Starbucks posted:

Considering the footprint of this L shaped monstrosity I am surprised you have not got in roof solar / solar heating / battery.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Theres also some missing elements like there will inevitably be a straight up electric immersion heater in the hot water tank for emergencies.

But the plan is to have the system be smart enough to recognise a coming issue and like the google home in the kitchen or your phone says, light a fire at 5 o'clock tonight and I won't have to turn the immersion on, this will be cheaper for you.

Even more ideally the robot grass cutter/bin taker out robot has already been down to the log store and is (endearingly) bumping against the bifold doors with a backpack of logs and a smiley/burning face on it.

Leperflesh posted:

or perhaps he'll hire a python programmer off ebay

Jaded Burnout posted:

what happened to middle guy?

Sarah Bellum posted:

This is where he posts the end result: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3819901&pagenumber=168&perpage=40#post492921243

Sarah Bellum posted:

This is where he posts the end result: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3819901&pagenumber=168&perpage=40#post492921243

Raised by Hamsters posted:

So this system will be able to recognize, isolate, and prioritize situations where you're running UFH in cooling mode but also taking a hot shower and drawing down your tank? That sounds cool but also like a bit of a headache to set up.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

just coming apart. great

Docjowles posted:

I’m glad “goon converts his bathroom into a loving DOOM level to enhance sex appeal” gets reposted every couple years. Cause I remember broad strokes like intentionally sabotaging the joists under his weird gravel tub but miss the finer details. The blood red shades

vanity slug posted:

I'm really upset about the misaligned but identical tiles on the wall / floor.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Muir posted:

How does one extract energy from an octopus, anyway?

Muir posted:

How does one extract energy from an octopus, anyway?

Leperflesh posted:

yeah that's basically a design flaw. This style door:

was traditionally built with floating panels, like this:


The panels are the wide bits of wood that will expand and contract the most with moisture changes, and since they "float" e.g. are not nailed or screwed or glued in, they can do that without cracking the frame apart. They could still split the paint, but that was acceptable compared to destroying the door.

NNJAN99's door having all those vertical slats made of real wood basically guarantees that with moisture changes they're going to shift and separate, but the cracks will be way more visible because the pieces don't slot into each other, they're just like... adjacent.

blindjoe posted:

Whats the controller for all this?

Leperflesh posted:

NNJAN99's door having all those vertical slats made of real wood basically guarantees that with moisture changes they're going to shift and separate, but the cracks will be way more visible because the pieces don't slot into each other, they're just like... adjacent.

vanity slug posted:

I'm really upset about the misaligned but identical tiles on the wall / floor.

TheMightyHandful posted:

Nobody can predict where the tiles will go

WhatEvil posted:

Nah it's likely that the panel will still be a panel, in that it'll be a separate piece of wood that'll sit into a rebate, i.e. the panel will slot into the stile - you shouldn't be able to ever see daylight through a door like that. I think it's partially that doors like that would more usually be internal and/or would be either oiled or unfinished. The parts would be oiled before the door was put together (or at least before the panel was put in - if it's a beaded/nailed panel rather than a built-in panel). If it's oiled before assembly and the panel swells/shrinks you won't notice it because the parts will just slide past each other. Often these days with painted finishes, the door is only painted after assembly, and that's when you see the cracking of the paint finish. It can also happen to some extent even if you do paint the components before assembly 'cause modern paints will sort of cause two contacting painted surfaces to stick together, and it can still look like poo poo if a panel and door parts move separately.

I've worked for a timber window/door manufacturer for ~18 years and it's basically just accepted that if you have a timber panel within a door you're gonna get some amount of differential movement between the pieces and have to do some refinishing. Also I was in charge of site visits for remedials for about 5 years so went out and saw tons of doors and windows etc. that had been installed anywhere from a few weeks to ~10 years (typically on the latter ones, our warrantees had run out but it was where the customer had e.g. bought some windows from us, then some years later also bought a conservatory).

Generally, from what I've seen, after a door has been installed and acclimatised to its surroundings for a while, they won't move much after that. Usually they settle down after going through their first winter>summer or summer>winter cycle.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I think I've exaggerated my door price. Like that thing where you are annoyed and every time you mention it you add 500 quid. So I think the pair, front and back door were 3.5 k for the pair. Completely reasonable.

But no warranty. Because I had them not deliver them fully put together.

Anyway heres my new heating plan. Its already wrong and incomplete but roughly accurate.

So heres normal operation



Heat pump is on, delivering heat to standard hot water tank, for provision of hot water to whatever taps. This is pressurised so probably gonna need a plumber to do it. Hot water delivered at mains pressure, as required by my shower/bath mixer units already installed.

Then house brain says OH NO, need heating in house (never happen cos of all my insulation and sellotaping up) so deliver heat to UFH instead



Also we might be in a situation where either hot water system says oh no I need hot water, or someone has already lit a fire in the woodburner. Here that system will take preference in supplying heat as its essentially free.



Or maybe not the hot water, the heating system. This is probably more likely? A winter situation.



Plus we have the reverse summer situation where its too hot in the house so we can run the heat pump in reverse and pump cold water round the underfloor "heating" to provide cooling.



The option I havent demonstrated here but which I do think is doable will be in situations like the below where my smart meter is telling me that actually the power grid is overloaded and wants to pay me to take energy!



See that overnight? Having that regardless of my needs. Now I can already pump that into hot water tank. But I fancy having the ability to steal that paid for energy overnight into my heat store so I can redeploy it into underfloor heating later on. issue is I need a pump and where to place it so it always works, might need a decoupler somewhere to prevent pumps loving each other over. Also not sure the perfect three way valves exist.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Plus we have the reverse summer situation where its too hot in the house so we can run the heat pump in reverse and pump cold water round the underfloor "heating" to provide cooling.



The option I havent demonstrated here but which I do think is doable will be in situations like the below where my smart meter is telling me that actually the power grid is overloaded and wants to pay me to take energy!