yor.
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Maera Sior posted:So, as a non-manga reader, I hope we're going to get something about why Yor being an assassin is different than Loid being a spy. Because right now her role seems purely to add another personality to the mix, given that Loid apparently can do everything she can. *insert griping about spies being really good at killing people instead of doing intelligence work* Loid is the best spy Westalis has, and can basically take on the entire Westalis spy network solo but Yor was nearly able to overwhelm him, to the point he thought he might die, within a few seconds, while drunk and she only failed because she was too drunk to react to her shoe breaking. She is absolutely more capable as a fighter than Loid.
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Also she just kills people, Twilight does a bunch of different stuff.
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Well, as Loid said, she doesn't cook but she does keep the house clean and, more broadly speaking, she's an actual parental figure who's not just around when Loid isn't or can't be, but who fully believes in her role. Loid is a parental figure, but his parenting is directly tied to the mission and the two occasionally come into conflict in his mind as priorities. Yor has no actual greater cause for it; to her, Anya is her daughter, and that's that. She wants to raise her as it's own end, not just as a means to an end. I'm going to put an additional bit of context in spoilers too, but it's something the anime has implied, if not outright stated (I can't remember if it's been explicit yet or not) and isn't a major spoiler regardless: Yor is not just someone who believes in her role as a maternal figure, but who has actual experience in that role, having raised her younger brother. tsob fucked around with this message at 17:54 on May 8, 2022 |
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tsob posted:Loid is the best spy Westalis has, and can basically take on the entire Westalis spy network solo but Yor was nearly able to overwhelm him, to the point he thought he might die, within a few seconds, while drunk and she only failed because she was too drunk to react to her shoe breaking. She is absolutely more capable as a fighter than Loid. This is anime, I'm not going to assume someone is a worse fighter when drunk.
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Maera Sior posted:This is anime, I'm not going to assume someone is a worse fighter when drunk. She could be just as good drunk as sober and it'd still mean she can put Loid purely on the defense and overwhelm even that in a few seconds. You'd have to assume she's significantly better drunk than sober, without anyone actually giving any reason to think that's true beyond "well, it's anime", to conclude that she's not a far better fighter than him.
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Hidingo Kojimba posted:WISE: "Wow, we blew so much of our annual operational budget on that stunt." You know how they say raising a child is expensive? Well...
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Maera Sior posted:So, as a non-manga reader, I hope we're going to get something about why Yor being an assassin is different than Loid being a spy. Because right now her role seems purely to add another personality to the mix, given that Loid apparently can do everything she can. *insert griping about spies being really good at killing people instead of doing intelligence work* There will be, but also Assassin: Kills people, nearly exclusively any work they do is going to involve SOMEONE DYING, generally a target and their bodyguards, although sometimes assassins are brought along as a bodyguard themselves (being good at killing someone through their security means you generally have a good idea of how you would stop someone from doing the same.) or as muscle for something else. Spy: Generally engages in activities to benefit the interests of their employer, in twilights case his country. Might kill someone, might just plant embarrassing things about that person, might secretly help someone out because its better for their country for that person to be in power. Generally someone like Twlight is going to be doing anything asked or required of him which generally does not involve large amounts of murder. First episode where he beats up the guy who wanted to reveal the toupee he doesn't really kill any of his gang or the guy himself, no reason to do so. Yor would have just completely obliterated that guy and his gang just to be sure.
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Unlucky7 posted:I feel like Loid and Yor are basically Archer characters, without the misanthropy: Good at what they do, but dumb at just about everything else. Yor is dumb, Loid isn't but my read is that both of them are so concerned with keeping up the charade and happy that it's somehow working that they're just not registering any of the weird stuff that happens. Yor can pressure-point a cow? Thank god I didn't have to use the pistol. Loid can punch a table in half? Thank god he didn't notice me about to kill the examiners.
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tsob posted:Loid is the best spy Westalis has, and can basically take on the entire Westalis spy network solo but Yor was nearly able to overwhelm him, to the point he thought he might die, within a few seconds, while drunk and she only failed because she was too drunk to react to her shoe breaking. She is absolutely more capable as a fighter than Loid. From what I've heard, in the manga, there was a lot less excitement by the other spies in doing this and seemed to be more annoyance than anything. The anime is an improvement
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Xelkelvos posted:From what I've heard, in the manga, there was a lot less excitement by the other spies in doing this and seemed to be more annoyance than anything. The anime is an improvement In the manga Loid didn't fight any of the other spies, but they're shown wanting to get his autograph so they're not actually like, annoyed or anything. The entire fight and chase sequence was added up until Yor drunkenly attacks Loid. The castle stuff is only like a third of the chapter this episode adapts.
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Arist posted:In the manga Loid didn't fight any of the other spies, but they're shown wanting to get his autograph so they're not actually like, annoyed or anything. The entire fight and chase sequence was added up until Yor drunkenly attacks Loid. Yeah I read that chapter specifically since it got linked here and in the manga they just show up to the castle and there's one page of Loid calling all his spy buddies to come dress up. Then Anya stands in a corner yelling about being captured and Loid/Yor fight. It's extremely brief and imo the anime did a very good job blowing it up into a fantastic over the top set piece. The manga doesn't even have the airplane, which means this is 100% anime original and has me fully onboard: 
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This was the highest budget filler episode in anime history. I loved every second of it, show owns.
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Something nobody's mentioned about the Loid and Yor fight is that Loid can't actually, y'know, fight back. If he actually went all out on Yor it would completely gently caress up his whole mission.
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