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Actual communication is good! Only thing I'd be concerned about is them holding what they've already teased with the most recent Vox video back. Make sure to include that at least so folks have something new to mess around with.
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This is the best thing they could have done at this point so good. But also lol if it takes another several months to get a finished crafting system.
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Typical Pubbie posted:They're gonna have to scrap the current loot system. Sure, being able to change or upgrade blessings will reduce the grind, but then what? It's still dull and uninspired. It was a huge mistake not to rip off COD. The gently caress lol. The gameplay is anything but dull, no-one wants a CoD clone while CoD exists.
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Jan 24, 2023 20:30
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I didn't say gameplay.
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I'm fine with them scrapping the current crafting system, it's poo poo.
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Jan 24, 2023 20:36
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What about if you had to pay dockets for a contract from Melk and the contract defined a weapon or upgrade you're receiving at the end of a successful mission, with the difficulty being defined by the traits etc on the weapon
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Jan 24, 2023 20:40
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:We got the lack of identity/memorability caused by reuse of prefab level chunks without the increased raw number of maps you would expect that approach to enable. Win-win! Whether memorability is what you want with procedurally generated content is another question. I actually lean towards liking CW's way of doing it, because (like someone said earlier) each chunk being hand-crafted and memorable means you can get to know micro-strategies for the maps, like good places to fight a horde or ledge monsters etc. And lots of other games with much more random proc-gen have the problem that the stuff they generate can feel kinda generic and meaningless (after all noise is perfectly random). I think DRG suffers from this a bit, personally. One Dense Biozone map feels much like another after a while. Zephro fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jan 24, 2023 |
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Jan 24, 2023 20:43
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Also yes, that statement is good. If they want a new crafting system just rip off their own one from Vermintide 2. It's right there! They wrote it themselves a few short years ago!
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Jan 24, 2023 20:45
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lol it took them two months after launch to make an announcement to acknowledge the fact that they hosed up the launch i get that people are going to react with "finally some communication" but this isn't actually anything.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:lol it took them two months after launch to make an announcement to acknowledge the fact that they hosed up the launch It's basically the sample text that a few people banged out in this thread as an example of how you could respond coherently to the current issues and communicate with the player base in all of ten minutes.
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Jan 24, 2023 20:51
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Yeah at this point how long are we gonna have to wait for them to list changes then actually get it working? It's very clear they are not skilled coders so the question is how many months before the game gets back on track? All the while the game has massive broken feats, broken blessings, and no real end game beyond trying to guess what the crafting system will be and whether or not you can come out ahead of it. In VT2 launch you at least could hunt for reds and cosmetics which kept me playing but i literally have zero reason to ever play DT again until the devs get off their asses. It's a good thing they launched with neutered bots that will make playing with low player count impossible, it was a very good idea from them!
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Jan 24, 2023 20:56
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They should take their remaining premium cosmetics and make them free unlockables. Would help alleviate their progression problem.
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Jan 24, 2023 20:57
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Typical Pubbie posted:They should take their remaining premium cosmetics and make them free unlockables. Would help alleviate their progression problem. And utterly piss off those who paid for them lol
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Jan 24, 2023 21:01
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:lol it took them two months after launch to make an announcement to acknowledge the fact that they hosed up the launch That feels on par with how long it takes some AAA devs to even acknowledge their hosed up launches.
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Jan 24, 2023 21:07
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The Demilich posted:And utterly piss off those who paid for them lol By remaining I mean the unreleased ones.
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Jan 24, 2023 21:10
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The Demilich posted:And utterly piss off those who paid for them lol I think they meant the stuff that's on deck but hasn't been up for sale yet
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Jan 24, 2023 21:10
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I wouldn't say no to more mission variety while they're at it It feels more like a demo than a full game with how many times I've replayed three of them
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Jan 24, 2023 21:18
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I feel like they flubbed it a bit by exclusively talking about things that are being delayed/removed when we desperately want to hear about anything that might be down the line, even if it's not immediate. Like tell us what you're currently focusing on!
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As an initial response, this is perfectly serviceable. Looking forward to seeing what they're planning. Still though, I would love to see what's coming with that Vox Comm.
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At this point I'm inclined to believe that Fatshark doesn't have any seasonal content planned. "Months" to address the feedback. lol what a stuff up.
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Jan 24, 2023 21:24
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this was the several weeks delayed community update? lol
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Jan 24, 2023 21:28
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There is still going to be the community post about what they are looking to actually do that is supposed to also come this week so I hope it drops soon!!
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Jerkface posted:There is still going to be the community post about what they are looking to actually do that is supposed to also come this week so I hope it drops soon!! allegedly, no 
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Typical Pubbie posted:They're gonna have to scrap the current loot system. Sure, being able to change or upgrade blessings will reduce the grind, but then what? It's still dull and uninspired. It was a huge mistake not to rip off COD. It was a huge mistake to introduce loot progression in games like this to begin with. Hated it in Battlefield and COD as well.
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The new form: pleading apologies
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Abroham Lincoln posted:this was the several weeks delayed community update? You know, you can put the game down for a few, and come back to it at a later time. It was the holidays, and having lived in Sweden for a couple of years I'm not surprised it takes them a while. Work ethic is different there. Not like the idiot rat race we have in NA.
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Work ethic is different there; they dont friggin do it, apparently!!!!!!!
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Jesus, am I going to have to leave the thread for months because some people can't help but make it completely intolerable to read again? It's the Cyberpunk thread all over again, except this game is in a much better state than that was at release.
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Dandywalken posted:Work ethic is different there; they dont friggin do it, apparently!!!!!!! 
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Kokoro Wish posted:Jesus, am I going to have to leave the thread for months because some people can't help but make it completely intolerable to read again? Gosh darnit, stop complaining that you crash every other game when I do not!
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Abroham Lincoln posted:allegedly, no oh i saw some other CM post that led me to believe there was going to be some further explanation but the CMs said they were under NDA and had to wait for them to be cleared at least theres gonna be a patch with patch notes?
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Stanley Pain posted:You know, you can put the game down for a few, and come back to it at a later time. yeah I already did put it down for weeks now, this was me coming back to check in
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Kwolok posted:Gosh darnit, stop complaining that you crash every other game when I do not! That's not what the complaint is about at all and this is pretty bad faith of a take imo.
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Kwolok posted:Gosh darnit, stop complaining that you crash every other game when I do not! Pour exemple.
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Delaying seasonal content? errr... one of the main issues too is lack of content, not only the progression and crafting. And it isn't like your level designers and artists are going to be doing the new progression and crafting systems, right?
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Turin Turambar posted:Delaying seasonal content? errr... one of the main issues too is lack of content, not only the progression and crafting. And it isn't like your level designers and artists are going to be doing the new progression and crafting systems, right? if it was content that worked and didn't need implementation, testing and bugfixes it would probably be in the game already.
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Kokoro Wish posted:Jesus, am I going to have to leave the thread for months because some people can't help but make it completely intolerable to read again? what are you talking about
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Turin Turambar posted:Delaying seasonal content? errr... one of the main issues too is lack of content, not only the progression and crafting. And it isn't like your level designers and artists are going to be doing the new progression and crafting systems, right? I think the implications is they're going to make sure majority of bugs are squashed and test stuff before implementing it but well. Who knows? Here's hoping.
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I'd imagine the first chunk of season content was probably going to be even more paid cosmetics and a battle pass as well, not a shitload of levels and new enemies and stuff. So putting that back is basically just putting back more bad press they don't need right now.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:if it was content that worked and didn't need implementation, testing and bugfixes it would probably be in the game already. There are a lot of cosmetics ready to ship right now, that content is definitely being held back as part of the monetisation scheme https://imgur.com/a/oA0UPAe
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