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OddObserver posted:Not really? For one thing Bialiatski is mostly fighting against Lukashenka regime. The three organisations collaborated and supported each other on more than one occasion. We are different countries, but we're in it together because of Putin. Fighting against Lukashenko's regime is fighting against Russia's imperial aspirations, shedding light on Stalin-era repressions is disrupting Kremlin's narrative about one great Russia under different names throughout centuries.
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FishBulbia posted:https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1578413981076983808 Sounds like it's time for the Pentagon to have a little talk with him. Also, speaking of dumb: https://mobile.twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1578156620722278400 (Dopa looks 100% less... dopey with the beard)
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OddObserver posted:Sounds like it's time for the Pentagon to have a little talk with him. Also, speaking of dumb: Dobkin is the perfect representation of what Russian aggression has done to Ukrainian national consciousness. Completely obliterated real divisions and entirely unified the Ukrainian idea. Stepan Putin has caused the voluntary destruction of Russian cultural influence in Ukraine to a greater extant than all but the most harsh nationalists advocated for. FishBulbia fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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FishBulbia posted:Dobkin is the perfect repression of what Russian aggression has done to Ukrainian national consciousness. Completely obliterated real divisions and entirely unified the Ukrainian idea. Stepan Putin has caused the voluntary destruction of Russian cultural influence in Ukraine to a greater extant then all but the most harsh nationalists advocated for. Comparison shot as of 8 years ago:  (With Gepa)
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FishBulbia posted:https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1578413981076983808 https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1578413363138244608 sounds like its just alot of weird outages. mayber over streached. i can believe that musk would do it, but he would brag about it.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1578413363138244608 The US DOD is paying for it for a defense purpose, even if that is in another country. I doubt Elon would be quite so dumb as to intentionally gently caress with it. (HE certainly is stupid enough, but the person actually with hands on keyboard or relaying orders is probably aware of what is in the contract.)
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/edent/status/1578428055684538372 https://mobile.twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1578415337082875909
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Herstory Begins Now posted:The more we learn about the early days of the war the less I feel like I understand how Ukraine actually stopped the Russian military. Like I get the big picture stuff and all the rot that destroyed the Russians from the inside, but the human side of it of a bunch of lightly armed uncles living in trenches in whatever tree cover they could find getting shelled and fighting off repeated russian armored pushes is just an insane accomplishment. Honestly I think people buy into the pro-ukraine propaganda about Russian incompetence too much sometimes to the extent that they lose sight of just how crazy what Ukraine accomplished really is. Incompetent and rotten or not, the Russian military never stopped being incredibly capable of unleashing destruction around it. Standing up to that and willing the possibility of victory into existence is incredible. One thing I think that gets overlooked about specifically the Kyiv offensive is that Belorussian partisans likely played a huge role in loving up the Russian supply lines and making an already poorly planned push into an unmitigated disaster. While Russia may be incompetent, the “incompetence” we saw on that front far outweighs anything we’ve seen anywhere else at any point in this war.
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Zhanism posted:I dont know if i like the idea of the UAF telling elon very timely updates on their movements. I imagine they’re not telling him unless Musk is super hands-on with every one of his companies.
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Zhanism posted:I dont know if i like the idea of the UAF telling elon very timely updates on their movements. I mean besides what he could already easily find out just by where the signals are coming from, the UAF is more than likely delaying any updates to "unlock" geographic regions just as they do with news reports on liberations.
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It's not just Musk, it's Starlink employees in general. I wouldn't trust them and I think it's probably pretty reasonable for there to be some OPSEC lag in updating the coverage with a third party corporation, even if it is fulfilling a military purpose Especially an IT company, have you ever met any tech people? Their political beliefs are often incredibly questionable, even when they aren't working for shithead billionaire scum
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Crow Buddy posted:The US DOD is paying for it for a defense purpose, even if that is in another country. I doubt Elon would be quite so dumb as to intentionally gently caress with it. (HE certainly is stupid enough, but the person actually with hands on keyboard or relaying orders is probably aware of what is in the contract.) I’m with this post. I think Musk is a vapid moron, but there’s a vapid moron, and then there’s a person who takes federal dollars from DoD and spends them on enabling Russia to destroy paid-for by federal dollars NATO tech operated by a quasi-allied defending army which enjoys bipartisan support on the Capitol Hill.
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boofhead posted:It's not just Musk, it's Starlink employees in general. I wouldn't trust them and I think it's probably pretty reasonable for there to be some OPSEC lag in updating the coverage with a third party corporation, even if it is fulfilling a military purpose IT people have beliefs? That's news to me.
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The sanctions probably prevent Musk from providing internet to Russian combat forces in Ukraine (i've not checked to see if this is the case though) so I'm sure they are erring on blocking access to areas in Russian control and only whitelisting them when they get confirmation of Ukranian control, or whitelisting specific modems known to be in the possession of Ukrainian forces.
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Libluini posted:IT people have beliefs? That's news to me. Idk you have a hyper concentrate of university ideas and associated decay products. Its the melting pot of fringe ideas grabbed to sound like smart guy or be in a campus social circle. You can meet ideologies you have to look up, like sparticusts. Of course the most common are pure futurists and tech oriented ancaps, both who act very mercenary with who and what they work for. Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Most common IT people are ... normie liberals.
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boofhead posted:It's not just Musk, it's Starlink employees in general. I wouldn't trust them and I think it's probably pretty reasonable for there to be some OPSEC lag in updating the coverage with a third party corporation, even if it is fulfilling a military purpose It's an American company, tech people here are much less likely than the average American to have insane politics (but the exceptions are loud and may be disproportionately likely to work for Starlink). The people you have to watch out for are like chiropractors and regional boat dealership managers.
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mutata posted:A good opportunity to nationalize Starlink, imo. It could be called Stalink
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mutata posted:A good opportunity to nationalize Starlink, imo. Not a bad idea, but I want to mention that there are a lot of controls over SpaceX already, since they work directly with launching US defense hardware, and any rocket tech is a national security issue. Especially with the Starlink deal for Ukraine, I imagine the US government is involved in a lot of the logistics for that. We already know they footed some of the bill.
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Chill Monster posted:One thing I think that gets overlooked about specifically the Kyiv offensive is that Belorussian partisans likely played a huge role in loving up the Russian supply lines and making an already poorly planned push into an unmitigated disaster. While Russia may be incompetent, the “incompetence” we saw on that front far outweighs anything we’ve seen anywhere else at any point in this war. Yeah 100% and they paid a big price for it, too.
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A very good summary of recent events in Ukraine and on the mobilization. The source is new to me, but everything he's saying checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djc-aIGwUsI
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OddObserver posted:Most common IT people are ... normie liberals. This is my experience as well.
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Morrow posted:Elon Musk definitely does not have any security clearance. Pretty sure he does due to SpaceX launching some of NROs most sensitive satellites.
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Justaddwater posted:Pretty sure he does due to SpaceX launching some of NROs most sensitive satellites. I'm sure some people who work at SpaceX have the appropriate clearance, but lets not pretend Elon personally makes any real contribution to the things his companies do
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Chalks posted:I'm sure some people who work at SpaceX have the appropriate clearance, but lets not pretend Elon personally makes any real contribution to the things his companies do Well. not positive contributions, no
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Libluini posted:IT people have beliefs? That's news to me. Most IT people believe you should turn it off then turn it on again.
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OddObserver posted:Most common IT people are ... normie liberals. Yeah. We’ve got one or two light libertarian types, but most of the computer touchers I work with are pretty decent human beings, surprisingly. Now some of them are guilty of the whole “I’m good at this ONE hard thing so I’m good at all hard things” bit going on, but that seems to be common with anything difficult/highly technical to learn. Tech billionaires are a different type of lovely, regular billionaire lovely combined with “I KNOW COMPUTER, I KNOW EVERYTHING” tl;Dr: I’m more inclined to believe that it’s lag time re: Starlink issues in Ukraine E: and if musk were doing something, he’d say it. He’s an egotist, he wouldn’t be able to stop himself. Look at what he did with something stupid like the twitter deal he hosed. He has no discipline for poo poo like that. tehinternet fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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OddObserver posted:Sounds like it's time for the Pentagon to have a little talk with him. Also, speaking of dumb: Hey it’s me, the guy TOTALLY fighting a war in a fresh from the cleaners plate carrier, helmet and uniform What guys, I’m totally fighting, no REALLY I mean for real, I’m surprised he doesn’t have tags hanging off of them
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https://twitter.com/geoconfirmed/status/1578476200917225472 Edit: Hitting critical levels of Girkin https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1578401943495614465 Edit2: lmao https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1578410192164765698 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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