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Isn't the whole point of building your own house that you can do whatever wacky poo poo you want?
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Aug 20, 2023 15:09
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I think the reasons are: - house the way you want it - cheaper - challenge yourself or something idk I think you could argue 99 has achieved number 1, despite having to make a bunch of compromises with reality. Number 2 - lol Number 3 - well yeah he's ended up in hospital a few times. It's impressive and quixotic in equal measures, fair play tho I'm sure it'll be nice as hell when finished
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Aug 20, 2023 15:27
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Splode posted:Isn't the whole point of building your own house that you can do whatever wacky poo poo you want? You certainly can, but we live in a society, and certain approaches will either be sped along or fought against when you have to interact with that society, like when dealing with regulations, hiring trades, and buying materials. Something as simple as studwork external walls, something totally simple in many countries, would be a hassle here because the well trodden paths through regulations and routine construction expect brick or block. You can still do it but eventually it makes more sense to adjust your expectations unless you have an infinite budget. It’s fun to see that contrasted against ice cream tubs in the attic.
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Aug 20, 2023 15:28
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I enjoy the contrast between the massively overengineered foundation pilings and walls made of crumbly styrofoam instead of cement blocks
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Aug 20, 2023 16:06
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skybolt_1 posted:Agreed, like the whole mockery around the Ethernet cables... Multiple switches, unless you are dealing with high end managed enterprise hardware, introduce a whole new level of failure points and complexity. Ethernet cable is cheap, and it is cheapest when it's run before the walls are up. Its exactly how I would have done it if given the chance. I don't think anyone had an issue with running cables while walls and ceiling were exposed, that's absolutely the smart thing to do. It was everything that came after that like making a bespoke cable management wall plate which was completely unnecessary and definitely just made the job more difficult to complete.
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Aug 20, 2023 16:37
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99 read this: you're doing great man, we're all proud of you and the home you are buildng Everyone but 99 read this: Please can we all agree to not inform 99 that Wifi exists so this madness continues.
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Aug 20, 2023 17:06
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These sorts of things might be useful for bringing individual cables across your airtightness membrane? https://www.greenbuildingstore.co.uk/products/pro-clima-kaflex-cable-grommet/ We ran out, so quite a few of the cable penetrations are just sort of blobbed up with extoseal magov tape or orcon F sealant. Seems to work.
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Aug 20, 2023 18:43
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Problem is ratty (this is not for 99) that Wi-Fi is useful for phones and getting 5 bar coverage in every toilet is very important. The IoT poo poo he is doing is dumb though. For 99 What router you going with bro
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Aug 20, 2023 19:02
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Yeah WiFi is kinda garbage compared to hardwired connections between computers. The connection between my server and computer always seemed to get fucky on WiFi and when I wired it all of a sudden every issue seemed to disappear. Not even counting that WiFi would just poo poo itself every now and then,even a dedicated WiFi card seemed to throttle itself for reasons I didn't get. A good router is important for sure but doesn't compare to an actual wired network.
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Aug 20, 2023 19:38
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tbqh I would route the ethernet through my walls the same way, if you're using a desktop computer it's so worth it. I have a 150ft cable snaking along the baseboards of my house being ugly because it's worth it to me, but if I could have it in the walls I would. My real concern would be that eventually the standard would move on and I'd be stuck with a house that has a bunch of worthless outlets. The house I am in now has like ten unused phone jacks all over the damned place.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:19
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aniviron posted:ten unused phone jacks all over the damned place. (serious question though)
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Aug 20, 2023 20:30
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I don't know.if Ethernet will really go out of style, but who knows. It's held on for close to 30 years now though? And same, I have cables routed along the baseboards and around the doorway so I can hardwire stuff in. It's so worth it and I can't imagine not hardwiring things or putting lines in if I was building or having a house built. So worth it long term and especially for most goons who do computer stuff.
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Aug 20, 2023 20:30
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Ethernet doesn't go out of style because we keep inventing entirely new things and calling them Ethernet. edit: We do the same thing with WiFi, with the additional caveat that the exciting new versions of WiFi can't penetrate walls. pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Aug 20, 2023 |
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Aug 20, 2023 21:11
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pseudorandom name posted:Ethernet doesn't go out of style because we keep inventing entirely new things and calling them Ethernet. So I'm gonna need an access point in the bathroom so I can use my phone on the shitter?
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Aug 20, 2023 21:59
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You also have the option of making GBS threads with the door open and hoping the signal will bounce down the hallway
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Aug 20, 2023 22:11
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devicenull posted:So I'm gonna need an access point in the bathroom so I can use my phone on the shitter? You don’t need it in the bathroom just near it. Wi-Fi can go down quite well so ceiling mounted stuff is pretty decent. I have one that is equidistant between the en-suite and main bathroom and below it down a floor is the WC. Gets full bars or rather -51 dbc looking at it. If it wasn’t for my doorbell needing Wi-Fi I would get away with two in this house unfortunately because it’s a new build it needs an access point pretty close. At some point I will upgrade it to a PoE Ubiquiti one.
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Aug 20, 2023 22:42
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Sagacity posted:why not use them and rewire them for ethernet since apparently you love ethernet so much you want to MARRY it Few reasons. The biggest ones are time, effort, and expense; but also I live in a house that is more than a hundred years old and was constructed piecemeal by Polish amateurs and the interior of the house has not one but two ventilation systems, one of which is unused, as well as wiring that dates to the 20s - full copper jacketed in decaying paper, hooked to switches that still have mercury in them. All of this is spliced together with several other layers of upgrades and coverings, most of which is from the 40s-70s, none of which is consistent or documented, and I don't own the house. Given that, it feels like a fool's errand to undertake.
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Aug 20, 2023 23:56
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devicenull posted:So I'm gonna need an access point in the bathroom so I can use my phone on the shitter? The current solution is to support both 2.4 and 5 GHz, since 5 has more channels and higher bandwidth, but 2.4 goes through walls better. 6GHz is even faster/more channels/worse at walls, and LiFi even more so if it ever becomes widespread. I suspect 2.4 will be with us indefinitely as a fallback, just for the range and coverage benefits. Also, the real solution is to get a 5G nanocell in every bathroom, so your guests/victims don't need to use the WiFi.
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Aug 21, 2023 00:02
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Computer viking posted:The current solution is to support both 2.4 and 5 GHz, since 5 has more channels and higher bandwidth, but 2.4 goes through walls better. 6GHz is even faster/more channels/worse at walls, and LiFi even more so if it ever becomes widespread. Hell I still have stuff that's 2.4 only (sonos)
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Aug 21, 2023 00:05
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aniviron posted:Few reasons. The biggest ones are time, effort, and expense; but also I live in a house that is more than a hundred years old and was constructed piecemeal by Polish amateurs and the interior of the house has not one but two ventilation systems, one of which is unused, as well as wiring that dates to the 20s - full copper jacketed in decaying paper, hooked to switches that still have mercury in them. All of this is spliced together with several other layers of upgrades and coverings, most of which is from the 40s-70s, none of which is consistent or documented, and I don't own the house. Given that, it feels like a fool's errand to undertake. If your place is that old then the phone lines were likely fished through the wall cavities and probably aren't stapled to anything in there. There's a good chance you could use those lines to fish your Cat 6/7 in its place with minimal effort and get rid of whatever is stapled to baseboards.
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Aug 21, 2023 00:10
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if your houses arent to your liking for whatever reason, just build your own how you want imho, its quick and easy.
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Aug 21, 2023 00:15
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My tiny apartment has thick af plaster & lathe walls and I had to run a cable to my bedroom to get working Wi-Fi in there lmfao.
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Aug 21, 2023 00:20
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NotJustANumber99 posted:if your houses arent to your liking for whatever reason, just build your own how you want imho, its quick and easy. 
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Aug 21, 2023 00:39
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aniviron posted:the house has not one but two ventilation systems, one of which is unused Sounds like you've got a bunch of conduit to easily fish wiring through then.
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Aug 21, 2023 01:59
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I also would run ethernet to every room given the opportunity. One of the first things I did when I moved into my current place is getting them to run an ethernet connection from downstairs to upstairs. Getting good WiFi coverage ends up being more expensive than running ethernet, especially when you're fighting your neighbours for bandwidth.
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Aug 21, 2023 03:10
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I'd run conduit to every room from a central utility closet.
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Aug 21, 2023 03:15
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Put a utility closet in each room to run cables to other locations in the room.
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Aug 21, 2023 03:27
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withak posted:Put a utility closet in each room to run cables to other locations in the room. But under no circumstances are you to put a network switch in any utility closet.
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Aug 21, 2023 05:32
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Network switches belong in the server room.
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Aug 21, 2023 05:33
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pseudorandom name posted:You also have the option of making GBS threads with the door open and hoping the signal will bounce down the hallway You could also not use your phone while making GBS threads.
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Aug 21, 2023 07:20
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His Divine Shadow posted:You could also not use your phone while making GBS threads.
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Aug 21, 2023 07:35
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His Divine Shadow posted:You could also not use your phone while making GBS threads. no.
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Aug 21, 2023 07:52
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His Divine Shadow posted:You could also not use your phone while making GBS threads. What insane poo poo is this
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Aug 21, 2023 07:55
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His Divine Shadow posted:You could also not use your phone while making GBS threads. How am I supposed to search "how much blood in diarrhoea normal"
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Aug 21, 2023 08:24
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I only post while making GBS threads. Yes
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Aug 21, 2023 08:32
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aniviron posted:Few reasons. The biggest ones are time, effort, and expense; but also I live in a house that is more than a hundred years old and was constructed piecemeal by Polish amateurs and the interior of the house has not one but two ventilation systems, one of which is unused, as well as wiring that dates to the 20s - full copper jacketed in decaying paper, hooked to switches that still have mercury in them. All of this is spliced together with several other layers of upgrades and coverings, most of which is from the 40s-70s, none of which is consistent or documented, and I don't own the house. Given that, it feels like a fool's errand to undertake. So you bought 99’s parents place?
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Aug 21, 2023 10:19
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Splode posted:Isn't the whole point of building your own house that you can do whatever wacky poo poo you want? Not when you live too close to other people.
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Aug 29, 2023 10:23
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yo dudes. Sorry for lack of updates, I've been on my holidays. for three days. to me mum's Anyway it's very nearly plastering time. Am I ready? No its only been a few years off course I'm now rushing like poo poo at the last minute to not embarrass myself infront of actual house building people. Plasterer has sent through what he says we need in terms of materials so ordered all that. First batch arrives  manage to stick it in the garage car port/hole   Seperate from that and not really the most optimum use of my present time given immanent plasterage I carry on with the old ice cream tub setup  Second pallet of plaster arrives, lol had to be done in two orders because wickes is barely a functioning company  Didn't want to risk shoving the pallet on my dodgy garage floor so manually unload the second pallet to behind the first pallet so the first ones still wrapped and a bit weather tight. I can already envisage asking the plasterers to start with the behind pallet only to be ignored and really wind myself up. Maybe it wont happen and only a silly a little nothing thing but of course it will happen.  Little jobs like this boxing in are fine  But theres suddenely a lot of jobs left undone that need doing before I've got rooms ready for the plasterers Like I've never actually properly attached any of the socket back boxes cos didn't know for sure what to do. So just gotta nut up and do that. Some certainty comes from the plasterers seeming fine with it all.  Except my poo poo blocks makes this a few pass affair in that I need to predrill, pullout, rawl plug then reoffer and screw them all in. cheers my poo poo blocks.  then tidy up the cables/wires such that they don't get cross  Gotta finish putting in the led profiles, which requires a bunch of special wiring runs, with homemade connections poked through  Lol somehow I don't have a good picture of this despite taking a bajillion pictures. Anyway  Oh and I've decided to airtight tape the walls to the floor as well as I can't see how that isn't also necessary for completeness.  But I've run out of tape And theres dogshit screeding like this to deal with   Time is now getting tight as the plasterers have said start midweek... which is like tomorrow, although admittedly it isnt quite today yet where we are, yet. but still... gently caress Plus I'm in a bit of pain and not sleeping well from my massive big fat red englishman sunburn lol  So lol then text with plasterer and we need door linings in first? before they can plaster? wtf lol? actually maybe someone said this oh dear why did I go on holiday? Its now bank holiday and can't get door linings until tuesday. After which I'm sure my skills will be more than equal to quickly and easily installing them all in a day. oblong story squared, get the door linings  I am going for nice big wide 2foot 9 inch ones to meet part m building regs but I did not think about door height as I didn't think I had to. The builders put in normal door apertures they assured me and I've read all the forums and watched robin clevett (foreshadowingly tiny) and they all recommend going with standard British door sizes so all the options remain on the table and you don't end up with expensive custom jobs.   So all the videos you watch the off the shelf door linings fit nice and snuggly into houses. Not mine. Big old 5 inch gap at the top and probably an inch to the side. hmmm Turns out standard british doors are based off old timey hobbitses still.  I guess this is better than the apertures being far to small. So I need to fit these 130mm wide door linings with 15mm proud either side of the walls to accommodate the plaster and sub plaster layer they will smoosh allover the poo poo block walls. This will all finish flush them I whack on more bits of wood to hide how poo poo all that was. Not my plan, how its done. So I make some spacers and wedges and stuff  Its a finessing job of pushing and pulling, knocking and nudging to get the lining plumb, level and square.  And of course it wont. So I throw away that level  And suddenly it works. rip wilkos  Finally get it somewhat ok and whack in a bunch of big concrete screws. Pull them out a few times and wiggle everything whilst cursing the concept on living all the while. Googled wtf to do to fill the big gaps and did a bit of all of it    Do a second lining too now I'm so good at it. O h yeah and prime/seal them too as apparently otherwise they'll soak up all the moisture of the plasdter and bend all over the shop and be totally worthless and need replacing amazing ok thx  Lol also got other delivery of the under plaster parge coat stuff. Three pallets. My mum had rung my brother because she thought I might top myself so he came down to help out then we fell out and could only communicate via his 4 year old son. Who also, helpfully, happened to speak truck delivery driver, as n one else seemed able to talk to the nutcase.   Rain tonight so best to offer up pallets to bifold doors and handball it all off to various helpful locations for the plasterers.   Anyway last thing today plasterer texts back to say they won't come till next week now.
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Aug 29, 2023 22:21
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"L" mao
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Lol. Not sure what sunburned part of your body you're displaying there, hope it's not a macro shot of your bellend
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