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pseudorandom name posted:What I'm hearing is that it is a multidimensional graph with horny/unhorny and problematic/non-problematic as two of the axes. Four of the axes, since "the work" and "the author" are orthogonal sets of dimensions.
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Captain Monkey posted:Was going to post this exact thing. This blogger seems like a moron, and using woke as a pejorative is just one of many red flags. Ah, Godwin's Second Law https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163
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# ? Jun 15, 2022 21:36 |
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i started this one
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https://twitter.com/dogunderwater/status/1537106608739721229quote:Did you read The Odyssey? And if so, when?
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Copernic posted:i started this one I'm pretty sure this is just covid 19.
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Sunshine by Robin McKinley - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OGWASCI/
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Kalman posted:Orcs. Jewish-coded dwarves. Etc. Orcs I get. But I never even once thought of the Dwarves as Jewish. They always came off as slightly greedier, more violent, shorter Vikings.
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Everyone posted:Orcs I get. But I never even once thought of the Dwarves as Jewish. They always came off as slightly greedier, more violent, shorter Vikings. Tolkien explicitly based the dwarvish language on hebrew. They're also bearded, hoard gold, etc.
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Everyone posted:Orcs I get. But I never even once thought of the Dwarves as Jewish. They always came off as slightly greedier, more violent, shorter Vikings. well, Tolkien said as much in his letters himself so it's a bit closer to philosemitism than antisemitism but that's not exactly great either
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Tolkien explicitly based the dwarvish language on hebrew. They're also bearded, hoard gold, etc. He based the black speech on hurrian, a then recently deciphered Semitic language. I don’t think he thought that Hurrian speakers were any more barbaric than their neighbors, but they had a wicked ugly sounding language.
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is there a single real life culture that's exclusively clean shaven. i just don't get how beards are a clear Jewish thing
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Larry Parrish posted:is there a single real life culture that's exclusively clean shaven. i just don't get how beards are a clear Jewish thing I’ve read that there are ethnicities that have difficulty growing facial hair. To be fair though there’s like a 50% chance I read it from H.P. Lovecraft or Robert E. Howard.
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Dang, I knew I should've said my manuscript is a queer retelling of the myth of Sekhmet.
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And the thing that annoys me most is that she said it's written in a prose-y way, when it is a poem. I get what she meant but like - she's a writer. Words mean things.
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Larry Parrish posted:is there a single real life culture that's exclusively clean shaven. i just don't get how beards are a clear Jewish thing It's a stereotype, it doesn't have to make sense
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HopperUK posted:And the thing that annoys me most is that she said it's written in a prose-y way, when it is a poem. I get what she meant but like - she's a writer. Words mean things. Her advice to other aspiring writers is "get on Twitter'. YA book twitter is easily the most toxic, most backbiting community on twitter. e: you'll have to take my word for it they took down the article lol
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# ? Jun 16, 2022 00:30 |
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Larry Parrish posted:is there a single real life culture that's exclusively clean shaven. i just don't get how beards are a clear Jewish thing Some traditional varieties of Judaism religiously require beards. That's hardly the only religion for which that's the case, but there generally weren't significant Sikh or Muslim populations living in many European societies.
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# ? Jun 16, 2022 00:32 |
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If you read between the lines she got a book deal because she networked with a bunch of YA twitter authors right before they got book deals and blew up who could then help her make publishing contacts and had a line to an agent through one of her professors. She's also pretty frank about writing what she wrote because those books were selling/getting deals, so I at least appreciate that honesty. I'm way more productive this week when I am suspended from twitter so I advise you all to stay away from it, but especially stay away from YA author twitter.
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pseudorandom name posted:What I'm hearing is that it is a multidimensional graph with horny/unhorny and problematic/non-problematic as two of the axes. It's a graph of disturbing alien angles, which is why HP Lovecraft isn't visible on it.
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What we need is a graph that is very busy, but if you stare at it long enough, you see either a sailboat or a horny sailboat. Then you have your answer for a particular author.
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# ? Jun 16, 2022 00:58 |
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Did she at least read the Cliffs Notes? Do kids today even have Cliffs Notes anymore, or is that another hopelessly dated reference?
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zoux posted:Her advice to other aspiring writers is "get on Twitter'. YA book twitter is easily the most toxic, most backbiting community on twitter. https://web.archive.org/web/2022061...ublished-author quote:Did you read The Odyssey? And if so, when?
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Edit: maybe in poor taste lol
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Thanks for the tangential reminder to finish The Song of Achilles, I guess
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zoux posted:Her advice to other aspiring writers is "get on Twitter'. YA book twitter is easily the most toxic, most backbiting community on twitter. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's a stereotype, it doesn't have to make sense Granted. It still flew over my head when applied to Dwarves. I guess a 5 works for Tolkien. He did inspire a Led Zepplin song but also inspired Gary Gygax to be the sperm donor of RPGs.
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Everyone posted:Granted. It still flew over my head when applied to Dwarves. I guess a 5 works for Tolkien. He did inspire a Led Zepplin song but also inspired Gary Gygax to be the sperm donor of RPGs. and which of those is redeeming?
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# ? Jun 16, 2022 01:52 |
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What are you trying to tell me here, little man, that you don't like Zep?
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it's sage advice to hang out on Twitter all day if you're writing books so you get taken seriously on Twitter, not so much if you're doing literally anything else with your life. in fact i don't know why you'd want to waste your time on any social media thing like that.
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Megasabin posted:For some reason I always thought Red Rising was a young adult series. I started it and kept being like, "Hmm, this sort of language usually isn't used in a young adult novel", "this sort of content usually isn't..". Then I got to the scene Where for the passage he has to fight another student. And not just any student-- a friendly student he had already met earlier that seemed coded to become a "best friend" type character. I figured he would figure out a way to cheat the system so they both live. Instead he just mercs the kid. Well before that point Darrow mercy killed his pregnant wife while she was being hung for treason. At that point I was pretty sure it was not a regular YA book. And man, for my money it absolutely does. e: Also, I strongly recommend the Red Rising series and the Iron Gold follow on books, but serious content warning for violence and sexual violence. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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When I was in middle school I had some friends who got into David Eddings books and talked a lot about them, and I remember there always being a big display of them at the bookfair, but I just viscerally didn't want to read them because they sounded like the most generic Tolkien and D&D rip-off crap. I just remember hearing that there was a smooth d&d thief character named Silk who was one of the main characters. And the first book is called "Pawn of Prophesy." It just all sounded horribly bland. And this was even at a time when I was reading tons of licensed Forgotten Realms books along with more adult/pretentious stuff. I guess my middle school thinking was "Well, at least these Dungeons and Dragons books I read are fully aware that they're schlock and lean into into it." They also had a lot of weird but memorable moments. Those David Eddings books all seemed really forgettable.
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I liked the thing in one of the Eddings books where the protagonist uh goes forward in time a long way? and is all "whoa what is this knife made of, this isn't bronze" coincidentally that is all I remember about the Eddings I have read and I will not be reading more.
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ed, edd, and eddings
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Copernic posted:we should use the Piers-Lovecraft Scale, which evaluates books on a 1-10 ladder of being problematic: There you go.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I liked the thing in one of the Eddings books where the protagonist uh goes forward in time a long way? and is all "whoa what is this knife made of, this isn't bronze" Redemption of athalus I think. There's a bit where he (the greatest thief in the world who's been sent way forward in time) breaks into a store's office to steal all the money and then all he finds are these worthless papers he throws around and leaves, only to talk about it later to a guy who goes "yea, that paper stuff is money." while he goes
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zoux posted:Her advice to other aspiring writers is "get on Twitter'. YA book twitter is easily the most toxic, most backbiting community on twitter. Unrelated to anything but can I ask where you AV is from? I really like it.
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HopperUK posted:And the thing that annoys me most is that she said it's written in a prose-y way, when it is a poem. I get what she meant but like - she's a writer. She's a YA writer.
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Unrelated to anything but can I ask where you AV is from? I really like it. Looks like Grim Fandango to me but now I'm curious too.
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I’ve just finished Seven Surrenders by Ada Palmer, the second book in her Terra Ignota quartet. Loving the series so far - it’s wonderfully dense with ideas and characters that stick in the brain. Looking forward to reading book three (The Will to Battle) after a quick break for some holiday trash. High level and woefully incomplete overview - in a future where society has been at peace for almost three hundred years, what price should society be willing to pay to maintain that peace?
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A Proper Uppercut posted:Unrelated to anything but can I ask where you AV is from? I really like it. I clipped it out of a random issue of Hellboy. I really like how Mignola draws skulls (though this one in particluar was drawn by Duncan Fegredo, who started pencilling books when Mignola got too busy to both write and draw Hellboy) I will take this opportunity to plug Hellboy, which is far and away my favorite comic. It is also nothing like the movies, GDT turned Hellboy from a taciturn, hardboiled detective in the style of Sam Spade into a fast talking quip machine. I hate the loving movies. There are two kinds of Hellboy stories. The first one deals with the overarching metaplot involving Nazis and other malicious actors trying to contact and release Lovecraftian-style monsters upon the earth. It reminds me a lot of Declare by Tim Powers, if you've ever read that. The second type are folk tales. Mignola is obsessed with folktales from cultures around the world, and will often adapt them for HB, with Hellboy acting mostly as an observer. These are also excellent. Hellboy is a complete story, as its companion, B.P.R.D. This book is closer to the movies, it has all the side characters like Abe Sapien and Liz Sherman. That book deals with a secret government agency that's fighting against these forces that are trying to contact and release Lovecraftian-style monsters upon the earth. It is written but not drawn by Mignola, and it is also excellent. Comics are expensive, but the first three trades (so 18 issues) are available on Kindle Unlimited, so sign up for a free trial and see if you like them! I've read through both series multiple times, they are marvelous.
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